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Visual Basic class any help for learning VBA

I am not sure which would be the best place to post this question, so I'm
posing it here with Access general questions. I have reached the point many
times in Word and in Access where my ignorance of VBA is a real detriment to
me. I saw some posts about VBA classes with a particular vendor and the
poster was advised not to take the class because of the likelihood of an
unskilled trainer.

My question is, would taking a Visual Basic class be of any assistance to me
or is that really a very different animal from VBA? Several people mentioned
buying VBA books but I find that I'm not disciplined enough to just sit and
read that type of book.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Ann

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"Ann Scharpf via AccessMonster.c om" <u16643@uwe> wrote in message
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I am not sure which would be the best place to post this question, so I'm
posing it here with Access general questions. I have reached the point
many
times in Word and in Access where my ignorance of VBA is a real detriment
to
me. I saw some posts about VBA classes with a particular vendor and the
poster was advised not to take the class because of the likelihood of an
unskilled trainer.

My question is, would taking a Visual Basic class be of any assistance to
me
or is that really a very different animal from VBA? Several people
mentioned
buying VBA books but I find that I'm not disciplined enough to just sit
and
read that type of book.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Ann

It is pretty much the same thing - especially when you are just beginning.
In fact, if you are taking a beginner's course it shouldn't really make much
difference - the first steps of how to dimension variables, write subs and
functions, code loops and ifs, thens, etc will all be the same.
However, there may be some visual basic programmers who never do much work
with databases or Word documents so that although the langauge is 95% the
same, the focus is different. In this newsgroup, people ask about forms,
subforms, retrieving and updating data and in the Word newsgroups they ask
about documents, mailmerges, etc. In other words you could choose to focus
your programming skills on a number of different areas.
Mar 13 '06 #2
It won't hurt you. VBA is a subset of Visual Basic, many of the
commands, programming constructs, etc will be the same.

However, getting a pure VBA class, or book will help you with Access
specific things that you may be trying to do for your employer. There
are classes for Access out there, you can purchase and/or rent videos
that cover all aspects of Access development, Keystone has some good
ones. There are also a LOT of free resources on the Internet, where
you can find well written code examples and tutorials that will give
you real world scenarios that you can modify for your own projects.

Purely my .02 on the matter, if you email me directly, I would be happy
to provide the links to some of these resources.

Sincerely,

mksnyder
Ann Scharpf via AccessMonster.c om wrote:
I am not sure which would be the best place to post this question, so I'm
posing it here with Access general questions. I have reached the point many
times in Word and in Access where my ignorance of VBA is a real detriment to
me. I saw some posts about VBA classes with a particular vendor and the
poster was advised not to take the class because of the likelihood of an
unskilled trainer.

My question is, would taking a Visual Basic class be of any assistance to me
or is that really a very different animal from VBA? Several people mentioned
buying VBA books but I find that I'm not disciplined enough to just sit and
read that type of book.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Ann

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Mar 13 '06 #3
Thanks to both of you who answered my post. I appreciate your input.

I would love to email you directly about the net resources you mention, but I
don't see an address. Mine is

ann dot scharpf at dfas dot mil

mksnyder wrote:
It won't hurt you. VBA is a subset of Visual Basic, many of the
commands, programming constructs, etc will be the same.

However, getting a pure VBA class, or book will help you with Access
specific things that you may be trying to do for your employer. There
are classes for Access out there, you can purchase and/or rent videos
that cover all aspects of Access development, Keystone has some good
ones. There are also a LOT of free resources on the Internet, where
you can find well written code examples and tutorials that will give
you real world scenarios that you can modify for your own projects.

Purely my .02 on the matter, if you email me directly, I would be happy
to provide the links to some of these resources.

Sincerely,

mksnyder
I am not sure which would be the best place to post this question, so I'm
posing it here with Access general questions. I have reached the point many

[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]

Ann


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Mar 14 '06 #4
Personally (and I'm speaking as a past applications trainer who did teach
VBA) I believe that there isn't much to be gained from training courses
unless you already know a bit before you go.

A college course is a different kettle of fish as they tend to take place
over a number of weeks and allow the lecturer to set the foundations at each
stage before moving on.

I personally learnt to program by attending evening classes at my local
college and learnt VBA for Access by using the wizards and seeing how they
did things and then extended that by use of the VBA help file (mainly).

You've got to remember that VBA means Visual Basic for Applications, it's a
programming language which is based on VB but has extensions for the
particular application you are programming against, so although there are
broad areas where VBA for Access overlaps with VBA for Word, there are also
extensive parts where they don't match up.

The important thing with any programming language is to first of all learn
how to program then you can worry about how a particular language works.

By learning "how to program" I mean learn the three basics which apply to
all programming languages i.e. sequence, selection and iteration, once
you've got that it's simply a matter of finding how the particular language
you are learning applies those principles and you're well on your way.
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"Ann Scharpf via AccessMonster.c om" <u16643@uwe> wrote in message
news:5d368b447c c89@uwe...
I am not sure which would be the best place to post this question, so I'm
posing it here with Access general questions. I have reached the point many times in Word and in Access where my ignorance of VBA is a real detriment to me. I saw some posts about VBA classes with a particular vendor and the
poster was advised not to take the class because of the likelihood of an
unskilled trainer.

My question is, would taking a Visual Basic class be of any assistance to me or is that really a very different animal from VBA? Several people mentioned buying VBA books but I find that I'm not disciplined enough to just sit and read that type of book.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Ann

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Mar 14 '06 #5
Previously when I searched the net for VBA classes, I didn't find any good
hits. This time I searched for VBA ACCESS TUTORIAL and found the following
site. It looks very useful and, unlike many web pages of this type, is
formatted very well for printing. I'm making myself a little manual right
now as a starting point.

http://www.functionx.com/vbaccess/index.htm

mksnyder wrote:
Purely my .02 on the matter, if you email me directly, I would be happy
to provide the links to some of these resources.

Sincerely,

mksnyder


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Mar 14 '06 #6
Ann Scharpf via AccessMonster.c om wrote:
Previously when I searched the net for VBA classes, I didn't find any good
hits. This time I searched for VBA ACCESS TUTORIAL and found the following
site. It looks very useful and, unlike many web pages of this type, is
formatted very well for printing. I'm making myself a little manual right
now as a starting point.

http://www.functionx.com/vbaccess/index.htm

mksnyder wrote:
Purely my .02 on the matter, if you email me directly, I would be happy
to provide the links to some of these resources.

Sincerely,

mksnyder


Clarification please. It appears that the VBA tutorials is only
available for purchase - correct?

Bob
Mar 14 '06 #7
No. There is a for purchase version and then there are 23 detailed lessons;
each is a separate htm file. There is some advertising on the page but I
didn't find it to be too intrusive.. I printed all the free lessons. They
range from 4 pages - 32 pages per lesson. Printed double-sided, the
materials filled a 1/2" ring binder.

Here are the lesson topics that I printed:

1.*Introduction to VB Access
2.*Objects and Collections
3.*Data Types and Variables
4.*DAO, ADO, ADOX, and SQL
5.*Procedures and Functions
6.*Conditional Statements
7.*Error Handling
8.*The Tables of a Database
9.*The Columns of a Table
10. The Forms of an Application
11. The Windows Controls of a Form
12. The Records of a Database
13. Details on Data Entry
14. Data Entry and Built-In Functions
15. The Queries of a Database
16. Printing
17. Relationships and Data Integrity
18. Data Joins
19. Details on Creating Queries
20. Data Analysis
21. Using Queries
22. Introduction to Record Sets
23. Data Views and Stored Procedures

The purchase version has some unspecified "extra materials" and costs $22.
Bob Alston wrote:
Previously when I searched the net for VBA classes, I didn't find any good
hits. This time I searched for VBA ACCESS TUTORIAL and found the following

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mksnyder


Clarificatio n please. It appears that the VBA tutorials is only
available for purchase - correct?

Bob


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> http://www.functionx.com/vbaccess/index.htm

The persons who wrote this are neither stupider nor less capable than a
bucket of rocks.

Mar 14 '06 #9
I know nothing about VBA and am trying to teach myself from scratch. Do you
have a better resource to recomment?

Lyle Fairfield wrote:
http://www.functionx.com/vbaccess/index.htm


The persons who wrote this are neither stupider nor less capable than a
bucket of rocks.


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