The :: operator, and "global"

[Javaman59]

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global namespace, as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is there any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

TIA,

Javaman

[Octavio Hernandez]

Javaman,

AFAIK, there's no "global" keyword in c# 2.0. You only use the operator '::'
to indicate the compiler to start the search from the 'outest' scope:

namespace A {
namespace System {
class X {
public void Message(string s)
{
::System.Window s.Forms.Message Box.Show(s); // '::' needed here
}
}
}
}

Regards - Octavio
"Javaman59" <Ja*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:76******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global namespace,
as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is there
any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

TIA,

Javaman

[Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]]

You should probably check before you post. Your code will not compile - thats a C++ construct. There is a global keyword in C# v2 and it always goes together with :: to indicate global scope of the type.

global::System. Windows.Forms.M essageBox.Show( "foo");

Regards

Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk/weblog
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk

Javaman,

AFAIK, there's no "global" keyword in c# 2.0. You only use the operator '::'
to indicate the compiler to start the search from the 'outest' scope:

namespace A {
namespace System {
class X {
public void Message(string s)
{
::System.Window s.Forms.Message Box.Show(s); // '::' needed here
}
}
}
}

Regards - Octavio
"Javaman59" <Ja*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> escribi? en el mensaje
news:76******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global namespace,
as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is there
any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

TIA,

Javaman

[microsoft.publi c.dotnet.langua ges.csharp]

[Octavio Hernandez]

Richard,

Thanks for your correction.
Actually I did that check, referring to a MSDN Magazine I always considered
excellent:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/is...0/default.aspx

Maybe the article is little bit old and specs have changed since then?

Regards - Octavio

"Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]" <ri******@NOSPA Mdevelop.com> escribió en
el mensaje news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..

You should probably check before you post. Your code will not compile -
thats a C++ construct. There is a global keyword in C# v2 and it always
goes together with :: to indicate global scope of the type.

global::System. Windows.Forms.M essageBox.Show( "foo");

Regards

Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk/weblog
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk

Javaman,

AFAIK, there's no "global" keyword in c# 2.0. You only use the operator
'::'
to indicate the compiler to start the search from the 'outest' scope:

namespace A {
namespace System {
class X {
public void Message(string s)
{
::System.Window s.Forms.Message Box.Show(s); // '::' needed here
}
}
}
}

Regards - Octavio
"Javaman59" <Ja*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> escribi? en el mensaje
news:76******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global
namespace,
as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is
there
any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

TIA,

Javaman

[microsoft.publi c.dotnet.langua ges.csharp]

[Oliver Sturm]

Javaman59 wrote:

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global namespace, as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is there any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

Apart from the other replies, there's another, maybe more common, use
for the :: operator. You know the way you can define aliases in a using
statement? Like this:

using SWF = System.Windows. Forms;

Now you can use SWF as a shortcut for the System.Windows. Forms
namespace. In .NET 1.1, you used to write

SWF.Form

or whatever to refer to a type within the aliased namespace. This could
obviously be an ambiguous expression in certain circumstances, so in
..NET 2, the :: operator was introduced to be used in this situation. So
in .NET 2 you'd write

SWF::Form

instead, which is no longer ambiguous. The "global" alias is nothing
more than a default alias for the topmost namespace and can't be used in
any other context, as the other posters already said.
Oliver Sturm
--
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Spaces inserted to prevent google email destruction:
MSN oliver @ sturmnet.org Jabber sturm @ amessage.de
ICQ 27142619 http://www.sturmnet.org/blog

[Javaman59]

Thanks Octavio for answering my question. I had a quick look at the article
too, and it does say the "::" is valid as a prefix (ie. your code should
compile). Maybe someone was hoping that c++ style "::" would return, but
Microsoft eventually decided against it :). I'm glad, too, because I always
found that dangling "::" confusing - "global::" is much cleareer!

- Javaman

"Octavio Hernandez" wrote:

Richard,

Thanks for your correction.
Actually I did that check, referring to a MSDN Magazine I always considered
excellent:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/is...0/default.aspx

Maybe the article is little bit old and specs have changed since then?

Regards - Octavio

"Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]" <ri******@NOSPA Mdevelop.com> escribió en
el mensaje news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..

You should probably check before you post. Your code will not compile -
thats a C++ construct. There is a global keyword in C# v2 and it always
goes together with :: to indicate global scope of the type.

global::System. Windows.Forms.M essageBox.Show( "foo");

Regards

Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk/weblog
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk

Javaman,

AFAIK, there's no "global" keyword in c# 2.0. You only use the operator
'::'
to indicate the compiler to start the search from the 'outest' scope:

namespace A {
namespace System {
class X {
public void Message(string s)
{
::System.Window s.Forms.Message Box.Show(s); // '::' needed here
}
}
}
}

Regards - Octavio
"Javaman59" <Ja*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> escribi? en el mensaje
news:76******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global
namespace,
as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is
there
any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

TIA,

Javaman

[microsoft.publi c.dotnet.langua ges.csharp]

[Javaman59]

Thanks Oliver,

That's really what I was looking for. MSDN on the "::" operator says that it
is placed between two identifiers, but it isn't clear how it can be used,
apart from "global::SomeNa mespace". Your reply clears it up for me.

- Javaman

"Oliver Sturm" wrote:

Javaman59 wrote:

I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global namespace, as
in

global::MyNames pace

I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained it
nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is there any
other use for these operators, than as a pair?

Apart from the other replies, there's another, maybe more common, use
for the :: operator. You know the way you can define aliases in a using
statement? Like this:

using SWF = System.Windows. Forms;

Now you can use SWF as a shortcut for the System.Windows. Forms
namespace. In .NET 1.1, you used to write

SWF.Form

or whatever to refer to a type within the aliased namespace. This could
obviously be an ambiguous expression in certain circumstances, so in
..NET 2, the :: operator was introduced to be used in this situation. So
in .NET 2 you'd write

SWF::Form

instead, which is no longer ambiguous. The "global" alias is nothing
more than a default alias for the topmost namespace and can't be used in
any other context, as the other posters already said.
Oliver Sturm
--
omnibus ex nihilo ducendis sufficit unum
Spaces inserted to prevent google email destruction:
MSN oliver @ sturmnet.org Jabber sturm @ amessage.de
ICQ 27142619 http://www.sturmnet.org/blog

[MarkT [developmentor]]

One final (minor) point....

MSDN on the "::" operator says that it
is placed between two identifiers

Note that is says "identifier " and not "keyword".

Technically, global is not a keyword (neither are get, set, value, partial,
alias, add, remove, where, yield).

[Octavio Hernandez]

Javaman,

Researching on this topic I've found that there is already an official
standard for C# 2.0:

http://www.ecma-international.org/pu...s/Ecma-334.htm

Of course it fully describes the usage of the '::' operator and the 'global'
identifier.

Thanks and best regards - Octavio

"Javaman59" <Ja*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:0B******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Thanks Octavio for answering my question. I had a quick look at the
article
too, and it does say the "::" is valid as a prefix (ie. your code should
compile). Maybe someone was hoping that c++ style "::" would return, but
Microsoft eventually decided against it :). I'm glad, too, because I
always
found that dangling "::" confusing - "global::" is much cleareer!

- Javaman

"Octavio Hernandez" wrote:

Richard,

Thanks for your correction.
Actually I did that check, referring to a MSDN Magazine I always
considered
excellent:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/is...0/default.aspx

Maybe the article is little bit old and specs have changed since then?

Regards - Octavio

"Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]" <ri******@NOSPA Mdevelop.com> escribió
en
el mensaje news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..

> You should probably check before you post. Your code will not compile -
> thats a C++ construct. There is a global keyword in C# v2 and it always
> goes together with :: to indicate global scope of the type.
>
> global::System. Windows.Forms.M essageBox.Show( "foo");
>
> Regards
>
> Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
> http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk/weblog
> http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk
>
> Javaman,
>
> AFAIK, there's no "global" keyword in c# 2.0. You only use the operator
> '::'
> to indicate the compiler to start the search from the 'outest' scope:
>
> namespace A {
> namespace System {
> class X {
> public void Message(string s)
> {
> ::System.Window s.Forms.Message Box.Show(s); // '::' needed here
> }
> }
> }
> }
>
> Regards - Octavio
>
>
> "Javaman59" <Ja*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> escribi? en el
> mensaje
> news:76******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
> >I saw in a recent post the :: operator used to reach the global
> >namespace,
> >as
> > in
> >
> > global::MyNames pace
> >
> > I hadn't seen this before, so looked it up in MSDN, which explained
> > it
> > nicely. My question is, do "global" and "::" always go together? Is
> > there
> > any
> > other use for these operators, than as a pair?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Javaman
>
>
>
> [microsoft.publi c.dotnet.langua ges.csharp]

[Javaman59]

Thanks Mark. That is actually very helpful, and worth remembering. Now I know
why I couldn't find "global keyword" in the help index.

- Javaman

"MarkT [developmentor]" wrote:

One final (minor) point....

MSDN on the "::" operator says that it
is placed between two identifiers

Note that is says "identifier " and not "keyword".

Technically, global is not a keyword (neither are get, set, value, partial,
alias, add, remove, where, yield).