asp.net web matrix

[Kenneth Windish]

Hi,

I wrote a simple web application using web matrix. When I run it on my local
computer all works fine, but when I run it on hosting site all hyperlinks
are not working and just postback to the original page. I have rechecked the
links and they are set right, & work on local computer, but not on hosted
site. I have noticed that when you mouse over the link on local host the
adress shows like javascript:WebF orm_dopostbackw ithoptions(new
webform_postbac koptions("linkb utton1","",fals e,"","support.a spx") but on the
hosting site the adress shows javascript:
_dopostback('li nkbutton1',"). Any ideas??
TIA
Ken

[Jon Paal]

What's appears to be wrong is mixing ASP.net 2.0 with ASP.net 1.1.

Webmatrix is a development tool that helps you write code, but is designed to develop code for version 1.1 You can type in anything
though including code that is supposed to be used for version 2.0 only.

You are using the linkbutton feature called "Postbackur l", which a new 2.0 feature. You may have ASP.net 2.0 installed on your
machine but the webhost apparently not have it installed on their machine so that feature will not work.

verify your webhost has 2.0 installed and working

"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...

Hi,

What I am saying is why even have a link button if it can't link to anything in the real world only in a test environment on your
local computer?
Thats what seems like a waste.

Ken
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...

It's no waste. It's just the way it is.
You can't do it with ASP.NET 1.1. Period.

You *can* do it with ASP.NET 2.0.

Look into using Response.Redire ct, if you want to use 1.1.

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:e9******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...

Hi,

Thanks for responding.

You mean that I can write web pages that work fine when run from my local computer with the web matrix server, but they won't
work when placed on a hosting server?
Seems like a big waste.

Ken

"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message news:%2******** **********@TK2M SFTNGP15.phx.gb l...
re:
> is the syntax for the postback url correct?

You can't get there from here.

One of the biggest differences between ASP and ASP.NET
is that in ASP.NET, a Web Form must post back to itself instead
of posting to a different page.

Historically, developers posted to a different page by setting the form's
action attribute. Posting to a separate page used to be a good idea
because it made for a cleaner separation of code from HTML.

Now, because ASP.NET handles events in the same Web Form in
which they're raised, the form must post back to the same page.

Even if you set the action attribute of the form to a different page,
the Web server finds the runat="server" attribute setting and
overrides your action value.


Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..
> Hi,
>
> I have found that the reason this is happing is that the other forms are not being found. the following is the code for a
> link:
> <asp:linkbutt on id="linkbutton1 " runat="server"
> postbackurl="su pport.aspx">Sup port</asp:linkbutton>
>
> is the syntax for the bostback url correct?
>
> all web forms on the server are in wwwroot directory as is the main index
> page.
>
> Are web forms in the right directory?
>
> TIA
>
> Ken
>
> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:uD******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wrote a simple web application using web matrix. When I run it on my local computer all works fine, but when I run it on
>> hosting site all hyperlinks are not working and just postback to the original page. I have rechecked the links and they are
>> set right, & work on local computer, but not on hosted site. I have noticed that when you mouse over the link on local host
>> the adress shows like javascript:WebF orm_dopostbackw ithoptions(new
>> webform_postbac koptions("linkb utton1","",fals e,"","support.a spx") but on the hosting site the adress shows javascript:
>> _dopostback('li nkbutton1',"). Any ideas??
>>
>>
>> TIA
>> Ken
>>
>
>

[Jon Paal]

It would be nice if it supported both, since a button can be used inside a form as well as outside a form. this might be a bit
redundant but should help to be a bit more relevant to the relative usage.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message news:uU******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...

Hi, Kenneth.

I found your input so interesting that I submitted a suggestion
at the Microsoft Product Feedback Center, asking that they
rename "postbackur l" to "navigateur l", like the Hyperlink.

You may want to support the suggestion by voting for it.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/produc...5-32df70cfd903

Thanks!

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:um******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...

Hi,

Thanks for your info. Not really sure what the button is linking, or how that link works, but I now realize that what I should
have been using was a hyperlink instead of a linkbutton.

Thanks for your input.

Ken
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Oz******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...

Kenneth,

we have a semantics issue here in that the
"postbackur l" attribute is badly named.

You *can* use the linkbutton to *link* to a different page.
You cannot use it to *post* the page it's on to another page.

"postbackur l" should be named something else to prevent confusion.

If the attribute's name was "linkurl" like this example :
<asp:linkbutt on id="linkbutton1 " runat="server"
linkurl="suppor t.aspx">Support </asp:linkbutton>

it wouldn't confuse anyone.

I hope that makes the issue clearer to you ( and others ).


Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,

What I am saying is why even have a link button if it can't link to anything in the real world only in a test environment on
your local computer?
Thats what seems like a waste.

Ken
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...
> It's no waste. It's just the way it is.
> You can't do it with ASP.NET 1.1. Period.
>
> You *can* do it with ASP.NET 2.0.
>
> Look into using Response.Redire ct, if you want to use 1.1.
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
> =============== =============== ========
> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:e9******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for responding.
>>
>> You mean that I can write web pages that work fine when run from my local computer with the web matrix server, but they won't
>> work when placed on a hosting server?
>> Seems like a big waste.
>>
>> Ken
>
>> "Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message news:%2******** **********@TK2M SFTNGP15.phx.gb l...
>>> re:
>>>> is the syntax for the postback url correct?
>>>
>>> You can't get there from here.
>>>
>>> One of the biggest differences between ASP and ASP.NET
>>> is that in ASP.NET, a Web Form must post back to itself instead
>>> of posting to a different page.
>>>
>>> Historically, developers posted to a different page by setting the form's
>>> action attribute. Posting to a separate page used to be a good idea
>>> because it made for a cleaner separation of code from HTML.
>>>
>>> Now, because ASP.NET handles events in the same Web Form in
>>> which they're raised, the form must post back to the same page.
>>>
>>> Even if you set the action attribute of the form to a different page,
>>> the Web server finds the runat="server" attribute setting and
>>> overrides your action value.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
>>> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
>>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
>>> =============== =============== ========
>>> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have found that the reason this is happing is that the other forms are not being found. the following is the code for a
>>>> link:
>>>> <asp:linkbutt on id="linkbutton1 " runat="server"
>>>> postbackurl="su pport.aspx">Sup port</asp:linkbutton>
>>>>
>>>> is the syntax for the bostback url correct?
>>>>
>>>> all web forms on the server are in wwwroot directory as is the main index
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>> Are web forms in the right directory?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message news:uD******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote a simple web application using web matrix. When I run it on my local computer all works fine, but when I run it on
>>>>> hosting site all hyperlinks are not working and just postback to the original page. I have rechecked the links and they
>>>>> are set right, & work on local computer, but not on hosted site. I have noticed that when you mouse over the link on
>>>>> local host the adress shows like javascript:WebF orm_dopostbackw ithoptions(new
>>>>> webform_postbac koptions("linkb utton1","",fals e,"","support.a spx") but on the hosting site the adress shows javascript:
>>>>> _dopostback('li nkbutton1',"). Any ideas??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Juan T. Llibre]

Thanks, Jon.

It would be nice if it really *posted*
to a different page in ASP.NET 2.0.

Let's see what the feedback to the suggestion is.

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Jon Paal" <Jon nospam Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..

It would be nice if it supported both, since a button can be used inside a form as well
as outside a form. this might be a bit redundant but should help to be a bit more
relevant to the relative usage.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:uU******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...

Hi, Kenneth.

I found your input so interesting that I submitted a suggestion
at the Microsoft Product Feedback Center, asking that they
rename "postbackur l" to "navigateur l", like the Hyperlink.

You may want to support the suggestion by voting for it.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/produc...5-32df70cfd903

Thanks!

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:um******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...

Hi,

Thanks for your info. Not really sure what the button is linking, or how that link
works, but I now realize that what I should have been using was a hyperlink instead of
a linkbutton.

Thanks for your input.

Ken
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Oz******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
Kenneth,

we have a semantics issue here in that the
"postbackur l" attribute is badly named.

You *can* use the linkbutton to *link* to a different page.
You cannot use it to *post* the page it's on to another page.

"postbackur l" should be named something else to prevent confusion.

If the attribute's name was "linkurl" like this example :
> <asp:linkbutt on id="linkbutton1 " runat="server"
> linkurl="suppor t.aspx">Support </asp:linkbutton>

it wouldn't confuse anyone.

I hope that makes the issue clearer to you ( and others ).


Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> What I am saying is why even have a link button if it can't link to anything in the
> real world only in a test environment on your local computer?
> Thats what seems like a waste.
>
> Ken
> "Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...
>> It's no waste. It's just the way it is.
>> You can't do it with ASP.NET 1.1. Period.
>>
>> You *can* do it with ASP.NET 2.0.
>>
>> Look into using Response.Redire ct, if you want to use 1.1.
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
>> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
>> =============== =============== ========
>> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:e9******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for responding.
>>>
>>> You mean that I can write web pages that work fine when run from my local computer
>>> with the web matrix server, but they won't work when placed on a hosting server?
>>> Seems like a big waste.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>
>>> "Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%2******** **********@TK2M SFTNGP15.phx.gb l...
>>>> re:
>>>>> is the syntax for the postback url correct?
>>>>
>>>> You can't get there from here.
>>>>
>>>> One of the biggest differences between ASP and ASP.NET
>>>> is that in ASP.NET, a Web Form must post back to itself instead
>>>> of posting to a different page.
>>>>
>>>> Historically, developers posted to a different page by setting the form's
>>>> action attribute. Posting to a separate page used to be a good idea
>>>> because it made for a cleaner separation of code from HTML.
>>>>
>>>> Now, because ASP.NET handles events in the same Web Form in
>>>> which they're raised, the form must post back to the same page.
>>>>
>>>> Even if you set the action attribute of the form to a different page,
>>>> the Web server finds the runat="server" attribute setting and
>>>> overrides your action value.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
>>>> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
>>>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
>>>> =============== =============== ========
>>>> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found that the reason this is happing is that the other forms are not
>>>>> being found. the following is the code for a link:
>>>>> <asp:linkbutt on id="linkbutton1 " runat="server"
>>>>> postbackurl="su pport.aspx">Sup port</asp:linkbutton>
>>>>>
>>>>> is the syntax for the bostback url correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> all web forms on the server are in wwwroot directory as is the main index
>>>>> page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are web forms in the right directory?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uD******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote a simple web application using web matrix. When I run it on my local
>>>>>> computer all works fine, but when I run it on hosting site all hyperlinks are
>>>>>> not working and just postback to the original page. I have rechecked the links
>>>>>> and they are set right, & work on local computer, but not on hosted site. I
>>>>>> have noticed that when you mouse over the link on local host the adress shows
>>>>>> like javascript:WebF orm_dopostbackw ithoptions(new
>>>>>> webform_postbac koptions("linkb utton1","",fals e,"","support.a spx") but on the
>>>>>> hosting site the adress shows javascript:
>>>>>> _dopostback('li nkbutton1',"). Any ideas??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Kenneth Windish]

Hi,

Thanks for the info. I will check webhost. Problem was solved by changing
linkbuttons w/hyperlinks. Not being that fimilar with the whole web thing I
confused the two.

Ken
"Jon Paal" <Jon nospam Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..

What's appears to be wrong is mixing ASP.net 2.0 with ASP.net 1.1.

Webmatrix is a development tool that helps you write code, but is designed
to develop code for version 1.1 You can type in anything though including
code that is supposed to be used for version 2.0 only.

You are using the linkbutton feature called "Postbackur l", which a new 2.0
feature. You may have ASP.net 2.0 installed on your machine but the
webhost apparently not have it installed on their machine so that feature
will not work.

verify your webhost has 2.0 installed and working

"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...

Hi,

What I am saying is why even have a link button if it can't link to
anything in the real world only in a test environment on your local
computer?
Thats what seems like a waste.

Ken
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:uJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP14.phx.gbl...

It's no waste. It's just the way it is.
You can't do it with ASP.NET 1.1. Period.

You *can* do it with ASP.NET 2.0.

Look into using Response.Redire ct, if you want to use 1.1.

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== ========
"Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:e9******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...
Hi,

Thanks for responding.

You mean that I can write web pages that work fine when run from my
local computer with the web matrix server, but they won't work when
placed on a hosting server?
Seems like a big waste.

Ken

"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%2******** **********@TK2M SFTNGP15.phx.gb l...
> re:
>> is the syntax for the postback url correct?
>
> You can't get there from here.
>
> One of the biggest differences between ASP and ASP.NET
> is that in ASP.NET, a Web Form must post back to itself instead
> of posting to a different page.
>
> Historically, developers posted to a different page by setting the
> form's
> action attribute. Posting to a separate page used to be a good idea
> because it made for a cleaner separation of code from HTML.
>
> Now, because ASP.NET handles events in the same Web Form in
> which they're raised, the form must post back to the same page.
>
> Even if you set the action attribute of the form to a different page,
> the Web server finds the runat="server" attribute setting and
> overrides your action value.
>
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
> =============== =============== ========
> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have found that the reason this is happing is that the other forms
>> are not being found. the following is the code for a link:
>> <asp:linkbutt on id="linkbutton1 " runat="server"
>> postbackurl="su pport.aspx">Sup port</asp:linkbutton>
>>
>> is the syntax for the bostback url correct?
>>
>> all web forms on the server are in wwwroot directory as is the main
>> index
>> page.
>>
>> Are web forms in the right directory?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> "Kenneth Windish" <ke************ @netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:uD******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wrote a simple web application using web matrix. When I run it on
>>> my local computer all works fine, but when I run it on hosting site
>>> all hyperlinks are not working and just postback to the original
>>> page. I have rechecked the links and they are set right, & work on
>>> local computer, but not on hosted site. I have noticed that when
>>> you mouse over the link on local host the adress shows like
>>> javascript:WebF orm_dopostbackw ithoptions(new
>>> webform_postbac koptions("linkb utton1","",fals e,"","support.a spx")
>>> but on the hosting site the adress shows javascript:
>>> _dopostback('li nkbutton1',"). Any ideas??
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Ken
>>>
>>
>>
>
>