newbie question:
Is there a 'K&R" type of Python book? The book that you'd better have on
your shelf if you are going into Python?
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On 4 Sie, 15:23, "dhr" <dima.hris...@g mail.comwrote:
newbie question:
Is there a 'K&R" type of Python book? The book that you'd better have on
your shelf if you are going into Python?
There are actually two of them:
"How to Think Like a Computer Scientist: Learning with Python" by
Allen B. Downey, Jeffrey Elkner and Chris Meyers http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
and
"Dive Into Python" by Mark Pilgrim http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html
Hope this helps :-)
Cheers and good luck,
Marek
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dhr <di**********@g mail.comwrote:
>
newbie question:
Is there a 'K&R" type of Python book? The book that you'd better have on
your shelf if you are going into Python?
There really aren't any, assuming you're comfortable reading web-based
material. If it's important to you to have a reference book, probably
_Python in a Nutshell_ would be best. If you're looking for a tutorial,
I'll plug my own _Python for Dummies_. ;-)
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This is Python. We don't care much about theory, except where it intersects
with useful practice.
On Aug 4, 8:23 am, "dhr" <dima.hris...@g mail.comwrote:
newbie question:
Is there a 'K&R" type of Python book? The book that you'd better have on
your shelf if you are going into Python?
I second the comment about the Official Python Tutorial, however you
did say, "on the shelf" in which case I would recommend:
Python Essential Reference, David Beazley, 3rd edition Feb 2006
great, esp. if you already know some other programming language. http://tinyurl.com/38f5mh
rd
On 2007-08-04, dhr <di**********@g mail.comwrote:
newbie question:
Is there a 'K&R" type of Python book? The book that you'd
better have on your shelf if you are going into Python?
C is such a small language that the same slim volume can be both
a great tutorial and an awesome language reference.
With Python, you won't find anything like that. Python is too
huge.
So get used to the idea of needing several books. ;)
--
Neil Cerutti
On Aug 4, 9:32 am, Neil Cerutti <horp...@yahoo. comwrot
With Python, you won't find anything like that. Python is too
huge.
That's silly. Python is small in the sense that C is small. The Python
standard library is probably much bigger than the C standard library,
but Kernghan and Richie don't cover it.
K&R is a unique book. I have never seen anything comparable for any
language. The closest Python equivalent is the official docs: http://docs.python.org/
I think the core Python bookshelf is:
Learning Python (Lutxz & Ascher) and/or
Dive Into Python (Pilgrim) for tutorial
Python in a Nutshell (Martelli) AND
Python Essential Reference (Beazley) for reference
The latter two books are not perfect (both indexes are infuriating)
but I usually find that I can find what I am looking for in one or the
other.
Like most people I eventually plan to read Moby Dick, War and Peace,
and Lutz's Programming Python. Maybe when I retire.
mt
On 2007-08-04, Michael Tobis <mt****@gmail.c omwrote:
On Aug 4, 9:32 am, Neil Cerutti <horp...@yahoo. comwrot
>With Python, you won't find anything like that. Python is too
huge.
That's silly. Python is small in the sense that C is small.
What way of measuring makes that true?
The Python standard library is probably much bigger than the C
standard library, but Kernghan and Richie don't cover it.
The complete standard library, plus some Unix-centered stuff is
covered in K&R. Python compares closely to C++ in the scope of
its built-in features.
K&R is a unique book. I have never seen anything comparable for
any language.
That's partly because C is so small, though. Also Kernighan is a
good technical writer. I'm not sure of Ritchie's contribution, as
I haven't read any other books he wrote.
The closest Python equivalent is the official docs:
http://docs.python.org/
I think the core Python bookshelf is:
Learning Python (Lutxz & Ascher) and/or
Dive Into Python (Pilgrim) for tutorial
Python in a Nutshell (Martelli) AND
Python Essential Reference (Beazley) for reference
The latter two books are not perfect (both indexes are
infuriating) but I usually find that I can find what I am
looking for in one or the other.
That's an excellent list.
Like most people I eventually plan to read Moby Dick, War and
Peace, and Lutz's Programming Python. Maybe when I retire.
Don't forget Rarnaby Budge, by Charles Dikkens, the well known
Dutch author.
--
Neil Cerutti
On Aug 4, 8:23 am, "dhr" <dima.hris...@g mail.comwrote:
newbie question:
Is there a 'K&R" type of Python book? The book that you'd better have on
your shelf if you are going into Python?
I would recommend "Programmin g Python 3rd Ed." by Lutz or "Core Python
Programming" by Chun. Lutz has more examples than Chun, but Chun has
lots of good information about the language's history. Both authors
share interesting facts about the language, some of which are pretty
obscure. Lutz has good case studies though, so it may be slightly more
valuable.
Mike
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 15:10 +0000, Michael Tobis wrote:
Like most people I eventually plan to read Moby Dick, War and Peace,
and Lutz's Programming Python. Maybe when I retire.
LOL. Lutz's Programming Python is actually how I learned Python.
Michael Tobis <mt****@gmail.c omwrites:
On Aug 4, 9:32 am, Neil Cerutti <horp...@yahoo. comwrot
>With Python, you won't find anything like that. Python is too
huge.
That's silly. Python is small in the sense that C is small. The Python
standard library is probably much bigger than the C standard library,
but Kernghan and Richie don't cover it.
>
K&R is a unique book. I have never seen anything comparable for any
That's very true.
language. The closest Python equivalent is the official docs:
http://docs.python.org/
I think the core Python bookshelf is:
Learning Python (Lutxz & Ascher) and/or
Dive Into Python (Pilgrim) for tutorial
I can recommend (for a big fat reference at a good price) "Programmin g
Python" by Mark Lutz from O'Reilly.
>
Python in a Nutshell (Martelli) AND
Python Essential Reference (Beazley) for reference
The latter two books are not perfect (both indexes are infuriating)
but I usually find that I can find what I am looking for in one or the
other.
Like most people I eventually plan to read Moby Dick, War and Peace,
and Lutz's Programming Python. Maybe when I retire.
Aha. You heard of it :-;
>
mt
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