Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex
arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include
any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header
file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about
177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one
at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and
(more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for
any URLs.
--
Julian V. Noble
Professor Emeritus of Physics
University of Virginia 17 3731
On 2006-07-09, Julian V. Noble <jv*@virginia.e duwrote:
Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex
arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include
any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header
file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about
177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one
at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and
(more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for
any URLs.
You could try googling "C Standard Draft" to get a copy of the
latest draft (because it's free), or you could actually buy a
copy of C99. That'll give you all you need, although it will
likely be interspersed with a /lot/ of stuff you don't need.
--
Andrew Poelstra <http://www.wpsoftware. net/projects/>
To email me, use "apoelstra" at the above domain.
"You people hate mathematics." -- James Harris
"Julian V. Noble" <jv*@virginia.e duwrites:
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and
(more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for
any URLs.
Buy a copy of C99 as a PDF. It is $30 from webstore.ansi.o rg.
--
"To get the best out of this book, I strongly recommend that you read it."
--Richard Heathfield
"Julian V. Noble" <jv*@virginia.e duwrote
Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex
arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include
any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header
file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about
177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one
at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and
(more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for
any URLs.
Get real.
What do you expect complex.h and the library to contain?
--
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$1.25 download or $7.20 paper, available www.lulu.com/bgy1mm
"Julian V. Noble" <jv*@virginia.e duwrote in message
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Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex
arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include
any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header
file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about
177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one
at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and
(more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for
any URLs.
http://www.dinkumware.com/manuals/?m...=complex2.html
P.J. Plauger
Dinkumware, Ltd. http://www.dinkumware.com
Julian V. Noble wrote:
Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex
arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include
any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header
file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about
177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one
at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and
(more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for
any URLs.
There's no such thing as a standard listing for any standard header. For one
thing, headers are not even required to be text files, they could be
integrated into the compiler.
Instead, the standard describes headers in terms of what they must provide
and what effect including them has on the program. In my copy of the draft
standard (N1124, google for it) <complex.his described in section 7.3.
You could try to use the <complex.hfro m a compiler that supports C99 and
strip out all the compiler-specific bits, but I don't know of a C99
compliant <complex.himple mentation. GCC for one does not qualify.
Personally I'd read section 7.3 of the standard and summarize that. It's
likely that not all bits will be relevant.
S.
Malcolm wrote:
"Julian V. Noble" <jv*@virginia.e duwrote
>Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about 177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
>>10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and (more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for any URLs.
Get real.
^^^^^^^^
Love the manners on this group!
What do you expect complex.h and the library to contain?
Well, for one I would like to see how cabs and clog are implemented.
I have already found a <complex.hwhe re cabs is done naively as
cabs(z=x+iy) = sqrt(x*x+y*y)
and this is liable to overflow when, say, x is bigger in magnitude
than the square root of the largest representable double. Not too
smart. Goldberg describes how to do it correctly and I can't imagine
why someone making a library would not follow that method.
The complex log and related functions have implicit decisions about
where the branch line is located. For example, in the version I found
(which I do not know is a Standard version--if there is one!) the
imaginary part of the log is given as atan2(x,y). This is defined
with a range -\pi to +\pi so that the branch line for the complex log
is the negative real axis, x = 0 to -\infty. This is a perfectly
acceptable choice, but not the only possible one. If a programmer
is expecting the range to be 0 to 2\pi he will have a hard-to-find
bug.
So what I was hoping to find was enough information that I could
supply caveats in my article without raising the hackles of the C
community.
--
Julian V. Noble
Professor Emeritus of Physics
University of Virginia
Ben Pfaff wrote:
"Julian V. Noble" <jv*@virginia.e duwrites:
>Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and (more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for any URLs.
Buy a copy of C99 as a PDF. It is $30 from webstore.ansi.o rg.
Thanks, but this is a one-shot, I will never have another use
for it, and no one is going to reimburse me.
--
Julian V. Noble
Professor Emeritus of Physics
University of Virginia
In article <e8**********@m urdoch.acc.Virg inia.EDU>,
Julian V. Noble <jv*@virginia.e duwrote:
>Well, for one I would like to see how cabs and clog are implemented.
I have already found a <complex.hwhe re cabs is done naively as
cabs(z=x+iy) = sqrt(x*x+y*y)
Section 7.3.4 of the C99 Standard addresses exactly this issue.
It implies, and I paraphrase, that the implementation may have
its own clever way of computing cabs, however you can tell it
to use the formula the you have cited using a preprocessor
switch as in:
#include <complex.h>
#pragma STDC CX_LIMITED_RANG E on_or_off_switc h
The default value of the switch is off. Chances are that
the formula that you found in complex.h is guarded by a
conditional test of CX_LIMITED_RANG E.
>The complex log and related functions have implicit decisions about where the branch line is located.
The C99 Standard is explicit about the location of branch cuts.
For instance for clog it says the branch cut is along the
negative real axis. An implementation which puts the cut anywhere
else is not standard-compliant.
For further details, see the C99 Standard. You may find a printed
copy in your library. See: http://tinyurl.com/ns9o5
--
Rouben Rostamian
Andrew Poelstra wrote:
On 2006-07-09, Julian V. Noble <jv*@virginia.e duwrote:
>Dear C Mavens,
I am writing a Computing Prescription for CiSE on complex arithmetic. I would like to be sure that I do not include any gaffes about C99--especially about what is in the header file <complex.h. I have Googled <complex.hand got about 177K hits, which I obviously do not wish to go through one at a time. I also tried "<complex.hsour ce" but still got
>>10K hits.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete, definitive and (more-or-less) standard listing of <complex.h? Thanks for any URLs.
You could try googling "C Standard Draft" to get a copy of the
latest draft (because it's free), or you could actually buy a
copy of C99. That'll give you all you need, although it will
likely be interspersed with a /lot/ of stuff you don't need.
Thanks a lot. This was very helpful. Actually I Googled C99 Standard
Draft and got WG14N1124, a draft of 2005-05-06. It is evidently
aware of the problems of overflow and branch cut location that I
cite elsewhere in this thread. Sadly, the implementer(s) of the
versions of <complex.htha t I have seen so far have not seemed
to keep the Standard's advice in mind.
--
Julian V. Noble
Professor Emeritus of Physics
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