Internal Compiler Error // Stupid Standards?

[Matthew Del Buono]

Don't try to solve the problem. I've found a way -- around or fixing it. I'm
just curious as to whether this is Microsoft's problem in their compiler or
if there's a standard saying this is to be true (not necessarily an internal
compiler error, but still an error)

This may just a bit OT, but I decided to post it here instead of Microsoft
because my question is more directed towards standards...

Of course, any other day I would have been on my Linux computer with GCC,
but today I didn't have that option. I have the following function. I tried
to standarize it (CList => vector) but just about every function is
different. Basically, type T and A are about the same (the type of the
vector). The functions are somewhat self explanatory... A POSITION is
basically an index; not exactly, but for our purposes we will say that it
is...

template <class T, class A>
CList<T, A>& copyList(CList< T, A>& mod, const CList<T, A>& orig)
{
POSITION curpos;

// Make sure mod is empty
while (!mod.IsEmpty() )
mod.RemoveHead( );
#pragma warning(disable :4706)
if (!(curpos = orig.GetHeadPos ition()))

return mod;
else
mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));

orig.GetNext(cu rpos);
while (curpos)
{
mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));
orig.GetNext(cu rpos);
};

// Do one more...
mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));
orig.GetNext(cu rpos);
return mod;
}

I get the following error:
fatal error C1001: INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR

Trying to compile with option /Bd (which is supposed to help you locate
where the internal error occurs) ends up crashing the compiler, instead of
yielding a C1001. I've found out that the problem lies in the #pragma
warning(disable :4706).

By placing the #pragma warning(disable :4706) outside of the template, the
template works fine. Is there a practical reason for this? Or is it just one
of the many bugs that M$ produces every year...

Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 using MFC
------------------------------------------

On an unrelated note, actually, I have one more question about ANSI
standards. In the same block of code, there is a messy line (which you
probably all yelled at when you read it) which reads

mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));

(similar ones follow)

Of course nobody likes to use a const_cast. The problem was that I was
getting a warning, stating that a non-standard extention was being used. I
try to make my programs as standard as possible. When compiling the (I
thought) pratical line:

mod.AddHead(ori g.GetAt(curpos) );

I got the following warning:

c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\myprojec ts\digitaldarkr oom\stdafx.h(53 ) : warning C4239: nonstandard
extension used : 'argument' : conversion from 'class CFilter' to 'class
CFilter &'
A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue

That line struck me: "A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to
a non-lvalue." Why exactly is that? It seems like it's just another
compilcation in the midst of C++... I don't see any practical purpose for
not being able to bind a non-lvalue to reference to a non-const. In fact, it
almost makes more sense. Obviously the line a = 4 is legal, but taking out
the reference, it is exactly the same thing. A non-const (but not a
reference) is being bound by a non-lvalue (obviously you can't write 4 = a).
Thus, I was forced to "de-const" the paramter to make it standardized.
Surely, the line

mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));

is much uglier, but at least it's standardized. Certainly nobody ever likes
to run with const_casts in their programs. It's almost as bad as a
reinterpret_cas t and completely oversteps the point of a type-strict
language. Of course there are other ways around it, too, but this was the
easiest to code, in my opinion.

So why exactly is it there? Makes absolutely no sense to me...

-- Matt

[John Harrison]

"Matthew Del Buono" <Ma******@nospa m.com> wrote in message
news:sQfoc.1264 8$Lm3.5825@lake read04...

Don't try to solve the problem. I've found a way -- around or fixing it. I'm just curious as to whether this is Microsoft's problem in their compiler or if there's a standard saying this is to be true (not necessarily an internal compiler error, but still an error)

This may just a bit OT, but I decided to post it here instead of Microsoft
because my question is more directed towards standards...

Of course, any other day I would have been on my Linux computer with GCC,
but today I didn't have that option. I have the following function. I tried to standarize it (CList => vector) but just about every function is
different. Basically, type T and A are about the same (the type of the
vector). The functions are somewhat self explanatory... A POSITION is
basically an index; not exactly, but for our purposes we will say that it
is...

template <class T, class A>
CList<T, A>& copyList(CList< T, A>& mod, const CList<T, A>& orig)
{
POSITION curpos;

// Make sure mod is empty
while (!mod.IsEmpty() )
mod.RemoveHead( );
#pragma warning(disable :4706)
if (!(curpos = orig.GetHeadPos ition()))

return mod;
else
mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));

orig.GetNext(cu rpos);
while (curpos)
{
mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));
orig.GetNext(cu rpos);
};

// Do one more...
mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));
orig.GetNext(cu rpos);
return mod;
}

I get the following error:
fatal error C1001: INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR

Trying to compile with option /Bd (which is supposed to help you locate
where the internal error occurs) ends up crashing the compiler, instead of
yielding a C1001. I've found out that the problem lies in the #pragma
warning(disable :4706).

By placing the #pragma warning(disable :4706) outside of the template, the
template works fine. Is there a practical reason for this? Or is it just one of the many bugs that M$ produces every year...
No idea, but the effect of pragmas is completely compiler dependent and if
MS want to make it a requirement that you put this pragma outside of any
templates they can.

Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 using MFC
------------------------------------------

On an unrelated note, actually, I have one more question about ANSI
standards. In the same block of code, there is a messy line (which you
probably all yelled at when you read it) which reads

mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));

(similar ones follow)

Of course nobody likes to use a const_cast. The problem was that I was
getting a warning, stating that a non-standard extention was being used. I
try to make my programs as standard as possible.
Well why in God's name are you using CList? Use std::list instead (not
std::vector), its both standard and better designed. Obviously this will
mean some code rewriting.
When compiling the (I
thought) pratical line:

mod.AddHead(ori g.GetAt(curpos) );

I got the following warning:

c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\myprojec ts\digitaldarkr oom\stdafx.h(53 ) : warning C4239: nonstandard extension used : 'argument' : conversion from 'class CFilter' to 'class
CFilter &'
A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue

That line struck me: "A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue." Why exactly is that? It seems like it's just another
compilcation in the midst of C++... I don't see any practical purpose for
not being able to bind a non-lvalue to reference to a non-const. In fact, it almost makes more sense.
It's alleged that the possibility of binding a temporary (or non-lvalue) to
a non-const reference is confusing. This was feedback during the
developement of C++ according to Bjarne Stroustrup (there's a post in the
archives of comp.lang.c++ to that effect, maybe you could find it).

I have my doubts but it not usually a problem in well written code, so its
not something that bothers me too much. It does bother me that some
compilers don't enforce this rule correctly, that does lead to confusion.
Obviously the line a = 4 is legal, but taking out
the reference, it is exactly the same thing. A non-const (but not a
reference) is being bound by a non-lvalue (obviously you can't write 4 = a). Thus, I was forced to "de-const" the paramter to make it standardized.
Surely, the line

mod.AddHead(con st_cast<CList<T , A>&>(orig).GetA t(curpos));

is much uglier, but at least it's standardized. Certainly nobody ever likes to run with const_casts in their programs. It's almost as bad as a
reinterpret_cas t and completely oversteps the point of a type-strict
language. Of course there are other ways around it, too, but this was the
easiest to code, in my opinion.
What is the type of A in this case? If you made A a const reference I
believe the code should compile without the const_cast.

So why exactly is it there? Makes absolutely no sense to me...

-- Matt

[Carl Ribbegaardh]

"Matthew Del Buono" <Ma******@nospa m.com> wrote in message
news:sQfoc.1264 8$Lm3.5825@lake read04...

Don't try to solve the problem. I've found a way -- around or fixing it. I'm just curious as to whether this is Microsoft's problem in their compiler or if there's a standard saying this is to be true (not necessarily an internal compiler error, but still an error)

This may just a bit OT, but I decided to post it here instead of Microsoft
because my question is more directed towards standards...

Of course, any other day I would have been on my Linux computer with GCC,
but today I didn't have that option. I have the following function. I tried to standarize it (CList => vector) but just about every function is
different. Basically, type T and A are about the same (the type of the
vector). The functions are somewhat self explanatory... A POSITION is
basically an index; not exactly, but for our purposes we will say that it
is...

template <class T, class A>
CList<T, A>& copyList(CList< T, A>& mod, const CList<T, A>& orig)
{
POSITION curpos;

// Make sure mod is empty
while (!mod.IsEmpty() )
mod.RemoveHead( );
#pragma warning(disable :4706)
if (!(curpos = orig.GetHeadPos ition()))
The compiler warning which you disables is "assignment within conditional
expression".
Are you 100% sure you aren't accidently using the assignment operator (=)
instead of the comparison operator (==) ?


By placing the #pragma warning(disable :4706) outside of the template, the
template works fine. Is there a practical reason for this? Or is it just one of the many bugs that M$ produces every year...

You can turn off warnings by issuing pragmas. I think it's useful, but I do
find out first what the warning's about. If I decide that the code is fine,
then I'll just add a pragma. :)

/Carl

[Michiel Salters]

"Matthew Del Buono" <Ma******@nospa m.com> wrote in message news:<sQfoc.126 48$Lm3.5825@lak eread04>...

I got the following warning:

c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\myprojec ts\digitaldarkr oom\stdafx.h(53 ) : warning C4239: nonstandard
extension used : 'argument' : conversion from 'class CFilter' to 'class
CFilter &'
A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue

That line struck me: "A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to
a non-lvalue." Why exactly is that?

int f() { return 42; }
void increment( int& v ) { ++v; }
increment(f());

What is incremented? Where does the result go?

Regards,
Michiel Salters

[Marc]

Michiel Salters wrote:

int f() { return 42; }
void increment( int& v ) { ++v; }
increment(f());

What is incremented? Where does the result go?

a temporary containing 42 could be incremented, and the result then be
dropped. And everything would be optimized away in the end.

What's wrong with allowing it*? There is no ambiguity.

[J. Andrew MacDonald]

Michiel Salters wrote:

"Matthew Del Buono" <Ma******@nospa m.com> wrote in message news:<sQfoc.126 48$Lm3.5825@lak eread04>...

I got the following warning:

c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\myproj ects\digitaldar kroom\stdafx.h( 53) : warning C4239: nonstandard
extension used : 'argument' : conversion from 'class CFilter' to 'class
CFilter &'
A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue

That line struck me: "A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to
a non-lvalue." Why exactly is that?

int f() { return 42; }
void increment( int& v ) { ++v; }
increment(f());

What is incremented? Where does the result go?

I guess the temporary from f() would be incrememented, but that'll just "disappear" .

The warning is complaining about passing a temporary into a function that could
possibly changes its value (due to a non-const reference).

If you changed the increment method to return the incremented value, you'd be
ok. Or in the case of the warning, whatever you're trying to pass a CFilter
into... make it "const CFilter &".

int f() { return 42; }
const int increment(const int & v) { return(v++); }
int value = increment(f());


Regards,
Michiel Salters

[puppet_sock]

"Matthew Del Buono" <Ma******@nospa m.com> wrote in message news:<sQfoc.126 48$Lm3.5825@lak eread04>...
[snip]

Trying to compile with option /Bd (which is supposed to help you locate
where the internal error occurs) ends up crashing the compiler, instead of
yielding a C1001. I've found out that the problem lies in the #pragma
warning(disable :4706).

By placing the #pragma warning(disable :4706) outside of the template, the
template works fine. Is there a practical reason for this? Or is it just one
of the many bugs that M$ produces every year...

Urm. Well, it's a tad off topic, and also a tad sarcastic and snide.
But I've already got today's headache, so...

C1001 is the "I'm in trouble but don't know how to get out" message.
Someplace, a "sensibilit y" check has failed, indicating that something
has gone badly wrong. But the compiler can't pinpoint it, and has
no way of correcting it. Generally, in such situations, anything
output after that is mighty suspect at best.

Dealing with it can be frustrating. It can happen in perfectly correct
and legal code, even according to MS's definition of those words. Or
it can happen due to a real error in the code, and indicate that the
compiler has misdiagnosed something, or failed to correctly handle
the error condition. For example, it might be that there is some
bug in the compiler that does not correctly deal with some category
of syntax errors, in some set of conditions. Or there may be some
poorly mapped limitation of the compiler, say depth of this-n-that
combined with width of that-n-this, etc., that only shows up when
you skate close enough to the edge on several things.

About all you can do is nudge and poke your code till the error goes
away.
Socks

[Matthew Del Buono]

"J. Andrew MacDonald" <am******@caris .com> wrote in message
news:E1******** *************@u rsa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb .ca...

Michiel Salters wrote:

"Matthew Del Buono" <Ma******@nospa m.com> wrote in message news:<sQfoc.126 48$Lm3.5825@lak eread04>...

I got the following warning:

c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\myproj ects\digitaldar kroom\stdafx.h( 53) : warning C4239: nonstandardextension used : 'argument' : conversion from 'class CFilter' to 'class
CFilter &'
A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue
That line struck me: "A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound toa non-lvalue." Why exactly is that?

int f() { return 42; }
void increment( int& v ) { ++v; }
increment(f());

What is incremented? Where does the result go?

I guess the temporary from f() would be incrememented, but that'll just

"disappear" .
The warning is complaining about passing a temporary into a function that could possibly changes its value (due to a non-const reference).

If you changed the increment method to return the incremented value, you'd be ok. Or in the case of the warning, whatever you're trying to pass a CFilter into... make it "const CFilter &".

int f() { return 42; }
const int increment(const int & v) { return(v++); }
int value = increment(f());

Regards,
Michiel Salters

Ah, okay, I get it. Honestly I didn't care about the pass-back from the
value. So I guess it's that I didn't properly understand its wording. Thanks
for explaining it.

-- Matt