Where are A97 command button pictures stored?

[MLH]

If I choose a command button on a form in design view,
open the properties box and click the Picture property
and its wiz button, I'm presented with a lengthy list of
pictures. Everything from Add Table, Address Book,
Airplane to Underline, Undo, Undo (Rewind). I would
like to know where they are stored. I thought it might be
c:\program files\microsoft office\office\b itmaps but I
don't think so.

Anybody know where they are stored and if more bitmaps
can be added?

[CDMAPoster]

MLH wrote:

If I choose a command button on a form in design view,
open the properties box and click the Picture property
and its wiz button, I'm presented with a lengthy list of
pictures. Everything from Add Table, Address Book,
Airplane to Underline, Undo, Undo (Rewind). I would
like to know where they are stored. I thought it might be
c:\program files\microsoft office\office\b itmaps but I
don't think so.

Anybody know where they are stored and if more bitmaps
can be added?

I think the icons used for Access 97 are stored in one of the dll's.

James A. Fortune
CD********@Fort uneJames.com

[deko]

> If I choose a command button on a form in design view,

open the properties box and click the Picture property
and its wiz button, I'm presented with a lengthy list of
pictures. Everything from Add Table, Address Book,
Airplane to Underline, Undo, Undo (Rewind). I would
like to know where they are stored. I thought it might be
c:\program files\microsoft office\office\b itmaps but I
don't think so.

Anybody know where they are stored and if more bitmaps
can be added?

What you see in the Picture Builder dialog is stored in a DLL and cannot be
modified. The icon selection is not the greatest, to be sure.

I found a program called Icon Maker (no endorsement, just a tool I've used)
that will retrieve all the icons from all the various DLLs and EXEs on your
system and let you customize and save them as a .ico (or just make your own
icons from scratch).

http://www.icon-maker.com/

To use a .ico stored on disk, you'll need to modify the control's property
sheet so the Picture property is the full path to where the icon is located,
and set the Picture Type property to "Linked". You can programmaticall y set
the Picture path if you need to.

At least this is true for AC03 - not sure about AC97.

[MLH]

You must be right. I cannot find separate files for any of them.

[Randy Harris]

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If I choose a command button on a form in design view,
open the properties box and click the Picture property
and its wiz button, I'm presented with a lengthy list of
pictures. Everything from Add Table, Address Book,
Airplane to Underline, Undo, Undo (Rewind). I would
like to know where they are stored. I thought it might be
c:\program files\microsoft office\office\b itmaps but I
don't think so.

Anybody know where they are stored and if more bitmaps
can be added?
What you see in the Picture Builder dialog is stored in a DLL and cannot

be modified. The icon selection is not the greatest, to be sure.

I found a program called Icon Maker (no endorsement, just a tool I've used) that will retrieve all the icons from all the various DLLs and EXEs on your system and let you customize and save them as a .ico (or just make your own icons from scratch).

http://www.icon-maker.com/

To use a .ico stored on disk, you'll need to modify the control's property
sheet so the Picture property is the full path to where the icon is located, and set the Picture Type property to "Linked". You can programmaticall y set the Picture path if you need to.

At least this is true for AC03 - not sure about AC97.

True enough, but if you are distributing the app, you wouldn't want to have
to include icon files. I prefer to embed the icon on the command buttons
where needed.

There are a number freeware programs that will extract icons, in addition to
the one mentioned above. I use one called Icon Ripper. Also another
freeware called IconEdit, which makes it easy to edit them.

--
Randy Harris
tech at promail dot com
I'm pretty sure I know everything that I can remember.

[deko]

> True enough, but if you are distributing the app, you wouldn't want to

have
to include icon files. I prefer to embed the icon on the command buttons
where needed.

I tried embedding them but couldn't get it to work. When the app was opened
on the client machine, the button had no icon. So I just put the icons in
the same location as the database, which is easy enough to find with code.
If the user moves the database around without moving the icons, well, that's
a billable call...

[CDMAPoster]

Randy Harris wrote:

to include icon files. I prefer to embed the icon on the command buttons
where needed.

Ahh... I was thinking of new toolbar images. Don't forget that you're
not limited only to icon images for command buttons:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9be8a6b757a694

I have one command button with a mushroom-shaped cloud:
Picture: C:\Nuke.bmp
Picture Type: Embedded
ControlTip Text: Nuke

Even though MS has been expanding the pixel dimensions of icon files
they're still more limited than BMP's.

James A. Fortune
CD********@Fort uneJames.com

[deko]

> Randy Harris wrote:

to include icon files. I prefer to embed the icon on the command buttons
where needed.

Ahh... I was thinking of new toolbar images. Don't forget that you're
not limited only to icon images for command buttons:

I have one command button with a mushroom-shaped cloud:
Picture: C:\Nuke.bmp
Picture Type: Embedded
ControlTip Text: Nuke

Even though MS has been expanding the pixel dimensions of icon files
they're still more limited than BMP's.

True, but if you embed a bunch of BMPs you're increasing the size of the
database. With 1k icons, there's no performance difference between Linked
and Embedded, which is likely with a large linked BMP. And linked icons can
be changed without recompiling - and you can test for their existence. So I
could give my MDE app a new look just be distributing a new set of icons.

If fact, this has got me thinking - could I change the background color of a
form by pointing its Picture property to a solid colored icon? With an MDB,
I can programmaticall y open a form in design mode and change the background
color, but this is not possible with an MDE. And usually the first question
I'm asked is "how do I change the color"?

[Rick Brandt]

deko wrote:

Randy Harris wrote:

to include icon files. I prefer to embed the icon on the command
buttons where needed.

Ahh... I was thinking of new toolbar images. Don't forget that
you're not limited only to icon images for command buttons:

I have one command button with a mushroom-shaped cloud:
Picture: C:\Nuke.bmp
Picture Type: Embedded
ControlTip Text: Nuke

Even though MS has been expanding the pixel dimensions of icon files
they're still more limited than BMP's.

True, but if you embed a bunch of BMPs you're increasing the size of
the database. With 1k icons, there's no performance difference
between Linked and Embedded, which is likely with a large linked BMP.
And linked icons can be changed without recompiling - and you can
test for their existence. So I could give my MDE app a new look just
be distributing a new set of icons.
If fact, this has got me thinking - could I change the background
color of a form by pointing its Picture property to a solid colored
icon? With an MDB, I can programmaticall y open a form in design mode
and change the background color, but this is not possible with an
MDE. And usually the first question I'm asked is "how do I change
the color"?

You can change the background color of a from in an MDE. The change just won't
persist, but then a change to the background image property wouldn't persist
either. I suppose you could make it persist by changing the name of the bmp
file amongst several of different colors.

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to this message. Send instead to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

[CDMAPoster]

deko wrote:

Randy Harris wrote:

to include icon files. I prefer to embed the icon on the command buttons
where needed.
Ahh... I was thinking of new toolbar images. Don't forget that you're
not limited only to icon images for command buttons:

I have one command button with a mushroom-shaped cloud:
Picture: C:\Nuke.bmp
Picture Type: Embedded
ControlTip Text: Nuke

Even though MS has been expanding the pixel dimensions of icon files
they're still more limited than BMP's.

True, but if you embed a bunch of BMPs you're increasing the size of the
database. With 1k icons, there's no performance difference between Linked
and Embedded, which is likely with a large linked BMP. And linked icons can
be changed without recompiling - and you can test for their existence. So I
could give my MDE app a new look just be distributing a new set of icons.

Yes, I thought about the size factor. Good point. Usually command
buttons aren't very large so that's not a big problem when they're
placed in a 40 Mb mdb. Hmm... your idea about the new look using a new
set of icons for an MDE is interesting and new to me. I'll have to
consider it.

If fact, this has got me thinking - could I change the background color of a
form by pointing its Picture property to a solid colored icon? With an MDB,
I can programmaticall y open a form in design mode and change the background
color, but this is not possible with an MDE. And usually the first question
I'm asked is "how do I change the color"?

I haven't tried that either. It looks like I need to do some
experimenting. Thanks for the ideas.

James A. Fortune
CD********@Fort uneJames.com