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Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/

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Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
Jul 17 '05 #1
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"Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:t9********************@rogers.com...
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/

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I did that one time in the 80's for QuickBasic for the Macintosh.

For us to think that a giant like Microsoft will listen to us is naive to
say the least. Microsoft decision to abort support on a product is based on
lifecycle, demand, and how much money the future is projected to bring in.

Microsoft has a horrible record when it comes to listening to developers'.
One person I knew at MS once told me, "We (MS) drives the development groups
with what we feel their direction should be. Not the other way around."
Arrogant, but true.

Don't get me wrong, I am a die hard VB'er who just can't stand dot net
(because it is so different).

I'll sign. Good luck, but you'll be wasting your time.
Jul 17 '05 #2

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"Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:t9********************@rogers.com...
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/

--


I did that one time in the 80's for QuickBasic for the Macintosh.

For us to think that a giant like Microsoft will listen to us is naive to
say the least. Microsoft decision to abort support on a product is based on
lifecycle, demand, and how much money the future is projected to bring in.

Microsoft has a horrible record when it comes to listening to developers'.
One person I knew at MS once told me, "We (MS) drives the development groups
with what we feel their direction should be. Not the other way around."
Arrogant, but true.

Don't get me wrong, I am a die hard VB'er who just can't stand dot net
(because it is so different).

I'll sign. Good luck, but you'll be wasting your time.
Jul 17 '05 #3

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Randy Birch wrote:
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/


Note that the site sends out a confirmation mail you need to reply to.
Microsoft's HotMail automatically put mine in my junk mail folder. I wonder
if it was deliberate.

Austin
--
You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address

Jul 17 '05 #4

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Randy Birch wrote:
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/


Note that the site sends out a confirmation mail you need to reply to.
Microsoft's HotMail automatically put mine in my junk mail folder. I wonder
if it was deliberate.

Austin
--
You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address

Jul 17 '05 #5

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:58:18 GMT, "Raoul Watson"
<Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote:
"Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:t9********************@rogers.com...
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/

I did that one time in the 80's for QuickBasic for the Macintosh.

For us to think that a giant like Microsoft will listen to us is naive to
say the least. Microsoft decision to abort support on a product is based on
lifecycle, demand, and how much money the future is projected to bring in.

Microsoft has a horrible record when it comes to listening to developers'.
One person I knew at MS once told me, "We (MS) drives the development groups
with what we feel their direction should be. Not the other way around."
Arrogant, but true.

Don't get me wrong, I am a die hard VB'er who just can't stand dot net
(because it is so different).

I'll sign. Good luck, but you'll be wasting your time.


I reason in a similar way that this may indeed be futile.

HOWEVER, wouldn't you rather have /TRIED/ than to have stood by, just
watched and done _nothing_ on behalf of the countless souls who have
poured their time & creative energy into this product?

I appreciate you signing, Raoul!

!! You lurkers: the time to act is NOW! Read. Decide. If you agree,
sign the petition - http://classicvb.org/petition/. If nothing else,
you've _at least_ shown solidarity with the rest of us freemen. We're
NOT nameless Microserfs. Our efforts do have dignity and purpose - and
shouldn't be consigned to the rubbish heap in the endless quest for
bigger profits.
_______________________
Michael B. Johnson
Jul 17 '05 #6

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:58:18 GMT, "Raoul Watson"
<Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote:
"Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:t9********************@rogers.com...
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/

I did that one time in the 80's for QuickBasic for the Macintosh.

For us to think that a giant like Microsoft will listen to us is naive to
say the least. Microsoft decision to abort support on a product is based on
lifecycle, demand, and how much money the future is projected to bring in.

Microsoft has a horrible record when it comes to listening to developers'.
One person I knew at MS once told me, "We (MS) drives the development groups
with what we feel their direction should be. Not the other way around."
Arrogant, but true.

Don't get me wrong, I am a die hard VB'er who just can't stand dot net
(because it is so different).

I'll sign. Good luck, but you'll be wasting your time.


I reason in a similar way that this may indeed be futile.

HOWEVER, wouldn't you rather have /TRIED/ than to have stood by, just
watched and done _nothing_ on behalf of the countless souls who have
poured their time & creative energy into this product?

I appreciate you signing, Raoul!

!! You lurkers: the time to act is NOW! Read. Decide. If you agree,
sign the petition - http://classicvb.org/petition/. If nothing else,
you've _at least_ shown solidarity with the rest of us freemen. We're
NOT nameless Microserfs. Our efforts do have dignity and purpose - and
shouldn't be consigned to the rubbish heap in the endless quest for
bigger profits.
_______________________
Michael B. Johnson
Jul 17 '05 #7

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"AustinMN" <Au*******@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:QL********************@comcast.com...
Randy Birch wrote:
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/
Note that the site sends out a confirmation mail you need to reply to.
Microsoft's HotMail automatically put mine in my junk mail folder. I

wonder if it was deliberate.

Austin
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Yeah.. I am with Verizon.net and didn't even see it. Perhaps it filtered as
spam?
Jul 17 '05 #8

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"AustinMN" <Au*******@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:QL********************@comcast.com...
Randy Birch wrote:
Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/
Note that the site sends out a confirmation mail you need to reply to.
Microsoft's HotMail automatically put mine in my junk mail folder. I

wonder if it was deliberate.

Austin
--


Yeah.. I am with Verizon.net and didn't even see it. Perhaps it filtered as
spam?
Jul 17 '05 #9

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>You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet.
We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...)
Neila

Jul 17 '05 #10

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>You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet.
We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...)
Neila

Jul 17 '05 #11

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On 10 Mar 2005 17:12:51 -0800, ne********@msn.com wrote:
You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet.
We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...)
Neila

Hah, have you ever tried working with Roman 0s ?

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Regards, Frank
Jul 17 '05 #12

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On 10 Mar 2005 17:12:51 -0800, ne********@msn.com wrote:
You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet.
We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...)
Neila

Hah, have you ever tried working with Roman 0s ?

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Regards, Frank
Jul 17 '05 #13

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<ne********@msn.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet.
We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...)
Neila


Beats counting on fingers...

Jul 17 '05 #14

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<ne********@msn.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet.
We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...)
Neila


Beats counting on fingers...

Jul 17 '05 #15

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> > >You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet. We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...) Neila


Beats counting on fingers...


Fingers?!!? You have fingers?!!??!

Jul 17 '05 #16

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> > >You programmed with 1s and 0s? We only had 0s!
There are no X characters in my address..


Lucky you! We didn't even have 0's , the Arabs hadn't come along yet. We got by with sticks and stones (my good old abacci, I miss her so...) Neila


Beats counting on fingers...


Fingers?!!? You have fingers?!!??!

Jul 17 '05 #17

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Especially if you have had your hand chopped off for stealing.
They used to do that ya know? Propaganda has it that some
places still do.
Neila

Jul 17 '05 #18

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Especially if you have had your hand chopped off for stealing.
They used to do that ya know? Propaganda has it that some
places still do.
Neila

Jul 17 '05 #19

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Yeah, but no opposable thumb!

Jul 17 '05 #20

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Yeah, but no opposable thumb!

Jul 17 '05 #21

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How come discussions 'round these parts always seem to degrade into a Python
skit. <LOL>

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Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
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Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/
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<ne********@msn.com> wrote in message
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: Yeah, but no opposable thumb!
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Jul 17 '05 #22

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How come discussions 'round these parts always seem to degrade into a Python
skit. <LOL>

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Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
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Read. Decide. Sign the petition to Microsoft.
http://classicvb.org/petition/
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<ne********@msn.com> wrote in message
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: Yeah, but no opposable thumb!
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Jul 17 '05 #23

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> How come discussions 'round these parts always seem to degrade into a
Python
skit. <LOL>

You've seen a Monty Python skit?!!??! <g>
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Rick - MVP
Sign up now to help keep VB support alive -
http://classicvb.org/petition

Jul 17 '05 #24

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> How come discussions 'round these parts always seem to degrade into a
Python
skit. <LOL>

You've seen a Monty Python skit?!!??! <g>
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Rick - MVP
Sign up now to help keep VB support alive -
http://classicvb.org/petition

Jul 17 '05 #25

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That's just a flesh wound!
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James A. Gayhart
http://www.silverjaguar.com/blog/
What is a k-nig-ht anyway?

<ne********@msn.com> wrote in message
news:11********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegrou ps.com...
Especially if you have had your hand chopped off for stealing.
They used to do that ya know? Propaganda has it that some
places still do.
Neila

Jul 17 '05 #26

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That's just a flesh wound!
--
James A. Gayhart
http://www.silverjaguar.com/blog/
What is a k-nig-ht anyway?

<ne********@msn.com> wrote in message
news:11********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegrou ps.com...
Especially if you have had your hand chopped off for stealing.
They used to do that ya know? Propaganda has it that some
places still do.
Neila

Jul 17 '05 #27

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I have an idea that I'm not sure anyone has suggested. If Microsoft
really is going to abandon VB6.................they should make it
OPEN SOURCE. That would be cool as hell.
Jul 17 '05 #28

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I have an idea that I'm not sure anyone has suggested. If Microsoft
really is going to abandon VB6.................they should make it
OPEN SOURCE. That would be cool as hell.
Jul 17 '05 #29

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:36:36 -0500, Bill Jones <na**@company.com>
wrote:
I have an idea that I'm not sure anyone has suggested. If Microsoft
really is going to abandon VB6.................they should make it
OPEN SOURCE. That would be cool as hell.

Yeah, cool. By the end of the year we'd have 27 different distros.
DLL hell would take on a whole new meaning. 90% of the traffic in this
group would be "What's the best VB distro?" with religious flame wars
wall to wall over the answer. Even with all that, none of them would
work with the latest Windows technology, which is what I really care
about as a developer.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson <usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com>
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/
Jul 17 '05 #30

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:36:36 -0500, Bill Jones <na**@company.com>
wrote:
I have an idea that I'm not sure anyone has suggested. If Microsoft
really is going to abandon VB6.................they should make it
OPEN SOURCE. That would be cool as hell.

Yeah, cool. By the end of the year we'd have 27 different distros.
DLL hell would take on a whole new meaning. 90% of the traffic in this
group would be "What's the best VB distro?" with religious flame wars
wall to wall over the answer. Even with all that, none of them would
work with the latest Windows technology, which is what I really care
about as a developer.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson <usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com>
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/
Jul 17 '05 #31

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:09:05 GMT, "Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson"
<us*****@worldwidewiley.removethis.com> wrote:
Yeah, cool. By the end of the year we'd have 27 different distros.
DLL hell would take on a whole new meaning. 90% of the traffic in this
group would be "What's the best VB distro?" with religious flame wars
wall to wall over the answer. Even with all that, none of them would
work with the latest Windows technology, which is what I really care
about as a developer.
_________________________________________________ ___________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson <usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com>
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.


Funny! Mod up!

Seriously, Microsoft would /NEVER/ commit commercial Hari Kiri this
way.
_______________________
Michael B. Johnson
Jul 17 '05 #32

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:09:05 GMT, "Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson"
<us*****@worldwidewiley.removethis.com> wrote:
Yeah, cool. By the end of the year we'd have 27 different distros.
DLL hell would take on a whole new meaning. 90% of the traffic in this
group would be "What's the best VB distro?" with religious flame wars
wall to wall over the answer. Even with all that, none of them would
work with the latest Windows technology, which is what I really care
about as a developer.
_________________________________________________ ___________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson <usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com>
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.


Funny! Mod up!

Seriously, Microsoft would /NEVER/ commit commercial Hari Kiri this
way.
_______________________
Michael B. Johnson
Jul 17 '05 #33

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Today I got FOUR e-mail stating I have not verified... heh.. I guess the
original got caught in Verizon.net spam trap. So when I retry, and retry,
finally gave up.
Jul 17 '05 #34

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