anyone trying out the beta? I have a few questions

[Jason Shohet]

I'm using the new SqlDataSource successfully. Just for reference, here's my
code:

asp:SqlDataSour ce ID="ds" Runat="server" SelectCommand=" SELECT
employee_ssno, firstname, lastname FROM employee_temp order by lastname"
ConnectionStrin g="<%$ ConnectionStrin gs:AppConnectio nString1 %>"
ProviderName="S ystem.Data.OleD b" UpdateCommand=" UPDATE DBOWEB.EMPLOYEE _TEMP
SET firstname=?, lastname=? WHERE employee_ssno=? "> </asp:SqlDataSour ce>

Q1: That 1 updatecommand above takes care of the select, the update, the
delete... everything it seems. Anyhow, I can't figure out how to specify
that the firstname & lastname fields above be lowercase. Its not like its a
regular Oracle query where i can use the Lower function in the select
statement. This is a parameterized query using OLEDB. Any ideas how to
get a field to display lower case?

Q2: dumb question. I'd like web services to handle a lot of the querying,
that way they can be used across multiple applications etc. I assume that
you can NOT use sqlDataSource in a web service? We've tried it, but can't
get it to work. In asp.net 1.0 we have a web service return a dataset and
have a datagrid use that dataset as its source. In asp.net 2.0, whats the
way to go in regards to passing a result set back from a web service, and
having the gridview consume it? I'm not sure what to do.

Q3: the dumbest question. Is the .net 2.0 framework available so I can put
it on our test deployment server? I mean, I'm ready to go live with an
application and I'm not sure where to get the framework to put on the
windows2003 server. Right now it only has 1.1, which comes w/ 2003.

TY! Jason Shohet

[Nicholas Paldino [.NET/C# MVP]]

Jason,

Why not? Why can't you do this:

<asp:SqlDataSou rce ID="ds" Runat="server" SelectCommand=" SELECT
employee_ssno, lower(firstname ) as firstname, lower(lastname) as
lastname
FROM employee_temp order by lastname"
ConnectionStrin g="<%$ ConnectionStrin gs:AppConnectio nString1 %>"
ProviderName="S ystem.Data.OleD b" UpdateCommand=" UPDATE
DBOWEB.EMPLOYEE _TEMP
SET firstname=lower (?), lastname=lower( ?) WHERE employee_ssno=? ">
</asp:SqlDataSour ce>

If the back end is SQL server (or a language that supports it), then it
should be just fine. You might have to specify an insert and a delete
statement as well so the SqlDataSource doesn't guess at what those commands
should be (and would probably be thrown off because of the call to lower as
well). The provider for OLEDB is just going to do substitution, not change
the syntax of your query.

As for #2, you can do it using the SqlDataSource. Just create a new
instance, and set the appropriate properties. You might find it easier to
just use the classes in the System.Data namespace though. The reason for
the SqlDataSource in .NET is so that you can declare your data source in the
markup for ASP.NET.

.NET 2.0 is in beta right now, so you are assuming a degree of risk in
placing it into production on an application server. You have to decide if
it works for you. If you have a MSDN universal subscription, then you
should have access to the betas, otherwise, I'm not sure how you can get a
hold of them.

Hope this helps.
--
- Nicholas Paldino [.NET/C# MVP]
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"Jason Shohet" <__******@yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..

I'm using the new SqlDataSource successfully. Just for reference, here's
my code:

asp:SqlDataSour ce ID="ds" Runat="server" SelectCommand=" SELECT
employee_ssno, firstname, lastname FROM employee_temp order by lastname"
ConnectionStrin g="<%$ ConnectionStrin gs:AppConnectio nString1 %>"
ProviderName="S ystem.Data.OleD b" UpdateCommand=" UPDATE
DBOWEB.EMPLOYEE _TEMP SET firstname=?, lastname=? WHERE employee_ssno=? ">
</asp:SqlDataSour ce>

Q1: That 1 updatecommand above takes care of the select, the update, the
delete... everything it seems. Anyhow, I can't figure out how to specify
that the firstname & lastname fields above be lowercase. Its not like its
a regular Oracle query where i can use the Lower function in the select
statement. This is a parameterized query using OLEDB. Any ideas how to
get a field to display lower case?

Q2: dumb question. I'd like web services to handle a lot of the
querying, that way they can be used across multiple applications etc. I
assume that you can NOT use sqlDataSource in a web service? We've tried
it, but can't get it to work. In asp.net 1.0 we have a web service return
a dataset and have a datagrid use that dataset as its source. In asp.net
2.0, whats the way to go in regards to passing a result set back from a
web service, and having the gridview consume it? I'm not sure what to do.

Q3: the dumbest question. Is the .net 2.0 framework available so I can
put it on our test deployment server? I mean, I'm ready to go live with
an application and I'm not sure where to get the framework to put on the
windows2003 server. Right now it only has 1.1, which comes w/ 2003.

TY! Jason Shohet

[Willy Denoyette [MVP]]

Please use microsoft.priva te.whidbey newsgroups you to post v2.0 Beta
questions.
Your question relates to both - microsoft.priva te.whidbey.aspn et.general and
microsoft.priva te.whidbey.adod otnet.

Willy.
"Jason Shohet" <__******@yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..

I'm using the new SqlDataSource successfully. Just for reference, here's
my code:

asp:SqlDataSour ce ID="ds" Runat="server" SelectCommand=" SELECT
employee_ssno, firstname, lastname FROM employee_temp order by lastname"
ConnectionStrin g="<%$ ConnectionStrin gs:AppConnectio nString1 %>"
ProviderName="S ystem.Data.OleD b" UpdateCommand=" UPDATE
DBOWEB.EMPLOYEE _TEMP SET firstname=?, lastname=? WHERE employee_ssno=? ">
</asp:SqlDataSour ce>

Q1: That 1 updatecommand above takes care of the select, the update, the
delete... everything it seems. Anyhow, I can't figure out how to specify
that the firstname & lastname fields above be lowercase. Its not like its
a regular Oracle query where i can use the Lower function in the select
statement. This is a parameterized query using OLEDB. Any ideas how to
get a field to display lower case?

Q2: dumb question. I'd like web services to handle a lot of the
querying, that way they can be used across multiple applications etc. I
assume that you can NOT use sqlDataSource in a web service? We've tried
it, but can't get it to work. In asp.net 1.0 we have a web service return
a dataset and have a datagrid use that dataset as its source. In asp.net
2.0, whats the way to go in regards to passing a result set back from a
web service, and having the gridview consume it? I'm not sure what to do.

Q3: the dumbest question. Is the .net 2.0 framework available so I can
put it on our test deployment server? I mean, I'm ready to go live with
an application and I'm not sure where to get the framework to put on the
windows2003 server. Right now it only has 1.1, which comes w/ 2003.

TY! Jason Shohet

[Jason Shohet]

Willy maybe you could help me access that ng. I tried to add a server
called 'microsoft.priv ate.whidbey' but no such server exists.... Right now
the server I'm accessing is msnews.microsof t.com

TY

[Willy Denoyette [MVP]]

Check this:
http://communities.microsoft.com/new...y&amp;slcid=us

here you will find all info needed to access the whidbey NG's.

Willy.
"Jason Shohet" <__******@yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:eL******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...

Willy maybe you could help me access that ng. I tried to add a server
called 'microsoft.priv ate.whidbey' but no such server exists.... Right
now the server I'm accessing is msnews.microsof t.com

TY