are ado questions allowed here?

[MP]

I'm interested to learn how to use mdb files via ado/adox via vb6
Since I'm not using Access are those types of questions o.t. here?
I see very few ado questions here. But there's a lot more traffic here than
the ado groups.
:-)

Thanks
Mark

[Steve Jorgensen]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:47:14 GMT, "MP" <no****@Thanks. com> wrote:

I'm interested to learn how to use mdb files via ado/adox via vb6
Since I'm not using Access are those types of questions o.t. here?
I see very few ado questions here. But there's a lot more traffic here than
the ado groups.
:-)

If it has to do with MDBs or JET, I'd say it's close enough. Ask away.

[Lyle Fairfield]

Sure they are. And sometimes when the Gestado aren't paying attention,
ADO answers are allowed too.

[David W. Fenton]

Steve Jorgensen <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in
news:5o******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:47:14 GMT, "MP" <no****@Thanks. com> wrote:

I'm interested to learn how to use mdb files via ado/adox via vb6
Since I'm not using Access are those types of questions o.t. here?
I see very few ado questions here. But there's a lot more traffic
here than the ado groups.
:-)

If it has to do with MDBs or JET, I'd say it's close enough. Ask
away.

I wouldn't.

Using an MDB from VB is not Access, in any way, shape or form.

But there are likely people who've dealt with the same issues in
Access, so one would likely have a good chance of getting an answer.

But it's important that the questions be asked in a way that makes
it clear that ACCESS is not involved in the question at all.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

[Larry Linson]

"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@ aim.com> wrote

Sure they are. And sometimes when the Gestado
aren't paying attention, ADO answers are
allowed too.

Is this something to do with "Much ADO about nothing?" :-)

I was under the impression that ADO answers were allowed only about the
obsolescent "classic ADO" as supported by various versions of Access, not
about the Microsoft's current ADO.NET software which has succeeded classic
ADO, except in Office.

Larry

[Steve Jorgensen]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:02:37 -0600, "David W. Fenton"
<dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote:

Steve Jorgensen <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in
news:5o******* *************** **********@4ax. com:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:47:14 GMT, "MP" <no****@Thanks. com> wrote:

I'm interested to learn how to use mdb files via ado/adox via vb6
Since I'm not using Access are those types of questions o.t. here?
I see very few ado questions here. But there's a lot more traffic
here than the ado groups.
:-)

If it has to do with MDBs or JET, I'd say it's close enough. Ask
away.

I wouldn't.

Using an MDB from VB is not Access, in any way, shape or form.

But there are likely people who've dealt with the same issues in
Access, so one would likely have a good chance of getting an answer.

But it's important that the questions be asked in a way that makes
it clear that ACCESS is not involved in the question at all.

I disagree that we have to draw rigid lines of any such sort. In fact, the
OP's question and our answers are probably more disruption than if someone
simply asks a question that might be far afield, and someone responds with an
answer or a suggestion to ask another group if it's too far off. It's easier
to work with specifics than hypotheticals.

[David W. Fenton]

Steve Jorgensen <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in
news:fi******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:02:37 -0600, "David W. Fenton"
<dX********@bw ay.net.invalid> wrote:

Steve Jorgensen <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in
news:5o****** *************** ***********@4ax .com:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:47:14 GMT, "MP" <no****@Thanks. com>
wrote:

I'm interested to learn how to use mdb files via ado/adox via
vb6 Since I'm not using Access are those types of questions o.t.here? I see very few ado questions here. But there's a lot moretraffic here than the ado groups.
:-)

If it has to do with MDBs or JET, I'd say it's close enough.
Ask away.
I wouldn't.

Using an MDB from VB is not Access, in any way, shape or form.

But there are likely people who've dealt with the same issues in
Access, so one would likely have a good chance of getting an
answer.

But it's important that the questions be asked in a way that makesit clear that ACCESS is not involved in the question at all.

I disagree that we have to draw rigid lines of any such sort. . .

How many times do we waste time answering a question as though it's
an Access question, when it turns out that Access is not even being
used? I can usually detect that from the form of the question, but
it's often not obvious at all, and I think it would be *very*
helpful if Microsoft would stop confusing things in its
documentation by treating "Access database" as synomous with "Jet
database." There are a whole host of people out there who don't
know
the difference and because of that, think very poorly of Access as
a
product.
. . . In
fact, the OP's question and our answers are probably more
disruption than if someone simply asks a question that might be
far afield, and someone responds with an answer or a suggestion to ask another group if it's too far off. It's easier to work with
specifics than hypotheticals.

Oh, puh-leaze. Four posts is hardly a distraction, especoally in
the
same week when several dozen posts about one persons's sig have
been
quite prominent in the newsgroup.

I think everyone would be better served by maintaining the clear
distinction between Access and Jet.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

[Steve Jorgensen]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:38:25 -0600, "David W. Fenton"
<dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote:

....

How many times do we waste time answering a question as though it's
an Access question, when it turns out that Access is not even being
used? I can usually detect that from the form of the question, but
Ok, that's a valid point.
it's often not obvious at all, and I think it would be *very*
helpful if Microsoft would stop confusing things in its
documentatio n by treating "Access database" as synomous with "Jet
database." There are a whole host of people out there who don't
know
the difference and because of that, think very poorly of Access as
a
product.
That too.

. . . In
fact, the OP's question and our answers are probably more
disruption than if someone simply asks a question that might be
far afield, and someone responds with an answer or a suggestionto

ask another group if it's too far off. It's easier to work with
specifics than hypotheticals.

Oh, puh-leaze. Four posts is hardly a distraction, especoally in the
same week when several dozen posts about one persons's sig have been
quite prominent in the newsgroup.

That was not to suggest that this thread is a disruption, but that a single
off-topic question with a simple redirection as a response is even less so.
As you pointed out above, that would presume that the communication actually
is that efficient, which is not necessarily so.
I think everyone would be better served by maintaining the clear
distinction between Access and Jet.

Yes, but it would also be a shame to waste the concentration of JET knowledge
here, including a lot of ADO/JET knowledge, just because ADO and non-Access
cleints are dogmatically deemed off-topic. We'd rather have people first ask
a question about whether the question they're -going- to ask is off topic,
whithout even knowing what their specific question will be?

[David W. Fenton]

Steve Jorgensen <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in
news:9f******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:38:25 -0600, "David W. Fenton"
<dX********@bw ay.net.invalid> wrote:

[]

I think everyone would be better served by maintaining the clear
distinction between Access and Jet.

Yes, but it would also be a shame to waste the concentration of
JET knowledge here, including a lot of ADO/JET knowledge, just
because ADO and non-Access cleints are dogmatically deemed
off-topic. We'd rather have people first ask a question about
whether the question they're -going- to ask is off topic, whithout
even knowing what their specific question will be?

Steve, did you actually read the whole of my original response in
this thread?

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

[MP]

"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote in message

I think everyone would be better served by maintaining the clear
distinction between Access and Jet.

Gentlemen,
I have watched with interest the answers to my orig question.
Thank you all for your consideration.
I will continue lurking here as I can learn quite a bit from information
which are of a general sql query nature,
rather than specifically about Access objects/forms etc.
I will try to restrict my ado/Jet questions to one of the two ado groups I
have available on my newsserver.
Thanks,
Mark