(Why) Can't char* template parameters be const?

[Steven T. Hatton]

#include <iostream>

namespace ns{
const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";//won't compile
//char name[] = "This is a Class Name"; // compiles

template <typename T, char* Name_CA=name>
struct A {
A()
: _data(15)
, _name(Name_CA)
{}
T _data;
char* _name;
};

}

int main()
{
ns::A<int> a;

std::cout << a._name <<"\n";
return 0;
}

In function int main()
error: address of non-extern `ns::name' cannot be used as template
argument

I'm sure the explanation is buried somewhere in Clause 3 esoterica, but can
someone please explain in human readable form, why the version with const
char* won't compile?

--
"If our hypothesis is about anything and not about some one or more
particular things, then our deductions constitute mathematics. Thus
mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we
are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true." - Bertrand
Russell

[Victor Bazarov]

Steven T. Hatton wrote:

#include <iostream>

namespace ns{
const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";//won't compile
Make it

extern const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";
//char name[] = "This is a Class Name"; // compiles

template <typename T, char* Name_CA=name>
struct A {
A()
: _data(15)
, _name(Name_CA)
{}
T _data;
char* _name;
};

}

int main()
{
ns::A<int> a;

std::cout << a._name <<"\n";
return 0;
}

In function int main()
error: address of non-extern `ns::name' cannot be used as template
argument

I'm sure the explanation is buried somewhere in Clause 3 esoterica, but can
someone please explain in human readable form, why the version with const
char* won't compile?

Because const char* by default has internal linkage. Non-type template
arguments are required to have external linkage.

Victor

[John Harrison]

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#include <iostream>

namespace ns{
const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";//won't compile
//char name[] = "This is a Class Name"; // compiles

template <typename T, char* Name_CA=name>
struct A {
A()
: _data(15)
, _name(Name_CA)
{}
T _data;
char* _name;
};

}

int main()
{
ns::A<int> a;

std::cout << a._name <<"\n";
return 0;
}

In function int main()
error: address of non-extern `ns::name' cannot be used as template
argument

I'm sure the explanation is buried somewhere in Clause 3 esoterica, but
can
someone please explain in human readable form, why the version with const
char* won't compile?

Template parameters must have external linkage, const is implicitly internal
linkage in C++. Try

extern const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";

Not sure why template parameters must have external linkage though.

john

[JKop]

Template parameters must have external linkage, const is implicitly
internal linkage in C++. Try

extern const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";

Not sure why template parameters must have external linkage though.

Imagine you have two source files.
Both of them define the same template (by including its header file).
Both of them have a "const" global variable (which has internal linkage).

They both create a instance of this template (what's the correct lingo
there?) using their global variable.

The problem here is that, because "const" makes it internal linkage, the two
files could have different definitions of a variable of the same name, and
without violating the One Definition Rule. As a result:

Blah<monkey>();

in one file, will not be the same instance of the template as:

Blah<monkey>();

which resides in a different source file.
-JKop

[Steven T. Hatton]

JKop wrote:

Template parameters must have external linkage, const is implicitly
internal linkage in C++. Try

extern const char name[] = "This is a Class Name";

Not sure why template parameters must have external linkage though.

Imagine you have two source files.

Indeed, that was the other part of the problem. When I made it extern, I
got ODR violations. I ended up doing this:

namespace sth {
namespace tmath {
namespace {
extern const char TensorIndex_CA[] = "TensorInde x";
...
using std::stringstre am;
}

template<size_t Order_S, size_t Rank_S>
class TensorIndex : public NamedClass<Tens orIndex_CA> {
public:
static const size_t ORDER; // range of indices
static const size_t RANK; // number of indices
static const size_t SIZE; // number of components
static string className();
static string fqClassName();
static string baseClasses();
ostream& print(ostream& out, const size_t& verbosity=0) const;
};
Both of them define the same template (by including its header file).
Both of them have a "const" global variable (which has internal linkage).
At worst it will be namespace local. If I were force to make them global, I
would be switching the C# right now.
They both create a instance of this template (what's the correct lingo
there?) using their global variable.
I believe you instantiate a template when you make a type out of it. You
would then instantiate an object of that type before you could use a class
template, etc.
The problem here is that, because "const" makes it internal linkage, the
two files could have different definitions of a variable of the same name,
and without violating the One Definition Rule. As a result:

Blah<monkey>();

in one file, will not be the same instance of the template as:

Blah<monkey>();

which resides in a different source file.

I'm not sure what to make of that, because it appears I /cannot/ have the
definition visible across translation unit boundaries. So the linkage has
to be extern, but it cannot be externally visible. Go figure.

--
"If our hypothesis is about anything and not about some one or more
particular things, then our deductions constitute mathematics. Thus
mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we
are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true." - Bertrand
Russell