isprint() equivalent for ISO-8859-15?

[Ian Chard]

Hi,

I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset
(i.e. 8-bit ASCII, incorporating things like accented 'a' or euro currency
symbol) is printable. Ordinarily I'd use isprint(), but obviously this is
only going to work for 7-bit "true ASCII" characters.

I've thought of running the program in a different locale, but I want to
catch *all* printable characters, not only those used by a specific
locale. It'd be nice for the code to be as portable as possible, too.

I could just write a macro to range-check the character (it's not like the
standard's going to change), but I'd prefer a cleaner way if possible!

All help gratefully appreciated.

Cheers
- Ian

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[Martin Dickopp]

"Ian Chard" <ia*@tanagra.de mon.co.uk> writes:

I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset
(i.e. 8-bit ASCII, incorporating things like accented 'a' or euro currency
symbol) is printable.
#define IS_ISO_8859_15( c) \
(((unsigned char)(c) >= 0x20 && (unsigned char)(c) < 0x7F) \
|| ((unsigned char)(c) >= 0xA0 && (unsigned char)(c) <= 0xFF))

or the function equivalent if a macro is not acceptable.
Ordinarily I'd use isprint(), but obviously this is only going to work
for 7-bit "true ASCII" characters.
Actually, it is locale dependent how isprint behaves.
I've thought of running the program in a different locale, but I want to
catch *all* printable characters, not only those used by a specific
locale. It'd be nice for the code to be as portable as possible, too.
If you restrict yourself to a specific character encoding (ISO-8859-15),
the code will obviously not run correctly on systems with incompatible
character encodings. Therefore, it is by definition not portable.

If you want the most portable solution, use `isprint'.
I could just write a macro to range-check the character (it's not like the
standard's going to change), but I'd prefer a cleaner way if possible!

If you want to check for a printable character in a portable way, use
`isprint'. If you want to check for a character printable in ISO-8859-15
encoding, use something like the macro above.

Martin

[Alex]

"Ian Chard" <ia*@tanagra.de mon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pa******** *************** *****@tanagra.d emon.co.uk...

I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset [snip] I've thought of running the program in a different locale, but I want to
catch *all* printable characters, not only those used by a specific
locale.

A printable character in one locale may not be in another. In other words,
the concept of a printable character is inherently locale-specific.

You seem to be asking for the logical "or" of isprint() return values for
all possible locales - this does not make sense at all. Perhaps I
misunderstand what you are asking.

Alex

[Dan Pop]

In <bp************ *@news.t-online.com> Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> writes:

"Ian Chard" <ia*@tanagra.de mon.co.uk> writes:

I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset
(i.e. 8-bit ASCII, incorporating things like accented 'a' or euro currency
symbol) is printable.

#define IS_ISO_8859_15( c) \
(((unsigned char)(c) >= 0x20 && (unsigned char)(c) < 0x7F) \
|| ((unsigned char)(c) >= 0xA0 && (unsigned char)(c) <= 0xFF))

The casts to unsigned char are wrong, drop them. They make
IS_ISO_8859_15( 288) return true on any implementation with
UCHAR_MAX == 256.

Dan
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[Micah Cowan]

Da*****@cern.ch (Dan Pop) writes:

In <bp************ *@news.t-online.com> Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> writes:

"Ian Chard" <ia*@tanagra.de mon.co.uk> writes:

I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset
(i.e. 8-bit ASCII, incorporating things like accented 'a' or euro currency
symbol) is printable.

#define IS_ISO_8859_15( c) \
(((unsigned char)(c) >= 0x20 && (unsigned char)(c) < 0x7F) \
|| ((unsigned char)(c) >= 0xA0 && (unsigned char)(c) <= 0xFF))

The casts to unsigned char are wrong, drop them. They make
IS_ISO_8859_15( 288) return true on any implementation with
UCHAR_MAX == 256.

Why does that make them wrong? I would expect the above macro to
be documented similar to "expects a char [or unsigned char] as
argument", in which case a caller giving an argument of 288
should /expect/ undefined results in the situation you've
described.

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Micah J. Cowan
mi***@cowan.nam e

[Dik T. Winter]

In article <m3************ @localhost.loca ldomain> Micah Cowan <mi***@cowan.na me> writes:

Da*****@cern.ch (Dan Pop) writes: ....

#define IS_ISO_8859_15( c) \
(((unsigned char)(c) >= 0x20 && (unsigned char)(c) < 0x7F) \
|| ((unsigned char)(c) >= 0xA0 && (unsigned char)(c) <= 0xFF))

The casts to unsigned char are wrong, drop them. They make
IS_ISO_8859_15( 288) return true on any implementation with
UCHAR_MAX == 256.

Why does that make them wrong? I would expect the above macro to
be documented similar to "expects a char [or unsigned char] as
argument",

That is *not* the wording for "isprint" and friends. There the argument is
an int with a value that is representable as unsigned char, or is EOF.
IS_ISO_8859_15( EOF) most likely will yield true.
in which case a caller giving an argument of 288
should /expect/ undefined results in the situation you've
described.

Note that "isascii" is a common extension which expects an arbitrary
integer. Your macro more resembles isprint. And wouldn't it be easier
to just use "setlocale" ?
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[Dan Pop]

In <m3************ @localhost.loca ldomain> Micah Cowan <mi***@cowan.na me> writes:

Da*****@cern.c h (Dan Pop) writes:

In <bp************ *@news.t-online.com> Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> writes:

>"Ian Chard" <ia*@tanagra.de mon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset
>> (i.e. 8-bit ASCII, incorporating things like accented 'a' or euro currency
>> symbol) is printable.
>
>#define IS_ISO_8859_15( c) \
> (((unsigned char)(c) >= 0x20 && (unsigned char)(c) < 0x7F) \
> || ((unsigned char)(c) >= 0xA0 && (unsigned char)(c) <= 0xFF))

The casts to unsigned char are wrong, drop them. They make
IS_ISO_8859_15( 288) return true on any implementation with
UCHAR_MAX == 256.

Why does that make them wrong? I would expect the above macro to
be documented similar to "expects a char [or unsigned char] as
argument", in which case a caller giving an argument of 288
should /expect/ undefined results in the situation you've
described.

Since I haven't seen the documentation of IS_ISO_8859_15, I would expect
it to do the job advertised by its name.

Dan
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[Micah Cowan]

"Dik T. Winter" <Di********@cwi .nl> writes:

In article <m3************ @localhost.loca ldomain> Micah Cowan <mi***@cowan.na me> writes:

> Da*****@cern.ch (Dan Pop) writes: ...

> > >#define IS_ISO_8859_15( c) \
> > > (((unsigned char)(c) >= 0x20 && (unsigned char)(c) < 0x7F) \
> > > || ((unsigned char)(c) >= 0xA0 && (unsigned char)(c) <= 0xFF))
> >
> > The casts to unsigned char are wrong, drop them. They make
> > IS_ISO_8859_15( 288) return true on any implementation with
> > UCHAR_MAX == 256.

>
> Why does that make them wrong? I would expect the above macro to
> be documented similar to "expects a char [or unsigned char] as
> argument",

That is *not* the wording for "isprint" and friends. There the argument is
an int with a value that is representable as unsigned char, or is EOF.
IS_ISO_8859_15( EOF) most likely will yield true.

I didn't say it was. The above is not isprint(). I do agree that
it should probably act the same way as isprint()--but it wouldn't
have to. Handling 288 correctly, though (assuming it's out of
range for an unsigned char) is not something one should expect of
isprint(), either.

> in which case a caller giving an argument of 288
> should /expect/ undefined results in the situation you've
> described.

Note that "isascii" is a common extension which expects an arbitrary
integer. Your macro more resembles isprint. And wouldn't it be easier
to just use "setlocale" ?

Not my macro. And I agree about setlocale().

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Micah J. Cowan
mi***@cowan.nam e

[Micah Cowan]

Da*****@cern.ch (Dan Pop) writes:

In <m3************ @localhost.loca ldomain> Micah Cowan <mi***@cowan.na me> writes:

Why does that make them wrong? I would expect the above macro to
be documented similar to "expects a char [or unsigned char] as
argument", in which case a caller giving an argument of 288
should /expect/ undefined results in the situation you've
described.

Since I haven't seen the documentation of IS_ISO_8859_15, I would expect
it to do the job advertised by its name.

Fair enough: perhaps this should serve as a reminder to all that,
no matter how small their example, they should always specify
exactly *how* it is meant be used, even if you think it should be
obvious from reading.

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Micah J. Cowan
mi***@cowan.nam e

[those who know me have no need of my name]

in comp.lang.c i read:

I need to be able to tell if a character in the ISO-8859-15 codeset
(i.e. 8-bit ASCII, incorporating things like accented 'a' or euro currency
symbol) is printable. Ordinarily I'd use isprint(), but obviously this is
only going to work for 7-bit "true ASCII" characters.
isprint will work fine if the locale is set appropriately.
I've thought of running the program in a different locale, but I want to
catch *all* printable characters, not only those used by a specific
locale.

on most systems a uni/single-byte character sequence cannot compose all
possible printable characters, char having a range well below that
necessary for even the small number of unique characters in the iso-8859-x
repertoires. for this to be possible you need multi-byte character
sequences.

yet if your stream contains mbcs then isprint is totally inappropriate, you
need to convert to a wchar_t or wint_t and use iswprint, and the conversion
demands that the locale be set appropriately.

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