I know that sometimes referring to controls deep in a page using a Master
Page can be funky.
For a website using a standard header/footer/nav, do you prefer using User
Controls for the common items, or do you prefer Master Pages?
What is best from your experience? I've downloaded a few sample projects
(like for the Telerik Rad Controls) and have noticed that they like to use
User Controls.
What are the pros/cons of each?
Thanks.
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I am using user controls for the header and the footer. Master pages, with
all their convenience, certainly do introduce an extra level of complexity.
There are many issues and considerations related to them. I use them for
specific purposes when I anticipate that they can cover significant
functionality. Header and footer are often general for all pages and don't
usually include any reach functionality.
--
Eliyahu Goldin,
Software Developer
Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET] http://msmvps.com/blogs/egoldin http://usableasp.net
"Cirene" <ci****@nowhere .comwrote in message
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>I know that sometimes referring to controls deep in a page using a Master
Page can be funky.
For a website using a standard header/footer/nav, do you prefer using User
Controls for the common items, or do you prefer Master Pages?
What is best from your experience? I've downloaded a few sample projects
(like for the Telerik Rad Controls) and have noticed that they like to use
User Controls.
What are the pros/cons of each?
Thanks.
"Cirene" <ci****@nowhere .comwrote in message
news:ew******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...
>I know that sometimes referring to controls deep in a page using a Master
Page can be funky.
For a website using a standard header/footer/nav, do you prefer using User
Controls for the common items, or do you prefer Master Pages?
What is best from your experience? I've downloaded a few sample projects
(like for the Telerik Rad Controls) and have noticed that they like to use
User Controls.
What are the pros/cons of each?
In addition to Eliyahu's response, MasterPages are actually UserControls
anyway... There is often a misconception (not aimed at you) that MasterPages
are somehow the ASP.NET implementation of framesets - nothing could be
further from the truth...
Eliyahu is also correct in that MasterPages do introduce a certain level of
complexity, but it's not exactly rocket science... :-)
IMO, MasterPages were one of the major innovations in ASP.NET 2, and I
personally never use anything else for common layout.
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
On 20 mayo, 06:22, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <m...@markNOSPA Mrae.netwrote:
"Cirene" <cir...@nowhere .comwrote in message
news:ew******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...
I know that sometimes referring to controls deep in a page using a Master
Page can be funky.
For a website using a standard header/footer/nav, do you prefer using User
Controls for the common items, or do you prefer Master Pages?
What is best from your experience? *I've downloaded a few sample projects
(like for the Telerik Rad Controls) and have noticed that they like to use
User Controls.
What are the pros/cons of each?
In addition to Eliyahu's response, MasterPages are actually UserControls
anyway... There is often a misconception (not aimed at you) that MasterPages
are somehow the ASP.NET implementation of framesets - nothing could be
further from the truth...
Eliyahu is also correct in that MasterPages do introduce a certain level of
complexity, but it's not exactly rocket science... :-)
IMO, MasterPages were one of the major innovations in ASP.NET 2, and I
personally never use anything else for common layout.
IMHO
Master pages are not really user control. It's really hard to debug on
user control but master page.
I hate to disagree with you, but Mark is right - according to Microsoft,
Masterpages become implementations of User controls on the pages
David Wier http://aspnet101.com http://iWritePro.com - One click PDF, convert .doc/.rtf/.txt to HTML with no
bloated markup
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On 20 mayo, 06:22, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <m...@markNOSPA Mrae.netwrote:
"Cirene" <cir...@nowhere .comwrote in message
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<snip>
In addition to Eliyahu's response, MasterPages are actually UserControls
anyway...
<snip>
IMO, MasterPages were one of the major innovations in ASP.NET 2, and I
personally never use anything else for common layout.
IMHO
Master pages are not really user control. It's really hard to debug on
user control but master page.
I agree with David.
MasterPage class is derived from System.Web.UI.U serControl as opposed to
System.Web.UI.P age.
--
Madhur http://blogs.msdn.com/mahuja
"David Wier" <dw@dw.comwro te in message
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>I hate to disagree with you, but Mark is right - according to Microsoft,
Masterpages become implementations of User controls on the pages
David Wier
http://aspnet101.com
http://iWritePro.com - One click PDF, convert .doc/.rtf/.txt to HTML with
no bloated markup
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On 20 mayo, 06:22, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <m...@markNOSPA Mrae.netwrote:
>"Cirene" <cir...@nowhere .comwrote in message
news:ew******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP03.phx.gbl.. .
<snip>
>In addition to Eliyahu's response, MasterPages are actually UserControls
anyway...
<snip>
>IMO, MasterPages were one of the major innovations in ASP.NET 2, and I
personally never use anything else for common layout.
IMHO
Master pages are not really user control. It's really hard to debug on
user control but master page.
"jc" <jc*********@ya hoo.eswrote in message
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IMHO
MasterPages are not really UserControl.
That's incorrect. A MasterPage most certainly is a UserControl. In fact, all
MasterPages by default inherit from the UserControl class: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...asterpage.aspx
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
Yes and no.
Technically, yes, master pages are user controls. But from development
pattern perspective they are very different. Typically, regular user
controls address one well-defined and limited task whereas master pages are
commonly used as a base for building the whole page with much richer markup
and code-behind. Perhaps that's why many developers don't perceive master
pages as user controls.
--
Eliyahu Goldin,
Software Developer
Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET] http://msmvps.com/blogs/egoldin http://usableasp.net
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>IMHO
MasterPages are not really UserControl.
That's incorrect. A MasterPage most certainly is a UserControl. In fact,
all MasterPages by default inherit from the UserControl class:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...asterpage.aspx
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
"Eliyahu Goldin" <RE************ **************@ mMvVpPsS.orgwro te in
message news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>IMHO
MasterPages are not really UserControl.
That's incorrect. A MasterPage most certainly is a UserControl. In fact,
all MasterPages by default inherit from the UserControl class:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...asterpage.aspx
Technically, yes, master pages are user controls.
There's no need to go any further... :-)
Perhaps that's why many developers don't perceive master pages as user
controls.
Nevertheless that's what they are, regardless of how many developers
perceive them....
Lots of developers, especially beginners, perceive MasterPages as
framesets - that doesn't mean they're framesets.
In fact, it's been my experience that once developers realise that
MasterPages are precisely UserControls, then their understanding of what
they are and how to use them increases dramatically...
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
re:
!MasterPage class is derived from System.Web.UI.U serControl as opposed to System.Web.UI.P age.
The UserControl, Page and MasterPage classes all are subclasses of System.Web.UI.
See : http://quickstarts.asp.net/QuickStar...=System.Web.UI
When an HTTP request is made for a page at run time, the master page and content
pages are combined into a single class with the same name as the content pages.
The *resulting* compiled, merged class derives from the Page class.
The MasterPage class derives (inherits, actually) from Control,
and is last in a chain which includes Control, TemplateControl and UserControl:
Here's the inheritance hierarchy for the MasterPage class :
System..::.Obje ct
System.Web.UI.. ::.Control
System.Web.UI.. ::.TemplateCont rol
System.Web.UI.. ::.UserControl
System.Web.UI.. ::.MasterPage
The master page is initialized as the top control in a page’s control hierarchy by
clearing the page’s Controls array and adding the master page to the Control collection.
The master page initialization happens after the PreInit event
fires for a Page object, but before the Init event fires.
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
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>I agree with David.
MasterPage class is derived from System.Web.UI.U serControl as opposed to System.Web.UI.P age.
--
Madhur
http://blogs.msdn.com/mahuja
"David Wier" <dw@dw.comwro te in message news:eu******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...
>>I hate to disagree with you, but Mark is right - according to Microsoft, Masterpages become implementations of User
controls on the pages
David Wier
http://aspnet101.com
http://iWritePro.com - One click PDF, convert .doc/.rtf/.txt to HTML with no bloated markup
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On 20 mayo, 06:22, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <m...@markNOSPA Mrae.netwrote:
>>"Cirene" <cir...@nowhere .comwrote in message
news:ew****** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
<snip>
>>In addition to Eliyahu's response, MasterPages are actually UserControls
anyway...
<snip>
>>IMO, MasterPages were one of the major innovations in ASP.NET 2, and I
personally never use anything else for common layout.
IMHO
Master pages are not really user control. It's really hard to debug on
user control but master page.
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