Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
I have BS ISO/IEC 14882:2003 (2nd ed) as published by John Wiley &
Sons. I'm in the middle of a standard argument on this issue and
safety isn't convincing my opponents - deprication might.
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* ro**********@gm ail.com: Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
They aren't.
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
I have BS ISO/IEC 14882:2003 (2nd ed) as published by John Wiley &
Sons. I'm in the middle of a standard argument on this issue and
safety isn't convincing my opponents - deprication might.
You can't force anyone to write decent code. You can't force anyone to
share your values, your opinion on what is good and bad. So if they
insist on using C style casts, let them.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ro**********@gm ail.com wrote: Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
Deprecated? Nowhere. 5.4 describes the explicit type conversion and what
it means.
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
Because it's not there. What web site claims that it's deprecated? Can
you post a link?
I have BS ISO/IEC 14882:2003 (2nd ed) as published by John Wiley &
Sons. I'm in the middle of a standard argument on this issue and
safety isn't convincing my opponents - deprication might.
Sorry to disappoint you. No deprecation on that one.
V
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Victor Bazarov wrote: ro**********@gm ail.com wrote: Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
Deprecated? Nowhere. 5.4 describes the explicit type conversion and what
it means.
Yep, that's what I see...
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
Because it's not there. What web site claims that it's deprecated? Can
you post a link? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ecated&spell=1
There's a few. A good section of the first few pages actually say it,
the others just contain all words.
Victor Bazarov wrote: ro**********@gm ail.com wrote: Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
Deprecated? Nowhere. 5.4 describes the explicit type conversion and what
it means.
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
Because it's not there. What web site claims that it's deprecated? Can
you post a link?
I have BS ISO/IEC 14882:2003 (2nd ed) as published by John Wiley &
Sons. I'm in the middle of a standard argument on this issue and
safety isn't convincing my opponents - deprication might.
Sorry to disappoint you. No deprecation on that one.
V
In this context, deprecation means 'frowned upon' not 'no longer
supported'. So in this sense, they are deprecated. Clearly their
addition to the language implied that their use, in most cases, was
preferred to C style casts.
--dakka ro**********@gm ail.com wrote: Victor Bazarov wrote:
ro**********@ gmail.com wrote:
Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
Deprecated? Nowhere. 5.4 describes the explicit type conversion and what
it means.
Yep, that's what I see...
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
Because it's not there. What web site claims that it's deprecated? Can
you post a link?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ecated&spell=1
There's a few. A good section of the first few pages actually say it,
the others just contain all words.
The first two pages that come up are about the D language, and not C++.
The third, fourth, and fifth pages do not have it. On the sixth, somebody
named "Chuck Allison" claims they are deprecated, you need to take it up
with him.
The rest... I have no time for chasing ghosts. I didn't find any mention
of deprecation of C-style casts in the C++ Standard.
V
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Dakka wrote: In this context, deprecation means 'frowned upon' not 'no longer
supported'. So in this sense, they are deprecated. Clearly their
addition to the language implied that their use, in most cases, was
preferred to C style casts.
Actually I have run into quite a few websites that state that the
standard committee depricated C-style casts; the committee would not
*depricate* a feature if they didn't mean the formal definition. I
don't know if any in the google search I posted do but I have seen it
in at least 3 different sources so I was rather confused that I
couldn't find any mention of that in the standard (in fact as mentioned
here the only text in the standard I could find on C-Style cast
describes what they are/do and makes no mention of deprication).
Depricated in that context to me means the next standard very well
might not have them and in fact this is exactly what websites that make
this claim say.
Perhaps it is in an addendum or something?
Dakka wrote: Victor Bazarov wrote:
ro**********@gm ail.com wrote:
Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
Deprecated? Nowhere. 5.4 describes the explicit type conversion and
what
it means.
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
Because it's not there. What web site claims that it's deprecated? Can
you post a link?
I have BS ISO/IEC 14882:2003 (2nd ed) as published by John Wiley &
Sons. I'm in the middle of a standard argument on this issue and
safety isn't convincing my opponents - deprication might.
Sorry to disappoint you. No deprecation on that one.
V
In this context, deprecation means 'frowned upon' not 'no longer
supported'.
In what context?
The OP specifically asked about deprecation of C-style casts in the
Standard. There is none. The Standard does not contain any human emotion
or any judgement. It cannot. Nothing is "frowned upon" in the Standard.
So in this sense, they are deprecated. Clearly their
addition to the language implied that their use, in most cases, was
preferred to C style casts.
Addition of what to which language?
--dakka
V
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Please remove capital As from my address when replying by mail ro**********@gm ail.com wrote: Dakka wrote:
In this context, deprecation means 'frowned upon' not 'no longer
supported'. So in this sense, they are deprecated. Clearly their
addition to the language implied that their use, in most cases, was
preferred to C style casts.
Actually I have run into quite a few websites that state that the
standard committee depricated C-style casts; the committee would not
*depricate* a feature if they didn't mean the formal definition. I
don't know if any in the google search I posted do but I have seen it
in at least 3 different sources so I was rather confused that I
couldn't find any mention of that in the standard (in fact as mentioned
here the only text in the standard I could find on C-Style cast
describes what they are/do and makes no mention of deprication).
Depricated in that context to me means the next standard very well
might not have them and in fact this is exactly what websites that make
this claim say.
Perhaps it is in an addendum or something?
Interestingly, Stroustrup also refers to C style casts as deprecated in
the C++ Programming Language, Special Edition, 2000, pp 818-819
Victor Bazarov wrote: Dakka wrote: Victor Bazarov wrote:
ro**********@gm ail.com wrote:
Where is it in the standard that C style casts are labeled depricated?
Deprecated? Nowhere. 5.4 describes the explicit type conversion and
what
it means.
I read that on a lot of websites but I can't find it in the standard.
Because it's not there. What web site claims that it's deprecated? Can
you post a link?
I have BS ISO/IEC 14882:2003 (2nd ed) as published by John Wiley &
Sons. I'm in the middle of a standard argument on this issue and
safety isn't convincing my opponents - deprication might.
Sorry to disappoint you. No deprecation on that one.
V
In this context, deprecation means 'frowned upon' not 'no longer
supported'.
In what context?
Take out your dictionary, V and look up the meaning of the word.
The OP specifically asked about deprecation of C-style casts in the
Standard. There is none. The Standard does not contain any human emotion
or any judgement. It cannot. Nothing is "frowned upon" in the Standard.
> So in this sense, they are deprecated. Clearly their
addition to the language implied that their use, in most cases, was
preferred to C style casts.
Addition of what to which language?
Well we're not talking about Ada are we? Probably C++ - what do you think?
--dakka
V
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