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Signed int -0 ?

A signed int reserves one bit to signify whether a number is positive or
negative. In light of this, a colleague asked me whether there existed an
int in C++ that was -0, a zero with the negative bit set. I was intrigued
by this, so I tried the following code:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int, char**) {
int a(-0);
printf("a=%d\n" , a);
if ( a==0 ) printf("a==0\n" );
if ( a==-0 ) printf("a==-0\n");
return 0;
}

The output is:

a=0
a==0
a==-0

So it seems that no such number can be used in C++, and speaking of
mathematical numbers, it makes perfect sense, but what is actually going on
"behing the curtains" in C++ since the compiled code can't discern between
+0 and -0 ?

--
Christian Stigen Larsen -- http://sublevel3.org/~csl/
Jul 19 '05
20 7561

"Alexander Terekhov" <te******@web.d e> wrote in message news:3F******** *******@web.de. ..

Ron Natalie wrote:
[...]
Got me. I've never understood why they were suddenly enumerated
in C99. To my knowledge I've never worked on a signed-mag machine
and I haven't been near a 1's complement machine in over a decade.


How about offset binary (aka "Excess-K"), various BCD schemes, uhmm,
and "gray code"? ;-)

These aren't legal in C++ because they don't share the postitve number
representation with the unsigned.
Jul 19 '05 #21

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