Not Equal to Each Other?

[ale.of.ginger]

Another question: I am writing a sudoku solving program. The
'solving' part of is just multiple iterations. It will take random
numbers and keep switching it all around until a set of logic
statements has been met (ie; all numbers in a row are not equal to each
other) ... that's where my question comes in.

Cellboard = my list for storing each row/column's data.

Rather than writing

cellboard[0] is not* (cellboard[1] and cellboard[2] and cellboard[3]
and cellboard[4] ... cellboard[8])
cellboard[1] is not (cellboard[0] and cellboard[2] and cellboard[3] and
cellboard[4] ... cellboard[8])
etc...

* should this be != ?

the above so that all the data in one row is not equal to each other,
is there something I can write to make it simpler? For example,
(cellboard[0] is not cellboard[1] is not ... cellboard[8]) only worked
for the numbers to the left and right of the cell - is there anyway I
can expand this to cover all numbers in a set range?

[Stephen Thorne]

On 3 Nov 2005 17:01:08 -0800, al***********@g mail.com
<al***********@ gmail.com> wrote:

the above so that all the data in one row is not equal to each other,
is there something I can write to make it simpler? For example,
(cellboard[0] is not cellboard[1] is not ... cellboard[8]) only worked
for the numbers to the left and right of the cell - is there anyway I
can expand this to cover all numbers in a set range?

Python has an operator call 'in', which will allow you to do what you're after.

"1 in (1,2,3)" will be true
"4 in (1,2,3)" will be false
"not 1 in (1,2,3)" will be false

So you'd be after something along the lines of:
not cellboard[0] in (cellboard[1], ...., celboard[8]).

This seems quite tedious to write, maybe you should consider something
along the lines of using slicing:

not celboard[0] in cellboard[1:8]

I hope i have given you enough tools to do what you're trying to do.

--
Stephen Thorne
Development Engineer

[Alex Martelli]

<al***********@ gmail.com> wrote:
...

Rather than writing

cellboard[0] is not* (cellboard[1] and cellboard[2] and cellboard[3]
and cellboard[4] ... cellboard[8])
cellboard[1] is not (cellboard[0] and cellboard[2] and cellboard[3] and
cellboard[4] ... cellboard[8])

Urgh... the fastest way to check that a list of N numbers has no
duplicates is:
if len(set(thelist )) == len(thelist):
print 'no duplicates'

But if your purpose is to generate N random samples out of a population
of M, look at function random.sample (in module random in the Pythons
standard library) and you'll do even better!-)
Alex

[ale.of.ginger]

For the

not cellboard[0] in cellboard[1:8] (I knew about ranges/slicing using a
colon, can't believe I didn't think of that!)

line, will I have to write that out for each number?

So the line:

not cellboard in ((cellboard[1:8]) and (cellboard[9] and cellboard[18]
and cellboard[27] and cellboard[36] and cellboard[45] and cellboard[54]
and cellboard[63] and cellboard[72]) and (cellboard[1:2] and
cellboard[9:11] and cellboard[18:20]))

will cover all the logic requirements for the number in cell 0 (well,
row 1, column 1).

But will I have to copy + paste + edit that for all 81 cells? That
isn't complicated, just tedious - thanks though.

[Bengt Richter]

On 3 Nov 2005 17:01:08 -0800, al***********@g mail.com wrote:

Another question: I am writing a sudoku solving program. The
'solving' part of is just multiple iterations. It will take random
numbers and keep switching it all around until a set of logic
statements has been met (ie; all numbers in a row are not equal to each
other) ... that's where my question comes in.

Cellboard = my list for storing each row/column's data.

Rather than writing

cellboard[0] is not* (cellboard[1] and cellboard[2] and cellboard[3]
and cellboard[4] ... cellboard[8])
cellboard[1] is not (cellboard[0] and cellboard[2] and cellboard[3] and
cellboard[4] ... cellboard[8])
etc...

* should this be != ?

the above so that all the data in one row is not equal to each other,
is there something I can write to make it simpler? For example,
(cellboard[0] is not cellboard[1] is not ... cellboard[8]) only worked
for the numbers to the left and right of the cell - is there anyway I
can expand this to cover all numbers in a set range?

UIAM if you have a list of items that are comparable and hashable, like integers,
you can make a set of the list, and duplicates will be eliminated in the set.
Therefore if the resulting set has the same number of members as the list it
was made from, you can conclude that the list contains no duplicates. E.g.,

cellboard = range(8)
cellboard [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] set(cellboard) set([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]) len(set(cellboa rd)) 8 cellboard[2] = 7
cellboard [0, 1, 7, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] set(cellboard) set([0, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]) len(set(cellboa rd)) 7

So the test would be len(set(cellboa rd))==len(cellb oard) False
And after repairing the list to uniqueness of elements: cellboard[2] = 2
len(set(cellboa rd))==len(cellb oard)

True

HTH

Regards,
Bengt Richter

[ale.of.ginger]

How do I 'define' set? Is there something to include (like import
random)?

while (choice == 3) and len(set(cellboa rd[0:8]))==len(cellboa rd[0:8]):
# DEFINE TWO RANDOM VARIABLES (ONE FOR ARRAY, ONE FOR NUMBER
VALUE)
solvingrandom = random.randint( 1,9)
cellboardrandom = random.randint( 0,8)
set(cellboard[0:8])

# CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE RANDOMLY ASSIGNED CELL DOES NOT HAVE A
VALUE
if (cellboard[cellboardrandom] is not ('1' or '2' or '3' or '4'
or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9')):
cellboard[cellboardrandom] = solvingrandom

The above is my code (right now it will only work for the first row's
numbers). Anything else I need to add?

[Juho Schultz]

al***********@g mail.com wrote:

How do I 'define' set? Is there something to include (like import
random)?
set is a built-in type in Python 2.4
If you use 2.3 you can use the sets module with "import sets"

while (choice == 3) and len(set(cellboa rd[0:8]))==len(cellboa rd[0:8]):
# DEFINE TWO RANDOM VARIABLES (ONE FOR ARRAY, ONE FOR NUMBER
VALUE)
solvingrandom = random.randint( 1,9)
cellboardrandom = random.randint( 0,8)
set(cellboard[0:8])

# CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE RANDOMLY ASSIGNED CELL DOES NOT HAVE A
VALUE
if (cellboard[cellboardrandom] is not ('1' or '2' or '3' or '4'
or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9')):
cellboard[cellboardrandom] = solvingrandom

The above is my code (right now it will only work for the first row's
numbers). Anything else I need to add?

Simplify your code a bit:

'2' is not ('1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9')
evaluates to True
'1' is not ('1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9')
evaluates to False
Somehow I do not believe you want that behavipur.

If cellboard contains characters, you could use:
if (cellboard[cellboardrandom] not in '123456789')

for integers, the following should work:
if not (1 <= cellboard[cellboardrandom] <= 9)

Using None to code empty cells, you could even have:
if (cellboard[cellboardrandom] is None)

[jgardner]

> will I have to write that out for each number?

Not if you know how to use the 'for' statement. It will allow you to
iterate through the rows or columns or whatnot.