emacs, linux and C

[Richard G. Riley]

I am looking for a way to integrate the C library documentation into
emacs' C mode. Adding any linux library documentation would be a
bonus.

e.g hilite word, hotkey to library documentation.

thanks for any help.

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[Nick Keighley]

Richard G. Riley wrote:

On 2006-02-22, Vladimir S. Oka <no****@btopenw orld.com> wrote:

Richard G. Riley wrote:
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[...] Why would a C programmer who uses emacs "hang out" in
an emacs newsgroup? he doesnt "do emacs" for a living. he almost
certainly "does C".

I struggle with your logic. If he does C for a living using Emacs, then
surely his livelyhood also depends on the latter?

I hope to hell you are not a professional programmer with reasoning
like this. Tell me, do you "hang out" in a newsgroup dedicated to your
newsreader? No? Thought not.

I've been on news groups for my IDE, my editor and my platform.
Jolly helpful they were too.
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[Richard G. Riley]

On 2006-02-22, CBFalconer <cb********@yah oo.com> wrote:

"Richard G. Riley" wrote:

... snip ...

Now lets make it more complicated : where is a C programmer who
uses emacs as his editor more likely to be?

com*.emacs?
com*.c?

Hmmm.

Hence I asked here.

And that, for me, is the end of this ridiculous discussion

And you were told some time ago that your conclusion was in error,
and that com*.emacs would be a better possibility. Instead of
accepting the advice and going somewhere that your basic wants
might be satisfied, you remained here arguing and generally making
life unpleasant for us all, not to mention consuming bandwidth. In
the process you have exposed you own rude boorishness, and
persuaded many of us to ignore you. If you have some topical
question in the future this will affect the response you get.
PLONK

Interestingly enough a C programmer who reads here DID send me the
solution. And the fact that you resort to a killfile because I stand
up to self important blowhards like yourself is indicative more of
your character than it is of mine. And i can assure you that your help
would not be particuarly welcome regardless.
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[Richard G. Riley]

On 2006-02-22, Nick Keighley <ni************ ******@hotmail. com> wrote:

Richard G. Riley wrote:

On 2006-02-22, Vladimir S. Oka <no****@btopenw orld.com> wrote:

> Richard G. Riley wrote:
<snip>
>> [...] Why would a C programmer who uses emacs "hang out" in
>> an emacs newsgroup? he doesnt "do emacs" for a living. he almost
>> certainly "does C".
>
> I struggle with your logic. If he does C for a living using Emacs, then
> surely his livelyhood also depends on the latter?
I hope to hell you are not a professional programmer with reasoning
like this. Tell me, do you "hang out" in a newsgroup dedicated to your
newsreader? No? Thought not.

I've been on news groups for my IDE, my editor and my platform.
Jolly helpful they were too.

Yes. They can be. No question. But that really isnt the point is it?
The emacs group did not have an answer. This group did.
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[August Karlstrom]

Richard G. Riley wrote:

I had a requirement to access C language APIS/Stdrefs from within a
programmers editor.

I was unable to find info elsewhere.

This group is dedicated to C.

It is not a leap of faith to assume that the people who contribute
here use editors.

From this we may deduce that maybe some of these C programmers use
emacs.

From here we obtain that amazing conclusion that possibly C
programmers who post here know how to bring up context C help from
within emacs.

Still with me?

Now lets make it more complicated : where is a C programmer who uses
emacs as his editor more likely to be?

com*.emacs?
com*.c?

Hmmm.

Hence I asked here.

And that, for me, is the end of this ridiculous discussion

You don't seem to understand that your question is only marginally
related to C. If we generalize it just a bit it goes: "How do I
integrate library documentation for libraries written in the programming
language X with Emacs." This is obviously an Emacs/Emacs Lisp question.
August

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[Richard G. Riley]

On 2006-02-22, August Karlstrom <fu********@com hem.se> wrote:

Richard G. Riley wrote:

I had a requirement to access C language APIS/Stdrefs from within a
programmers editor.

I was unable to find info elsewhere.

This group is dedicated to C.

It is not a leap of faith to assume that the people who contribute
here use editors.

From this we may deduce that maybe some of these C programmers use
emacs.

From here we obtain that amazing conclusion that possibly C
programmers who post here know how to bring up context C help from
within emacs.

Still with me?

Now lets make it more complicated : where is a C programmer who uses
emacs as his editor more likely to be?

com*.emacs?
com*.c?

Hmmm.

Hence I asked here.

And that, for me, is the end of this ridiculous discussion

You don't seem to understand that your question is only marginally
related to C. If we generalize it just a bit it goes: "How do I
integrate library documentation for libraries written in the programming
language X with Emacs." This is obviously an Emacs/Emacs Lisp question.
August

I do understand how related to C it is : it is related to C
programmers who inhabit this NG.

I got my solution here from a private email so it wasnt so stupid for
me to come here after all.

As for your example : I would expect to find the solution either in
emacs or (more likely) X newsgroup where X programmers/gurus hang out
and may well just use emacs to support their day to day existence.
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[August Karlstrom]

Richard G. Riley wrote:

I do understand how related to C it is : it is related to C
programmers who inhabit this NG.

I got my solution here from a private email so it wasnt so stupid for
me to come here after all.

As for your example : I would expect to find the solution either in
emacs or (more likely) X newsgroup where X programmers/gurus hang out
and may well just use emacs to support their day to day existence.

I reckon many of the people at gnu.emacs.help are C programmers. After
all, C is one of, if not the, most widespread language.
August

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[Mark McIntyre]

On 20 Feb 2006 09:29:54 GMT, in comp.lang.c , "Richard G. Riley"
<rg***********@ gmail.com> wrote:

Without wanting to continue this too long, why would it be incorrect
to ask seasoned programmers such a question?
Because the topic of the group is the C /language/, not how to use it
on a specific platform, or how to use a specific toolset.
Programmers who,
presumably, use some sort of IDE/Editor combo to support the C
language development.

Presumption erroneous. When programming on Solaris or Linux, I mostly
use vi, compile from the commandline and debug with printf.
Mark McIntyre
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[Mark McIntyre]

On 22 Feb 2006 15:12:00 GMT, in comp.lang.c , "Richard G. Riley"
<rg***********@ gmail.com> wrote:

On 2006-02-22, Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote:

Obviously, if they are sufficiently interested in both, they will hang
out in both.
Are you joking? Why would a C programmer who uses emacs "hang out" in
an emacs newsgroup?

Presumably the words "sufficient ly interested" are unknown to you.
I dont know. Maybe I've gone mad or something but I completely fail to
see the problem.
Thats apparent. Perhaps you need to lurk a bit longer.
And the more "reasons" I get for why I shouldnt have
asked this perfectly innocous c related question

Its not a bloody C related question, its an emacs question.

Mark McIntyre
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[Mark McIntyre]

On 22 Feb 2006 15:25:10 GMT, in comp.lang.c , "Richard G. Riley"
<rg***********@ gmail.com> wrote:

On 2006-02-22, Vladimir S. Oka <no****@btopenw orld.com> wrote:

I struggle with your logic. If he does C for a living using Emacs, then
surely his livelyhood also depends on the latter?

I hope to hell you are not a professional programmer with reasoning
like this. Tell me, do you "hang out" in a newsgroup dedicated to your
newsreader? No? Thought not.

You may want to read up on the meaning of the word "logic", since your
last statement has none.

If I posted to usenet as my livelihood, you can be sure I'd keep an
eye on the newsgroups relating to my tools.

If I used emacs day in and day out and depended on it professionally,
I'd keep an eye on relevant groups. Much as I do in fact monitor C,
linux, solaris, windows, gcc, etc through various media, as well as
banking, general computing and hardware issues.
Mark McIntyre
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[Al Balmer]

On 22 Feb 2006 08:49:14 -0800, "Nick Keighley"
<ni************ ******@hotmail. com> wrote:

Richard G. Riley wrote:

On 2006-02-22, Vladimir S. Oka <no****@btopenw orld.com> wrote:

> Richard G. Riley wrote:
<snip>
>> [...] Why would a C programmer who uses emacs "hang out" in
>> an emacs newsgroup? he doesnt "do emacs" for a living. he almost
>> certainly "does C".
>
> I struggle with your logic. If he does C for a living using Emacs, then
> surely his livelyhood also depends on the latter?
I hope to hell you are not a professional programmer with reasoning
like this. Tell me, do you "hang out" in a newsgroup dedicated to your
newsreader? No? Thought not.

I no longer read Mr. Riley's posts, so I may be missing some context,
but this looks like an excellent example. There *are* newsgroups
dedicated to my newsreader, and if I have a question about using my
newsreader to post to c.l.c., I go to them to ask it. I don't ask it
in c.l.c., even though there are many in the group who use the same
reader, and even though I may sometimes use it to post C language
related articles.
I've been on news groups for my IDE, my editor and my platform.
Jolly helpful they were too.

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