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Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.

Feb 4 '07 #1
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"pavan" <pa********@gma il.comwrote i
Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.
C++.
Feb 4 '07 #2
"pavan" <pa********@gma il.comwrote in message
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Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
garbage collected systems language? I would avoid that crap like the plague!
Feb 4 '07 #3
"pavan" <pa********@gma il.comwrites:
Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.
I think you're asking in exactly the wrong place; things other than C
are exactly what we don't discuss here.

Try comp.programmin g.

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Feb 4 '07 #4
Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.

I think you're asking in exactly the wrong place; things other than C
are exactly what we don't discuss here.

Try comp.programmin g.

good advice Keith :-)

Feb 5 '07 #5
"pavan" <pa********@gma il.comwrote in message
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Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.
There is no alternative. C and assembly-language is the rule.

Garbage collected? Why?

I just laugh at the constant string of posters that blast C for this and
that, including lack of automatic memory allocation and/or garbage
collection and/or array bounds checking.

Ritchie got it right. And still, 30+ years after the fact, they are too
daft to recognize what and why.

Unix--the operating system of the future--as it has been for 30 years now.

C--the langauge of the future--as it has been for 30 years now.

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Feb 5 '07 #6

pavan wrote:
Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.
Try Ada.

Feb 5 '07 #7
David T. Ashley wrote:
"pavan" <pa********@gma il.comwrote in message
news:11******** *************@h 3g2000cwc.googl egroups.com...
>>Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.


There is no alternative. C and assembly-language is the rule.
Untrue, C++ does just as good a job.

--
Ian Collins.
Feb 5 '07 #8
"pavan" <pa********@gma il.comwrote:
Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.
No. Your demands are mutually exclusive.

Richard
Feb 5 '07 #9
pavan a écrit :
Is there a modern (OO, garbage collected etc...) programming language
that can server as a good alternative for C for system programming. I
wouldn't want to compromise too much on performance.
Use a Visual Basic interpreter written in C#

Intel and AMD will be of great help to you. They will be
happy to provide a 100 processor parallel machine to
be able to boot the OS!!!

More seriously:

1) C can use a garbage collector without any trouble. See
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

2) An OPERATING SYSTEM can't use a garbage collector. The
delay provoked by a full GC within the OS would be
quite a show stopper. In the first versions of linux
even malloc was forbidden.

3) Many operating systems have been written in C. "OO"
operating systems have been proposed, and even some have been
implemented like the famous TALIGENT failure, or more recently the
deceased BEOS. C++ is not a good choice for an OS, and
linux has recently resisted any change in that direction.
Feb 5 '07 #10

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