imagettftext w/o anti alias in small font sizes -> ugly

[blickensdoerfer]

i have a problem using ImageTTFText: I want a Text in Arial , 8pt,
without Anti-Aliasing . The result is very ugly, how can i get it
proper like it would be displayed in the browser window or photoshop?
i tried a lot of things and searched, but did not find a solution to
this...help is very much appreciated! thank you

[Richard]

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>i have a problem using ImageTTFText: I want a Text in Arial , 8pt,
without Anti-Aliasing . The result is very ugly, how can i get it
proper like it would be displayed in the browser window or
photoshop?
i tried a lot of things and searched, but did not find a solution to
this...help is very much appreciated! thank you

Sorry to disappoint you, but it is not possible.

Without anti-aliasing or grey-scale interpolation, you can not get
smooth small text on a screen.

Consider this:
8 points would be around 8 pixels at 72 DPI. Try to draw a character
in those dimensions. You get pixelated graphics.

Which browser are you talking about anyway?
What OS?

All OSes and browsers have smooth text, meaning they do anti-aliasing
automatically.

Richard.

BTW:
There is no such unit as a Point on a computer screen. The only real
unit on a screen is a pixel. Points are for printing.

[blickensdoerfer]

maybe this helps explaining:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/636/testsu2.jpg

you can't see too much text unfortunately, but look at the "0"...it's
noch displayed correct an so are all other characters...

[George Maicovschi]

Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy it
in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing without
andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
smooth as you are hoping.

Regards,
George Maicovschi.

[blickensdoerfer]

Hi George,

thx for the tip.
I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be in
the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..

greetings

stefan

On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <[e-mail]>
wrote:

Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy it
in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing without
andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
smooth as you are hoping.

Regards,
George Maicovschi.

[Richard]

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Hi George,

thx for the tip.
I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be
in
the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..

greetings

stefan

On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy
it
in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing
without
andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
smooth as you are hoping.

Regards,
George Maicovschi.

Stefan,
browser text IS anti-aliased in just about ALL browsers.
It is the OS that takes care of that.

You have to go back to WIN95 or Mac OS8 to see non-anti-aliased text
on screen...

Check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_rasterization

Richard.

[blickensdoerfer]

sorry, i'm not actually finding the right words:

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8504/gderroryu9.jpg

here is my problem ...

On Apr 1, 10:39 pm, "Richard" <root@localhostwrote:

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Hi George,

thx for the tip.
I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be
in
the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..

greetings

stefan

On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <[e-mail]>
wrote:

Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy
it
in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing
without
andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
smooth as you are hoping.

Regards,
George Maicovschi.

Stefan,
browser text IS anti-aliased in just about ALL browsers.
It is the OS that takes care of that.

You have to go back to WIN95 or Mac OS8 to see non-anti-aliased text
on screen...

Check here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_rasterization

Richard.

[blickensdoerfer]

now i found my problem:

http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25928&edit=1

[Richard]

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now i found my problem:

http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25928&edit=1

I doubt it, since that doc is from 2003....

:(

R.

[George Maicovschi]

Richard,

His text is IN an image, I didn't know IE or any other browser
antialiases text in images :-)

[blickensdoerfer]

On 2 Apr., 09:14, George Maicovschi <[e-mail]>
wrote:

Richard,

His text is IN an image, I didn't know IE or any other browser
antialiases text in images :-)

oh really??? ;) it's not about that. the picture is just an
explanation of how i want my text too look like. i think i used the
wrong words before (i should have left out the browsers, although my
browsers don't antialias small font-sizes), that's why there's such a
misunderstanding...

[blickensdoerfer]

now i found my problem:

>

http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25928&edit=1

I doubt it, since that doc is from 2003....

:(

but since it is due too a patent, i think it's still the point. at
least when i'm going into the config-file of freetype sourcecode, that
special line is still disabled