Hello,
I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help file).
Also :
for the function : now() in VBScript for getting the current time,
what is the counterpart function of VB ?
Thanks :)
Nov 20 '05
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Hello,
"Scott M." <s-***@badspamsnet .net> schrieb: but for someone who is new to .NET why bother
learning the "old" (non OO) way?
Old <> Bad
Not OOP <> Bad
Lastly, while the use of these older functions may not bring
your app to its knees. They are NOT as efficient, by and
large, as the new method calls.
Nevertheless, sometimes readability is much higher when using the "old"
functions.
--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Scott,
Do you mean in a same way as that old paper tape things like case sensitive
"crutch" from the paper tape C Unix computer time will been replaced by
modern methods where the power of a computer can be helpful for the
programmer in C# in a way like in VB.net now?
Cor
Scott,
Your mails give me the idea that you are thinking that a modern computer is
the same as an abacus. Sorry for you it is not. Even for me it is not a big
problem to make from a function used in VB the same pseudo code as from a
method.
Maybe you underestimate the programmers from Microsoft, I don't. So I don't
think that they did not do that, it's so much easier for the framework you
know?
Regards,
Cor
Mr. x,
Sorry but in this newsgroup that is not the topic, maybe just a few persons
who often visits this newsgroup know maybe what you ask, so the change is
little that you get an answer.
The newsgroups for that are the script groups and the asp.net newsgroup.
Sorry,
I cannot help you any furter.
Cor
Hello,
"Cor" <no*@non.com> schrieb: Your mails give me the idea that you are thinking that a
modern computer is the same as an abacus.
LOL
Sorry for you it is not. Even for me it is not a big problem to
make from a function used in VB the same pseudo code as from a
method.
ACK
Maybe you underestimate the programmers from Microsoft,
I don't. So I don't think that they did not do that, it's so much
easier for the framework you know?
What did the Microsofties do? I don't really understand the meaning of the
sentence above...
;-)
--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Hello,
"Cor" <no*@non.com> schrieb: Do you mean in a same way as that old paper tape things like
case sensitive "crutch" from the paper tape C Unix computer
time will been replaced by modern methods where the power
of a computer can be helpful for the programmer in C# in
a way like in VB.net now?
;-)
--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Hello,
"Scott M." <s-***@badspamsnet .net> schrieb: VB.NET is a true OO language now
No. VB.NET is _not_ an OO language. VB.NET _supports_ OOP as a _tool_.
You can still write applications in VB.NET without using OOP (module, 'Sub
Main', ...). C# _is_ a programming language limited to OOP only.
and as such, most of the old "functions" have been replaced with
methods.
No. The old functions _are_ methods. 'Right', for example, is a method of
the 'Strings' class.
The functions that are still there are only there as a "crutch" for
migrating VB 6.0 developers,
No. They are main part of the Visual Basic .NET programming language. If
you don't use them, you may want to turn to C#. I don't know any C#
programmer who won't use certain features of his language only because they
don't fit in a certain programming paradigm.
but they do not reflect the best practices of writing code
it .NET.
VB.NET is a programming language for developing VB.NET solutions.
You might be better of beginning to examine the .NET
Framework Base Class Libraries.
The Framework is good, but VB.NET provides _more_.
--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Hello,
"Cor" <no*@non.com> schrieb: Sorry but in this newsgroup that is not the topic, maybe
just a few persons who often visits this newsgroup know maybe what
you ask, so the change is little that you get an answer.
The newsgroups for that are the script groups and the
asp.net newsgroup.
Why are people who don't use an IDE for developing not welcome in this
group?! Notice that I fully agree with redirecting of ASP.NET related
questions to the ASP.NET group.
;-)
--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
"Cor" <no*@non.com> wrote in message
news:3f******** *************** @reader22.wxs.n l... Scott,
Your mails give me the idea that you are thinking that a modern computer
is the same as an abacus. Sorry for you it is not. Even for me it is not a
big problem to make from a function used in VB the same pseudo code as from a
method.
I don't know what this means.
Maybe you underestimate the programmers from Microsoft, I don't. So I
don't think that they did not do that, it's so much easier for the framework you
know?
I don't know what that means either.
Regards,
Cor
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.ac tivevb.de> wrote in message
news:eJ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
"Scott M." <s-***@badspamsnet .net> schrieb: but for someone who is new to .NET why bother
learning the "old" (non OO) way?
Old <> Bad
Old = Legacy = Non-consitent with current techniques
Not OOP <> Bad
Not OOP = Not OOP [.NET is ALL about OOP & the changes to VB.NET reflect
that]
Lastly, while the use of these older functions may not bring
your app to its knees. They are NOT as efficient, by and
large, as the new method calls.
Nevertheless, sometimes readability is much higher when using the "old"
functions.
Perhaps, but if you understand OOP, is it that hard to understand that
"length" is an appropriate property for a string rather than an ambiuous
function "len()" that allows a programmer to pass in anything they want
(including expressions that don't have length)?
--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
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