New to C language - HELP Required

[sri]

Hi
I am new to C language. Still I am using Turbo C++ 3 Compiler. Any
New version is available for Windows XP platforms. Borland releases C++
5.5 Command line tools.

Is There any New C Compiler software is available.....

Thanks for the maintaining the C- Gorup.

[Phlip]

sri wrote:

Is There any New C Compiler software is available.....

Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc. You will get a
high-end compiler with minimal hassle. Oh, also a minimal editor and an evil
debugger. And note that much of learning C means learning how to work its
environment, linkers, makefiles, etc.

Further questions about specific compilers will get the best answers on
their specific newsgroups. This group is only qualified to discuss
platform-neutral aspects of the language itself, not its various libraries
and tools.

--
Phlip
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeekLand <-- NOT a blog!!!

[Nick Keighley]

Phlip wrote:

sri wrote:

Is There any New C Compiler software is available.....

Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc. You will get a
high-end compiler with minimal hassle. Oh, also a minimal editor and an evil
debugger. And note that much of learning C means learning how to work its
environment, linkers, makefiles, etc.

sounds like a hard way to do things. "I want C compiler for Windows XP"
"ok
go and run an emulation to make XP look like Unix, then learn an arcane
shell
scripting language, then get a C compiler".

try bloodshed www.bloodshed.net it is also gcc based, has a reasonable
IDE
and editor but a rather ropey debugger :-(

There may be better options, I just thought that Phlip had turned the
learning
curve into a cliff so I was pointing out there was at least one other
option.

Further questions about specific compilers will get the best answers on
their specific newsgroups. This group is only qualified to discuss
platform-neutral aspects of the language itself, not its various libraries
and tools.

yeah, true
--
Nick Keighley

Scheme: Because it *is* the red pill...
Anton van Straaten (comp.lang.sche me)

[jmcgill]

Nick Keighley wrote:

Phlip wrote:

>sri wrote:

>>Is There any New C Compiler software is available.....

Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc. You will get a
high-end compiler with minimal hassle. Oh, also a minimal editor and an evil
debugger. And note that much of learning C means learning how to work its
environment, linkers, makefiles, etc.

sounds like a hard way to do things.

I would argue that it makes a great many things very easy.

Someone who is biased to the point of being resistant to the idea of
these particular tools will not be persuaded to use them, and that won't
be my problem unless they are working for me (in a shop where the cygwin
environment is required.)

[Christopher Benson-Manica]

Phlip <ph******@yahoo .comwrote:

Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc. You will get a
high-end compiler with minimal hassle. Oh, also a minimal editor and an evil
debugger. And note that much of learning C means learning how to work its
environment, linkers, makefiles, etc.

Cygwin is a huge investment for someone just trying to run a C program
or two. Surely lcc-win32 is a better option for OP than having to
learn Bash just to run the compiler.

--
C. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
cbmanica(at)gma il.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome.

[Skarmander]

Phlip wrote:

sri wrote:

>Is There any New C Compiler software is available.....

Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc.

If it's gcc for Windows you want, MinGW is much less heavy. Cygwin's main
perk is the ability to easily port Unix/POSIX software to Windows. MinGW is
less suitable for that task, but it doesn't require you to completely
Unixify your system. (Not that that's necessarily a bad thing.)

Alternatively, Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Express includes a C++ and C
compiler with a nice visual development environment to work in, and is
arguably the least amount of hassle for those used to Windows GUIs.
(Obligatory flaming of the Evil Empire to /dev/null, please.) I must confess
I don't know how good the C compiler is, though, and I do know you need to
put in a bit of effort to ignore all the stuff you won't want to use (C++
and the CLR extensions).

S.

[jmcgill]

Christopher Benson-Manica wrote:

Phlip <ph******@yahoo .comwrote:

>Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc. You will get a
high-end compiler with minimal hassle. Oh, also a minimal editor and an evil
debugger. And note that much of learning C means learning how to work its
environment, linkers, makefiles, etc.

Cygwin is a huge investment for someone just trying to run a C program
or two.

Getting a car is a huge investment for someone who just wants to drive
to work and back once a day and maybe one or two shopping trips per week.

Surely lcc-win32 is a better option for OP than having to
learn Bash just to run the compiler.

Maybe. Or maybe learning a POSIX compliant shell and a version of GCC
will be a more beneficial undertaking in the long run than some random
single-developer compiler project that you happen know about.

[Christopher Benson-Manica]

jmcgill <jm*****@email. arizona.eduwrot e:

Maybe. Or maybe learning a POSIX compliant shell and a version of GCC
will be a more beneficial undertaking in the long run than some random
single-developer compiler project that you happen know about.

Maybe, or maybe OP has no reason to ever care about knowing Bash. In
many places developers go weeks without seeing a Bash prompt.
Depending on OP's experience and goals, Cygwin may very well turn out
to be a gigantic waste of time. At least you might have mentioned the
MinGW port of GCC, which can let OP use a quality compiler without
simultaneously plunging into a Unix emulator.

--
C. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
cbmanica(at)gma il.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome.

[Keith Thompson]

jmcgill <jm*****@email. arizona.eduwrit es:

Christopher Benson-Manica wrote:

>Phlip <ph******@yahoo .comwrote:

>>Get CygWin (then read a BASH tutorial), then use gcc. You will get
a high-end compiler with minimal hassle. Oh, also a minimal editor
and an evil debugger. And note that much of learning C means
learning how to work its environment, linkers, makefiles, etc.

Cygwin is a huge investment for someone just trying to run a C
program
or two.

Getting a car is a huge investment for someone who just wants to drive
to work and back once a day and maybe one or two shopping trips per
week.

>Surely lcc-win32 is a better option for OP than having to
learn Bash just to run the compiler.

Maybe. Or maybe learning a POSIX compliant shell and a version of GCC
will be a more beneficial undertaking in the long run than some random
single-developer compiler project that you happen know about.

I like Cygwin; in fact I'm using it right now. But telling someone to
install Cygwin is not a particularly good answer for someone who just
wants to compile C programs under Windows XP, particularly when there
are a number of compilers that work directly under XP with no
emulation layer.

This is not the place to advocate Unix or Unix-like environments.

Cygwin with gcc is certainly an option. But since the OP's question
is about obtaining compilers, not about the C language, he'd probably
get better information in a Windows-specific newsgroup.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keit h) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.

[jmcgill]

Keith Thompson wrote:

I like Cygwin; in fact I'm using it right now. But telling someone to
install Cygwin is not a particularly good answer for someone who just
wants to compile C programs under Windows XP

Well, you can lead a horse to water...