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On Jun 16, 2:27 am, Tomás Ó hÉilidhe <t...@lavabit.c omwrote:
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I've always hastened to use the cliché term "There's nothing worse
than X", but in this case they're the only words that come to me:
There's nothing worse than a people without pride. There's plenty of
immigrants in the town where I live. There's Eastern Europeans.
There's black Africans. While I'm not overjoyed with immigrants taking
natives' jobs and accommodation, I don't bear any real animosity or
hatred towards them.
Do not bear any 'real' animosity or hatred? Nice to know that.
Feeling a bit xenophobic Tom? The undertones would indicate that.
Someone really should teach you about connotations and denotations.
It's nice you do not bear malice to these people that people come in
to take jobs locals do not want. Or cannot do. Or do not want to do
because it's a family tradition, ie the family tradition of a lot of
people who live in say, Ballymun or someplace like that (4-5th gen
unemployed), living off my tax euro.
Or they go off to university, to then post on c.l.c. and hence do not
want to build the houses, man the petrol stations, work in fast food
joints etc
Someone's got to do it. Just be glad there is.
Ireland's in the EU now. The EU is multicultural and multiracial.
Tough, but you'll get used to it as others have.
Some of them are really nice people, and they're
just here to make a better life for themselves. In fact, their
ambition in life is something a lot of people could aspire to. The
black Africans in particular tend to be extremely pleasant friendly
people; I can smile and say hello to a complete stranger black
African, and he'll say hello back with a warm smile. If I were to do
that to any other stranger, the person would look at me like I'm a
weirdo.
QFT. This is true.
But then there's one immigrant people here that I truly despise: Roma
gypsies. These people have no pride whatsoever. They really are rats.
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Now up until that point, I'd never been a fan of Roma gypsies, but at
the same time I'd no real animosity or hatred for them. Now though, I
don't even see them as people. There are friends of mine who work in
shops that have had far more experience with Roma gypsies than I have,
but I've never really understood the venomous hatred my friends have
had for them. But now, I understand.
In my experience what you've described is indeed true, but I always
say
these are the selected lot that have come over here to abuse the
system.
I have to say this, as xenophobic as Tom may seem, what he describes
even
I cannot deny as being ludicrous or far from the truth.
Treating them as people to avoid like hell on the street (Just as you
would
any other rough looking type or tramp), is one thing. You can tell
they
are trouble, and you will want to stay clear.
NOT seeing them as even people however is _totally_ different.
I wonder what Tom would say about our local 'gypsies' the tinkers.
They are just as nasty. I have had experiences (really bad ones) with
both camps.
And just like their romany like, a bloody big drain on my tax euro.
What would you say of these people Tom? They are 'Irish' after all.
But I digress, there's nothing worse than a people without pride.
I'm Irish, and I'm from Ireland. The vast majority of people in my
country have English names, you'll see "Stephen McAteer" instead
of "Stiofán Mac an tSaoir".
That's real funny, I would have thought Stephen McAteer would have
been
clearly an Irish name.
Tell me, were you born with your gailge spelling or did you just
change
your name?
Now if they feel comfortable with that, then that's fine.
That's very generous.
A lot of these people would have the names they were born with
I am.
In all likelihood you probably were as well. I am guessing. I
could be wrong, you may have been so unhappy you changed your
name. Fair enuf.
But personally I don't feel comfortable as an Irish person with
an English name.
I'm Irish, I speak Irish and I've an Irish name.
Suits me much better.
I am Irish, I do not speak Irish. I am patriotic enough that I do
want what's best for Ireland on the whole. Good job on the Lisbon
treaty.
But my xenophobia only extends so far.
I welcome a multicultural Ireland, not grudgingly accept it, as
one may construe from your post.
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