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From reading gotw#84 (http://www.gotw.ca/gotw/084.htm), I'm convinced that
I should try to make functions nonfriend nonmembers when practical, but
then I came across this:

Bruce Eckel says about operator overloads in Thinking In C++ (2nd Ed -
http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/tic/tic0129.shtml)
"In general, if it doesn't make any difference, they should be members, to
emphasize the association between the operator and its class."

That seems like a valid point, but probably not as convincing as the ones
Sutter gives. For example, a nonmember nonfriend might be generic enough
to be usable outside of the class; no reason to unnecessarily hide the
logic inside the class.

Does Eckel's argument ever outweigh Sutter's?
-Erik

Jul 19 '05
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jeffc wrote:
"Alf P. Steinbach" <al***@start.no > wrote in message
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Does Eckel's argument ever outweigh Sutter's?


I do hope someone authoritative will clarify once and for all whether
two, three, four or eight character positions is best for
indentation, and also which indentation style to follow. In this
regard, should I heed the advice of Bjarne, Herb or Bruce? It's
frustrating not to have clear leadership in this important matter.


What on earth are you talking about? Is this some kind of weird
troll?


I think he is trying to say that what the OP asked is a similar kind of
political debate, i.e. there's not one answer, and you can simply use your
personal preference.

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Freek de Jonge
Jul 19 '05 #11
"jeffc" <no****@nowhere .com> wrote in message
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[...]
If the function is virtual, of course it must be a member. If
the function is the << or >> operator, make it non-member.
If the function needs type conversion on its left most
argument, make it non-member (note this is common in
operators). Everything else should be a member function.
Ok, so I was thinking of Andrei's "intepretat ion" of Meyers'
rule, which is: "Make everything a free function". ;)
[...]
You're using operators as an example. The vast majority of
OO functions written are non-operator. The OP didn't ask
anything about operators specifically, just functions.


That's ambiguous. He first asked about functions, and then
mentioned what Eckel's had to say about *operators*. So
I assumed he was talking primarily about operators. In
which case, I think Meyers mostly agrees with my summary
(since most binary operators, for instance, benefit from
implicit conversion, and most of the operators that you want
to be members couldn't be free anyway).

Dave

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Jul 19 '05 #12

"David B. Held" <dh***@codelogi cconsulting.com > wrote in message
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You're using operators as an example. The vast majority of
OO functions written are non-operator. The OP didn't ask
anything about operators specifically, just functions.


That's ambiguous. He first asked about functions, and then
mentioned what Eckel's had to say about *operators*. So
I assumed he was talking primarily about operators. In
which case, I think Meyers mostly agrees with my summary
(since most binary operators, for instance, benefit from
implicit conversion, and most of the operators that you want
to be members couldn't be free anyway).


Yes, I suppose.
Jul 19 '05 #13

"lilburne" <li******@godzi lla.net> wrote in message
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jeffc wrote:
"Alf P. Steinbach" <al***@start.no > wrote in message
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Does Eckel's argument ever outweigh Sutter's?

I do hope someone authoritative will clarify once and for all whether
two, three, four or eight character positions is best for indentation, andalso which indentation style to follow. In this regard, should I heed theadvice of Bjarne, Herb or Bruce? It's frustrating not to have clear
leadership in this important matter.


What on earth are you talking about? Is this some kind of weird troll?


Well I thought it amusing.


Ah, in that case I guess it's pretty funny too.
Jul 19 '05 #14

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