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Terminal Server: Enough included w/MSDN?

I'd like to dabble in Terminal Server enough to see if I can get some of my MS
Access apps to run through it.

I've got the MSDN subscription. Is there enough there for a real-world
implementation?
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PeteCresswell
Nov 13 '05 #1
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Pete Cresswell,
I run an Access .adp connected to SQL Server 2000 through Terminal Services
on my server and have no problems. If you plan on supporting more than a
couple concurrent users you have to make sure Terminal Services is in
Application Server mode and buy the appropriate licenses, but other than
that, you should be fine. And, yes, guys, I know that I could connect to my
SQL Server instance over port 1433 and don't need Terminal Services but I am
a poor Access developer and even worse Systems Admin.

"(Pete Cresswell)" <x@y.z> wrote in message
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I'd like to dabble in Terminal Server enough to see if I can get some of my MS Access apps to run through it.

I've got the MSDN subscription. Is there enough there for a real-world
implementation?
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PeteCresswell

Nov 13 '05 #2
Alan Webb wrote:
And, yes, guys, I know that I could connect to my
SQL Server instance over port 1433 and don't need Terminal Services but I am
a poor Access developer and even worse Systems Admin.


Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all and
sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it *will* be
hacked.

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Nov 13 '05 #3
> Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all and
sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it *will* be
hacked.


I don't even know what port 1433 is.... but could it be open by
default on a PC that's running SQL Server/Developer? The PC that has
that on it seems to attract a steady stream of SQL Server Worm
Propogation attempts.
Nov 13 '05 #4
PeteCresswell wrote:
Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all and
sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it *will* be
hacked.

I don't even know what port 1433 is.... but could it be open by
default on a PC that's running SQL Server/Developer? The PC that has
that on it seems to attract a steady stream of SQL Server Worm
Propogation attempts.


Port 1433 is what SQL server uses so yes. I trust your PC is firewalled?

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Nov 13 '05 #5
Go**********@Fa tBelly.com (PeteCresswell) wrote in
news:74******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com:
Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all
and sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it
*will* be hacked.
I don't even know what port 1433 is.... but could it be open by
default on a PC that's running SQL Server/Developer? . . .


One of the problems there is that many users don't know SQL Server
is running. If you install the MSDE you might have port 1433 wide
open.
. . . The PC that
has that on it seems to attract a steady stream of SQL Server Worm
Propogation attempts.


It accepts connections from outside your local network?

Your firewall doesn't block port 1433 at the network boundary?

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Nov 13 '05 #6
Trevor Best <nospam@localho st> wrote:
And, yes, guys, I know that I could connect to my
SQL Server instance over port 1433 and don't need Terminal Services but I am
a poor Access developer and even worse Systems Admin.


Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all and
sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it *will* be
hacked.


I've read this elsewhere as well. But if you have the latest patches installed, and
assuming there aren't unknown exploits out there, how can it hurt? Please be more
specific.

Thanks, Tony
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Nov 13 '05 #7
"Tony Toews" <tt****@teluspl anet.net> wrote in message
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Trevor Best <nospam@localho st> wrote:
And, yes, guys, I know that I could connect to my
SQL Server instance over port 1433 and don't need Terminal Services but I am a poor Access developer and even worse Systems Admin.
Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all and
sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it *will* be
hacked.


I've read this elsewhere as well. But if you have the latest patches

installed, and assuming there aren't unknown exploits out there, how can it hurt? Please be more specific.


I've often wondered about this myself. The conventional wisdom seems to
be...

1) If you need real security use a database engine like SQL Server instead
of Jet.
2) Don't leave your SQL Server port exposed or you'll get hacked.

One of the above statements must be wrong, no?
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Nov 13 '05 #8
Rick Brandt, et al.
To get back to the point--Terminal Services seems fine as a means of working
with Access databases across a network. For those that really want to go
whole hog and make sure the server being connected to behaves as if it was
connected to an actual PC, Virtual PC is a great product that takes the
Terminal Services idea much further and emulates a complete PC in software.
As for doing it the more typical way and letting SQL Server answer on port
1433 to db client software--that would require a dba & sys admin that
actually knew what they were doing--something I've yet to become.

"Rick Brandt" <ri*********@ho tmail.com> wrote in message
news:2m******** ****@uni-berlin.de...
"Tony Toews" <tt****@teluspl anet.net> wrote in message
news:cg******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Trevor Best <nospam@localho st> wrote:
> And, yes, guys, I know that I could connect to my
> SQL Server instance over port 1433 and don't need Terminal Services but I am> a poor Access developer and even worse Systems Admin.

Besides which, the last thing you want is port 1433 open to all and
sundry. If it's open on the net, it's not a matter of if, it *will* be
hacked.


I've read this elsewhere as well. But if you have the latest patches

installed, and
assuming there aren't unknown exploits out there, how can it hurt?

Please be more
specific.


I've often wondered about this myself. The conventional wisdom seems to
be...

1) If you need real security use a database engine like SQL Server instead
of Jet.
2) Don't leave your SQL Server port exposed or you'll get hacked.

One of the above statements must be wrong, no?
--
I don't check the Email account attached
to this message. Send instead to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

Nov 13 '05 #9
RE/
Your firewall doesn't block port 1433 at the network boundary?


Dunno if it blocks it or where, but it does appear to catch a lot of what it
calls W32_SQLEXP_Worm _Propogation.

Norton Personal Firewall.
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PeteCresswell
Nov 13 '05 #10

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