VB. NET Shared Sub Main()

[andre]

HI,

I’m learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have a
Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).

Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed “The Black Box�
of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I create a
blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I assume
that it’s hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?

Thanks

[Cor Ligthert]

Hi Andre,

Sub Main is an standard part of dotNet.

When it is ommitted as with VBNet in the standard way than that one is taken
in the Form you choose as startup in the properties of your application. It
is not a win32 part.

It is not hidden, you just do not have to use it, however when you want,
feel free to add that class a lot of VBNet programmers are using that as I
have seen.

Cor

I'm learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have a
Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).

Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed "The Black Box"
of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I create a
blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I
assume
that it's hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?

Thanks

[Philip Rieck]

What cor states below isn't exactly correct, or at least, isn't worded
exactly correct. Every .net application requires a managed entry point. (a
"shared sub main")

However, in a windows form application the vb.net compiler will
automatically create one for you if you chose a startup form. If you choose
a form named "Form1", the code it creates is :
<STAThread> _
Public Shared Sub Main()
Application.Run (New Form1)
End Sub

Note that this code is included in your application assembly, currently
pushed into the "Form1" type. So it's as if you had typed that exact code
above into your Form1 class and set Form1.Main as your startup method.

So no, it's not really hidden, it's just conveniently created for you if you
don't write it yourself. I personally write it myself when creating VB.net
winforms apps - it removes any ambiguity when looking at the code (you don't
have to check the project properties to figure out where the app starts),
and I can easily customize the startup code.
-Philip Rieck
http://philiprieck.com/blog/
"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..

Hi Andre,

Sub Main is an standard part of dotNet.

When it is ommitted as with VBNet in the standard way than that one is
taken in the Form you choose as startup in the properties of your
application. It is not a win32 part.

It is not hidden, you just do not have to use it, however when you want,
feel free to add that class a lot of VBNet programmers are using that as I
have seen.

Cor

I'm learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have a
Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).

Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed "The Black Box"
of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I create
a
blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I
assume
that it's hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?

Thanks

[Gerry O'Brien [MVP]]

Just to add what Cor has posted, VB also has a weird quirk whereby if you
create an app, then go into the code module for the Class Form1 and change
the name to something other than Form1, you must then also go into the
project properties and tell if to use the new class name for the form as the
startup form. It assumes that it is still looking for Form1 and can no
longer find that class.

If you do not do this, you will get the error that Sub Main cannot be found.

--
Gerry O'Brien [MVP]
Visual Basic .NET(VB.NET)


"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..

Hi Andre,

Sub Main is an standard part of dotNet.

When it is ommitted as with VBNet in the standard way than that one is
taken in the Form you choose as startup in the properties of your
application. It is not a win32 part.

It is not hidden, you just do not have to use it, however when you want,
feel free to add that class a lot of VBNet programmers are using that as I
have seen.

Cor

I'm learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have a
Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).

Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed "The Black Box"
of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I create
a
blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I
assume
that it's hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?

Thanks

[andre]

Thanks All, I wish VB.net was alittle more like C# where the code is there
for you. Maybe have a check box to show or hide the code for those that don't
want to see it.

André

"Gerry O'Brien [MVP]" wrote:

Just to add what Cor has posted, VB also has a weird quirk whereby if you
create an app, then go into the code module for the Class Form1 and change
the name to something other than Form1, you must then also go into the
project properties and tell if to use the new class name for the form as the
startup form. It assumes that it is still looking for Form1 and can no
longer find that class.

If you do not do this, you will get the error that Sub Main cannot be found.

--
Gerry O'Brien [MVP]
Visual Basic .NET(VB.NET)


"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..

Hi Andre,

Sub Main is an standard part of dotNet.

When it is ommitted as with VBNet in the standard way than that one is
taken in the Form you choose as startup in the properties of your
application. It is not a win32 part.

It is not hidden, you just do not have to use it, however when you want,
feel free to add that class a lot of VBNet programmers are using that as I
have seen.

Cor

I'm learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have a
Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).

Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed "The Black Box"
of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I create
a
blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I
assume
that it's hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?

Thanks

[Dennis]

Does this show up in the code? I can't seem to find it. If I wanted to
write my own main to start the form, where would I put it? Just before the
class name?

"Philip Rieck" wrote:

What cor states below isn't exactly correct, or at least, isn't worded
exactly correct. Every .net application requires a managed entry point. (a
"shared sub main")

However, in a windows form application the vb.net compiler will
automatically create one for you if you chose a startup form. If you choose
a form named "Form1", the code it creates is :
<STAThread> _
Public Shared Sub Main()
Application.Run (New Form1)
End Sub

Note that this code is included in your application assembly, currently
pushed into the "Form1" type. So it's as if you had typed that exact code
above into your Form1 class and set Form1.Main as your startup method.

So no, it's not really hidden, it's just conveniently created for you if you
don't write it yourself. I personally write it myself when creating VB.net
winforms apps - it removes any ambiguity when looking at the code (you don't
have to check the project properties to figure out where the app starts),
and I can easily customize the startup code.
-Philip Rieck
http://philiprieck.com/blog/
"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..

Hi Andre,

Sub Main is an standard part of dotNet.

When it is ommitted as with VBNet in the standard way than that one is
taken in the Form you choose as startup in the properties of your
application. It is not a win32 part.

It is not hidden, you just do not have to use it, however when you want,
feel free to add that class a lot of VBNet programmers are using that as I
have seen.

Cor

I'm learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have a
Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).

Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed "The Black Box"
of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I create
a
blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I
assume
that it's hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?

Thanks

[Philip Rieck]

It doesn't show up in the code - it is injected at compile time, so it
*does* show up in the compiled IL.

If you wanted to do it yourself, you can
1) Create a module and add a "Sub Main" to it

2) Create a class file called something like "Startup.vb " and put this in
it:
Public Class Startup
<STAThread()> _
Public Shared Sub Main()
Application.Run (new Form1)
End Sub
End Class

3) put it in your existing Form1 class (inside the class)
....
Public Class Form1
Inherits System.Windows. Forms.Form

...
<STAThread()> _
Public Shared Sub Main()
Application.Run (new Form1)
End Sub
...
End Class

It doesn't really matter what class it's in, as it's a static (Shared)
method. All you need to do is make sure that it has access to the types and
members you want (Form1 is it in this case). I prefer putting it in a
Startup.cs in c#, or a module in vb.net, but I'm sure not everyone would
agree with me.

--
-Philip Rieck
http://philiprieck.com/blog/

-
"Dennis" <De****@discuss ions.microsoft. com> wrote in message
news:2C******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Does this show up in the code? I can't seem to find it. If I wanted to
write my own main to start the form, where would I put it? Just before
the
class name?

"Philip Rieck" wrote:

What cor states below isn't exactly correct, or at least, isn't worded
exactly correct. Every .net application requires a managed entry point.
(a
"shared sub main")

However, in a windows form application the vb.net compiler will
automatically create one for you if you chose a startup form. If you
choose
a form named "Form1", the code it creates is :
<STAThread> _
Public Shared Sub Main()
Application.Run (New Form1)
End Sub

Note that this code is included in your application assembly, currently
pushed into the "Form1" type. So it's as if you had typed that exact
code
above into your Form1 class and set Form1.Main as your startup method.

So no, it's not really hidden, it's just conveniently created for you if
you
don't write it yourself. I personally write it myself when creating
VB.net
winforms apps - it removes any ambiguity when looking at the code (you
don't
have to check the project properties to figure out where the app starts),
and I can easily customize the startup code.
-Philip Rieck
http://philiprieck.com/blog/
"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..

> Hi Andre,
>
> Sub Main is an standard part of dotNet.
>
> When it is ommitted as with VBNet in the standard way than that one is
> taken in the Form you choose as startup in the properties of your
> application. It is not a win32 part.
>
> It is not hidden, you just do not have to use it, however when you
> want,
> feel free to add that class a lot of VBNet programmers are using that
> as I
> have seen.
>
> Cor
>
>> I'm learning C# and already know VB .Net. I noticed that C# you have
>> a
>> Static Void Main () (entry point of the app).
>>
>> Well that got me thinking, I was told that VB.net removed "The Black
>> Box"
>> of software (hidden code). Where is my Shared sub Main ()? When I
>> create
>> a
>> blank app and run it, it asked me where is Shared sub Main. So, can I
>> assume
>> that it's hidden on a win32 app? And if so, why hide it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>

[Chris Dunaway]

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:50:11 -0500, Philip Rieck wrote:

So no, it's not really hidden, it's just conveniently created for you if you
don't write it yourself. I personally write it myself when creating VB.net

Since you cannot see it, then by definition, it is hidden. The OP was just
making the observation that VB.Net was supposed to have eliminated that
type of "Black Box" functionality. Yet it still exists.

--
Chris

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[Cor Ligthert]

Andre

Thanks All, I wish VB.net was alittle more like C# where the code is
there
for you. Maybe have a check box to show or hide the code for those that
don't
want to see it.

In VBNet is as well all the code for you, the only thing is that there is in
this case used a feature of the .Net framework what is not done in C#.

In C# you cannot use it, in VBNet you are free to use it.

Cor

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

"Gerry O'Brien [MVP]" <gerry dot obrien at gmail dot com> schrieb:

Just to add what Cor has posted, VB also has a weird quirk whereby if you
create an app, then go into the code module for the Class Form1 and change
the name to something other than Form1, you must then also go into the
project properties and tell if to use the new class name for the form as
the startup form. It assumes that it is still looking for Form1 and can
no longer find that class.

If you do not do this, you will get the error that Sub Main cannot be
found.

ACK, but VS.NET will kindly show a dialog that allows picking the new
startup object :-).

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>