Fingerprint identification.

[Roel Melchers]

My ACCESS-database contains all members of my association.

When the members attend to a meeting I want to record their presence.

When they enter they identify themselves by putting their finger on a
fingerprint reader.
When they leave, they do the same.

But...
how to set up the software to connect de fingerprint reader to the
database.

Tx

Roel Melchers (Netherlands)

[cliopia]

how to set up the software to connect de fingerprint reader to the
database.

Look at the software or documentation which came with your fingerprint
reader. I've had experience with bar code scanners where the scan
triggered an event which Access responded to. Maybe your fingerprint
reader works the same way.

Good luck.

[Steve]

Roel,

I second Cliopia's suggestion!

Could you please share the website for your fingerprint reader.

Thanks,

Steve
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My ACCESS-database contains all members of my association.

When the members attend to a meeting I want to record their presence.

When they enter they identify themselves by putting their finger on a
fingerprint reader.
When they leave, they do the same.

But...
how to set up the software to connect de fingerprint reader to the
database.

Tx

Roel Melchers (Netherlands)

[Tony Toews]

Roel Melchers <ME***@KNMG.N L> wrote:

When the members attend to a meeting I want to record their presence.

When they enter they identify themselves by putting their finger on a
fingerprint reader.
When they leave, they do the same.

FWIW I would never put my finger on a fingerprint reader unless 1) I use it on my own
systems or 2) compelled to by the police or border police.

Tony
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[dkintheuk]

So much paranioa, so little time to relish it...

<rant>
What exactly is wrong with using a fingerprint recognition system for
managing attendees to a course. I t has an amazing amount of advantages
including fire safety as you know exactly who is in the building.

Don't spout on about "privacy", there is none in this country anyway!
If he keeps your fingerprints on file then what is the problem? Unless
you are a crook, i suppose, and don't want to be spotted by anyone. But
then it is only crooks that need to be invisible.

Personally i like the idea of being able to prove who i am using
biometrics.
</rant>

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[jimfortune]

dkintheuk wrote:

Don't spout on about "privacy", there is none in this country anyway!
If he keeps your fingerprints on file then what is the problem? Unless you are a crook, i suppose, and don't want to be spotted by anyone. But then it is only crooks that need to be invisible.

I disagree. What if billions of fingerprints are on file and somehow
one of the fingerprints at a major crime happens to be pretty close to
one of yours? In the U.S. it's tough to prove your innocence once they
think you might be guilty. Without your fingerprints on file this
nightmare cannot happen. I agree that there are some advantages to
being able to prove who you are.

James A. Fortune

[Darryl Kerkeslager]

"dkintheuk" <rm*******@fire net.uk.com> wrote

What exactly is wrong with using a fingerprint recognition system for
managing attendees to a course.
My DNA, my fingerprint, my medical information - all of it - is mine. It is
my property, mine to 'spend' as I see fit. It is valuable - isn't that what
Identity Theft is all about? - and it is precious to me. It is not
something to be taken away cheaply or lightly, when there are so many
acceptable methods of recognition that already exist.
I t has an amazing amount of advantages
including fire safety as you know exactly who is in the building.
What is so amazing about knowing who is in the building? Won't the fireman
save me anyway? Isn't a head count all the information you really need for
the fireman - does my race, ethnicity, name, age, and SSN matter to the
fireman? Come up with a real example.
Don't spout on about "privacy", there is none in this country anyway!
In the countries where freedom was so limited just 20 years ago by the
Soviet secret police, where lack of privacy walked hand-in-hand with lack of
freedom, where would they be today if they spoke so, "Don't spout on about
'freedom', there is none in this country anyway!"
If he keeps your fingerprints on file then what is the problem? Unless
you are a crook, i suppose, and don't want to be spotted by anyone. But
then it is only crooks that need to be invisible.
This is stated so much like the clichéd, "only criminals would want guns",
that I almost suspect it's a joke. Do you trust your government completely?
Do you not understand that governments are composed of people, and that no
Congressman, no police chief, no CIA operative, no FBI agent, nor even to
the best of my knowledge, any bureaucrat, has ever been declared a saint by
the Holy Roman Catholic Church? Who is it that you trust with all you
knowledge - your father? Your mother? How about me? It could be me, you
know, who has access to all your information.
Personally i like the idea of being able to prove who i am using
biometrics.

This must be a joke. You didn't even sign this newsgroup posting! Such a
brave and open man (woman?)!

Now, if you had just signed into your computer and therefore the Internet
with your fingerprint ...
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[Tony Toews]

"dkintheuk" <rm*******@fire net.uk.com> wrote:

So much paranioa, so little time to relish it...

<smile> Yup, I'm quite paranoid.

Tony
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[dkintheuk]

It's funny. I'd have thought that it would have been obvious that i'm
known as DK as my post is headed as being written by DKINTHEUK - also
hinting that i'm in the UK.

Listen - i was being a bit superfluous but the point about identify
theft is a bit wierd. If you do a fingerprint check, you just have to
check for a pulse. The point the chap in the first post was getting at
was all to do with ease of people management at a conference facility.

The fire saftey aspect is a real one. I am a volunteer fire safety
officer in the building i work in and it would be of enourmous use to
know who is still in the building when there is a fire. I for one would
not want to be ignored because a rough head count proved to be
insufficient to know that there was someone missing.

So i guess that your method for proving who you are is going be the
fact that you know your name, have a passport with your name and can
sign your name... am i missing something here, such as the enourmous
amount of identify fraud that relies on knowing those very things. I've
worked in Fraud Control in telecoms for something like 14 years and i
can tell you for a fact that identity fraud needs very simple
information to be successful. If you can think of a better way of
proving identity then you'll be a rich man.

We now just got full Chip and PIN services at our shops in the UK -
better security but someone can still know my PIN number, better still,
something that they can't steal like my fingerprint - or even better
iris print and fingerprint together...

Call me an idiot if you like but criminals are really the only ones
with something to hide... and yes I live in a country where for the
most part only criminals would want guns... so i guess i'm just lucky.

Oh by the way, the next part is my signature...

Rob McGregor

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[Darryl Kerkeslager]

"dkintheuk" <rm*******@fire net.uk.com> wrote

The fire saftey aspect is a real one. I am a volunteer fire safety
officer in the building i work in and it would be of enourmous use to
know who is still in the building when there is a fire. I for one would
not want to be ignored because a rough head count proved to be
insufficient to know that there was someone missing.
An exact head count, with ID card check, still does not require fingerprint
identification. My identifiers are my property. My fingerprints are my
property. There is no conference that I would want to go to that would be
worth that. You talk of selling you identification as if it was a bowl of
soup.
So i guess that your method for proving who you are is going be the
fact that you know your name, have a passport with your name and can
sign your name... am i missing something here, such as the enourmous
amount of identify fraud that relies on knowing those very things.
I have never had a problem proving who I am. I am in scant danger of having
my physical identification stolen - I'd put it at exactly the same chance
that I have of being robbed and my wallet taken. The danger to me comes
from the thefts at ChoicePoint, or any other theft that may take place at
AOL (well, I'm actually at no risk there), or Equifax, or Experian, or my
bank, or my credit card company, etc. My one little identity, though
invaluable to me, is petty cash to theives. Placing my data in with a
million others makes it as attractive a target as a bank is to conventional
bank robbers.
I've
worked in Fraud Control in telecoms for something like 14 years and i
can tell you for a fact that identity fraud needs very simple
information to be successful. If you can think of a better way of
proving identity then you'll be a rich man.
Better than fingerprints? Oh sure, take my DNA. A swab of DNA takes just a
few seconds, and with a few more scientists and some extra funding, all of
our DNA could be categorized. Now that would be better, wouldn't it?
We now just got full Chip and PIN services at our shops in the UK -
better security but someone can still know my PIN number, better still,
something that they can't steal like my fingerprint - or even better
iris print and fingerprint together...
Ugh! Sure, your point is a great and valid point that we now have the
technology to biometrically ID any and everyone. But don't you see any
potential for abuse? Any?
Call me an idiot if you like but criminals are really the only ones
with something to hide... and yes I live in a country where for the
most part only criminals would want guns... so i guess i'm just lucky.
And only criminals will be foxhunters, too. You see, your country has just
created a whole new criminal class, and now has a 'legitimate' purpose in
tracking the criminals, registering their prints, and entering them into the
national database.

This is the most worrisome argument. The trend here in the States is
towards criminalizing more and more offenses. Thus, more and more people
become 'petty criminals'. So every year, the government has a 'compelling
national interest' in tracking more and more people - be they DUI offenders,
fox hunters, or gays who tried to illegally marry. Remember, government
defines what a crime is, not the behavior.
Call me an idiot if you like but criminals are really the only ones
with something to hide

I won't call you an idiot - but it seems that you failed to consider my
earlier point: governments are made up of people, and people routinely abuse
power - over their children, their spouses, their employees, and certainly
over the regular citizens who must be controlled by the bureaucracy. If you
are so willing to give up your information to a government, then you are in
fact willing to give it up to the thousands of civil servants who sill have
access to your every move, and that of your wife, and your children.
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Darryl Kerkeslager
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Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Knowledge is power.
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