I am a newcomer to databases and am not sure which DBMS to use. I have
a very simplified knowledge of databases overall. I would very much
appreciate a (simplifed) message explaining the advantages and
disadvantages of both programs.
Many Thanks
Simon
Nov 12 '05
13  13353 
Well, as far as VFP goes its a dead issue anyway - but the "one big file"
approach in my opinion is ok for the data backend - I've never had a problem
there, but it seems very bad for the front end, where I have had a problem
with corruption. If the front end is going to be large and complicated I
would definitely stay away from Access and look at VB or .NET.
Mike Thomas
"Steve" <st***@nospam.c om> wrote in message
news:3f******** ********@news.w estnet.com... On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:12:14 GMT, "Mike Thomas" <Mi******@Yahoo .com>
wrote:
There are a lot of
things I think are bad about Access: especially the "one big file"
approachwhich I think fosters file corruption and makes it diffuclt to isolate
andrepair and what I think is the sloppiness in the referring to objects.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with storing the data in one big
file. But if that gives one concern, they can always place one table
in a MDB, and then link all the MDBs to a central one. But that is,
IMHO, is clearly an improper approach.
Regarding storing the program objects (e.g. forms, reports, modules,
queries, ...) one should use a seperate MDB. This is a standard
practice in Access development.
SQL Server and other high-end server database engines store all the
data (and triggers, procedures, etc ...) in one big "file".
Steven Zuch
If you've had a problem with corruption, wouldn't it be better to determine
the cause, rather than bagging the product? Lots of folks have big front-end
& do not get corruption.
TC
"Mike Thomas" <Mi******@Yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:4Q******** **************@ newssvr28.news. prodigy.com... Well, as far as VFP goes its a dead issue anyway - but the "one big file"
approach in my opinion is ok for the data backend - I've never had a
problem there, but it seems very bad for the front end, where I have had a problem
with corruption. If the front end is going to be large and complicated I
would definitely stay away from Access and look at VB or .NET.
Mike Thomas
"Steve" <st***@nospam.c om> wrote in message
news:3f******** ********@news.w estnet.com... On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:12:14 GMT, "Mike Thomas" <Mi******@Yahoo .com>
wrote:
There are a lot of
things I think are bad about Access: especially the "one big file" approachwhich I think fosters file corruption and makes it diffuclt to isolate andrepair and what I think is the sloppiness in the referring to objects.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with storing the data in one big
file. But if that gives one concern, they can always place one table
in a MDB, and then link all the MDBs to a central one. But that is,
IMHO, is clearly an improper approach.
Regarding storing the program objects (e.g. forms, reports, modules,
queries, ...) one should use a seperate MDB. This is a standard
practice in Access development.
SQL Server and other high-end server database engines store all the
data (and triggers, procedures, etc ...) in one big "file".
Steven Zuch
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:37:04 GMT, "Mike Thomas" <Mi******@Yahoo .com>
wrote: Well, as far as VFP goes its a dead issue anyway - but the "one big file"
approach in my opinion is ok for the data backend - I've never had a problem
there, but it seems very bad for the front end, where I have had a problem
with corruption. If the front end is going to be large and complicated I
would definitely stay away from Access and look at VB or .NET.
I have never had such problems, and have not heard of such problems
except for the case that the front-end is being shared (e.g. stored on
a server and used by multiple users at the same time). Well, I guess
I have now heard of a problem :)
On the contrary, I have found the front-end, which stores the forms,
reports, queries, and VBA modules, very stable and reliable. Like
most developers, I convert the production front-ends to MDE files.
I have a relatively complex commercial portfolio system, being used by
many hedge funds and a hedge fund administrator. And there are
larger systems (e.g. costing over $100,000) developed with Access
being the front-end. Such systems are extensive and complex, and
clearly are at the same scale as other high-end accounting systems.
There are valid reasons to select VB6 or VB.Net over Access for
development, but corruption is not one of them.
Steven R. Zuch
Cogent Management Inc.
"TC" <a@b.c.d> wrote in news:1069724829 .614179@teuthos : If you've had a problem with corruption, wouldn't it be better
to determine the cause, rather than bagging the product? Lots of
folks have big front-end & do not get corruption.
TC
"Mike Thomas" <Mi******@Yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:4Q******** **************@ newssvr28.news. prodigy.com... Well, as far as VFP goes its a dead issue anyway - but the "one
big file" approach in my opinion is ok for the data backend -
I've never had a
problem there, but it seems very bad for the front end, where I have
had a problem with corruption. If the front end is going to be
large and complicated I would definitely stay away from Access
and look at VB or .NET.
Mike Thomas
"Steve" <st***@nospam.c om> wrote in message
news:3f******** ********@news.w estnet.com... > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:12:14 GMT, "Mike Thomas"
> <Mi******@Yahoo .com> wrote:
>
> >There are a lot of
> >things I think are bad about Access: especially the "one big
> >file"
approach > >which I think fosters file corruption and makes it diffuclt
> >to isolate
and > >repair and what I think is the sloppiness in the referring
> >to objects.
> >
>
> There is absolutely nothing wrong with storing the data in
> one big file. But if that gives one concern, they can always
> place one table in a MDB, and then link all the MDBs to a
> central one. But that is, IMHO, is clearly an improper
> approach.
>
> Regarding storing the program objects (e.g. forms, reports,
> modules, queries, ...) one should use a seperate MDB. This
> is a standard practice in Access development.
>
> SQL Server and other high-end server database engines store
> all the data (and triggers, procedures, etc ...) in one big
> "file".
>
> Steven Zuch
Dolly Parton, for example ;) Personally, I don't have a problem
with OBF method, except that it's not self-maintaining. It grows
and grows until you Compact and Repair it. Seems a little sloppy to
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