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I have used nearly every version of ACT for more than 15-years.
Currently have 5,000 records in one database and the program seems
unable to smoothly handle that many. Am starting a new business that
will have perhaps 20,000 records and considering ACCESS (although I
dread the learning curve).

Does anyone have experience comparing the two? Does anyone know how
VISTA will interface w ith each?

Steve Agins
(ag***@aginscom .com)

Jan 4 '07 #1
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I used Act a few times and I seem to recall at least one version used
an Access back end.

Act is pretty complex, but a good programmer should be able to
duplicate its functionality and "customize" it for you. I wouldn't
attempt it yourself unless you know what you're doing.

ag***@aginscom. com wrote:
I have used nearly every version of ACT for more than 15-years.
Currently have 5,000 records in one database and the program seems
unable to smoothly handle that many. Am starting a new business that
will have perhaps 20,000 records and considering ACCESS (although I
dread the learning curve).

Does anyone have experience comparing the two? Does anyone know how
VISTA will interface w ith each?

Steve Agins
(ag***@aginscom .com)
Jan 4 '07 #2
ag***@aginscom. com wrote in
news:11******** **************@ i15g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com:
I have used nearly every version of ACT for more than 15-years.
Currently have 5,000 records in one database and the program seems
unable to smoothly handle that many. Am starting a new business
that will have perhaps 20,000 records and considering ACCESS
(although I dread the learning curve).

Does anyone have experience comparing the two? Does anyone know
how VISTA will interface w ith each?
ACT is a complete application for contact management with a lot of
good features and integration with its own word processing and
templating system, as well as email and the like.

Access is just a database application development platform. You'd
have to recreate everything that ACT already does.

What is it in ACT that is the problem? The amount of data?

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Jan 4 '07 #3
On 4 Jan 2007 12:02:40 -0800, "ManningFan " <ma********@gma il.com>
wrote:

I know someone on the Act! development team. The app is decidedly
non-trivial. You could not rewrite it in a year. Nor would you want
to, if you can buy it for $300 or some such.
There is no evidence the average developer can do better than the Act!
team did with regards to number of records and performance.

-Tom.

>I used Act a few times and I seem to recall at least one version used
an Access back end.

Act is pretty complex, but a good programmer should be able to
duplicate its functionality and "customize" it for you. I wouldn't
attempt it yourself unless you know what you're doing.

ag***@aginscom .com wrote:
>I have used nearly every version of ACT for more than 15-years.
Currently have 5,000 records in one database and the program seems
unable to smoothly handle that many. Am starting a new business that
will have perhaps 20,000 records and considering ACCESS (although I
dread the learning curve).

Does anyone have experience comparing the two? Does anyone know how
VISTA will interface w ith each?

Steve Agins
(ag***@aginsco m.com)
Jan 5 '07 #4
On 4 Jan 2007 06:19:19 -0800, ag***@aginscom. com wrote:

Your confusing a few things. Vista is an operating system. Act! will
work just fine on it, and you can bet the Act! developers are already
working on a new version that will make it even smoother.

You should not try to rewrite Act! in Access. Act! is a great product
with considerable depth, and you could not rewrite it if you took a
year, maybe not in 5 years. Pay your $300 (or whatever it is
nowadays) and enjoy the product. If you have special requirements,
read up on the Act! SDK.

-Tom.

>I have used nearly every version of ACT for more than 15-years.
Currently have 5,000 records in one database and the program seems
unable to smoothly handle that many. Am starting a new business that
will have perhaps 20,000 records and considering ACCESS (although I
dread the learning curve).

Does anyone have experience comparing the two? Does anyone know how
VISTA will interface w ith each?

Steve Agins
(ag***@aginsco m.com)
Jan 5 '07 #5
Tom -
Act! isn't THAT complex. I can, and have, rewritten it to be
business specific and have done so in about 2 months. That includes
testing, adding functionality and re-testing. If it takes you 5 years
to recreate that product, you're best to look for another career.

Tom van Stiphout wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 06:19:19 -0800, ag***@aginscom. com wrote:

Your confusing a few things. Vista is an operating system. Act! will
work just fine on it, and you can bet the Act! developers are already
working on a new version that will make it even smoother.

You should not try to rewrite Act! in Access. Act! is a great product
with considerable depth, and you could not rewrite it if you took a
year, maybe not in 5 years. Pay your $300 (or whatever it is
nowadays) and enjoy the product. If you have special requirements,
read up on the Act! SDK.

-Tom.
Jan 5 '07 #6
ManningFan wrote:
Tom -
Act! isn't THAT complex. I can, and have, rewritten it to be
business specific and have done so in about 2 months. That includes
testing, adding functionality and re-testing. If it takes you 5 years
to recreate that product, you're best to look for another career.
Over many years, Tom van Stiphout has demonstrated, through his
postings here, a top notch level of expertise in MS-Access and other
technologies which interact with MS-Access.

After a few more years, you may establish the same strength of
reputation but, TTBOMK you have not yet done so. I think the post to
which I am replying is unlikely to help with that.

I expect that applications created by Tom are complete, strong and
efficient. Perhaps that's why he indicates that a long time would be
required to emulate ACT. I do not know, for I do not know ACT. I do
know that I would give his opinion every consideration and that if he
says, "Five years", I am inclined to think, "This will be challenging
and require a lot of work".

Jan 5 '07 #7
Well, I don't know Tom well at all but I do know you have a habit of
stalking my posts, so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt.

All I know is, I've done it and I'll freely admit I'm far from the most
knowledgeable coder here. It's simply a contacts database, and if you
know how to set up your tables properly it's not very difficult to
recreate. I'm currently working on a database for a group of auditors
which is exponentially more complex, and the bulk of it was done in
just about 7 weeks.

Lyle Fairfield wrote:
ManningFan wrote:
Tom -
Act! isn't THAT complex. I can, and have, rewritten it to be
business specific and have done so in about 2 months. That includes
testing, adding functionality and re-testing. If it takes you 5 years
to recreate that product, you're best to look for another career.

Over many years, Tom van Stiphout has demonstrated, through his
postings here, a top notch level of expertise in MS-Access and other
technologies which interact with MS-Access.

After a few more years, you may establish the same strength of
reputation but, TTBOMK you have not yet done so. I think the post to
which I am replying is unlikely to help with that.

I expect that applications created by Tom are complete, strong and
efficient. Perhaps that's why he indicates that a long time would be
required to emulate ACT. I do not know, for I do not know ACT. I do
know that I would give his opinion every consideration and that if he
says, "Five years", I am inclined to think, "This will be challenging
and require a lot of work".
Jan 5 '07 #8
ManningFan wrote:
you have a habit of
stalking my posts
I can't imagine why you feel that way; I've always tried to restrict my
post stalking to those displaying egregious stupidity and/or
misinformation.

Jan 5 '07 #9
So you admit you're a stalker? Nice.

Lyle Fairfield wrote:
>
I can't imagine why you feel that way; I've always tried to restrict my
post stalking to those displaying egregious stupidity and/or
misinformation.
Jan 5 '07 #10

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