looking for a price quote

[plemon]

alright here is what it is:

a computer site where customers build custom system by selecting from
forms and radio buttons.

what is needed:

a database (MySQL) with php basicly...

1 users reguister with email address and password if password is lost
an email is sent to them giving them the password.

2 orders are saved in the database in many different 2 different spots
1 table that holds all the information and one that is set up like a
mailing list.

3 web pages that get info from the database to create A. invoice B.
Packaging slip C. retrive the proper warranty D. can retrive the
manual for the order and D. when an order is first drawn up and added
to a users basket weither registered or not they are assigned an order
number and the order is saved for a timed peroid of time 48 hours
maybe but is saved to a diff location then one that is saved at
payment and if they call up our number they our rep. can type in that
number which will display on the page and show they order allowing the
rep to finish it if the user feels uncomfortable giving that info over
the phone and also there could be something like this that says save
for call back and when a user clicks that it sends all that order
information to a page that reps can view and when the page is
refreshed the order info and call back info are included at the time
of clicking send order for call back the user is prompted log in or
register.

the site will be done all that will be needed is the incorporation of
the php and backend we have a server and database with php 5 installed
also note that this must be 1000% yes 1000% injection safe.

[plemon]

On Mar 1, 1:51 pm, "plemon" <[e-mail]:

alright here is what it is:

a computer site where customers build custom system by selecting from
forms and radio buttons.

what is needed:

a database (MySQL) with php basicly...

1 users reguister with email address and password if password is lost
an email is sent to them giving them the password.

2 orders are saved in the database in many different 2 different spots
1 table that holds all the information and one that is set up like a
mailing list.

3 web pages that get info from the database to create A. invoice B.
Packaging slip C. retrive the proper warranty D. can retrive the
manual for the order and D. when an order is first drawn up and added
to a users basket weither registered or not they are assigned an order
number and the order is saved for a timed peroid of time 48 hours
maybe but is saved to a diff location then one that is saved at
payment and if they call up our number they our rep. can type in that
number which will display on the page and show they order allowing the
rep to finish it if the user feels uncomfortable giving that info over
the phone and also there could be something like this that says save
for call back and when a user clicks that it sends all that order
information to a page that reps can view and when the page is
refreshed the order info and call back info are included at the time
of clicking send order for call back the user is prompted log in or
register.

the site will be done all that will be needed is the incorporation of
the php and backend we have a server and database with php 5 installed
also note that this must be 1000% yes 1000% injection safe.

also will need a page that the rep. can type in the order number and
get a list of every part that is in the computer.

[Jerry Stuckle]

plemon wrote:

alright here is what it is:

a computer site where customers build custom system by selecting from
forms and radio buttons.

what is needed:

a database (MySQL) with php basicly...

1 users reguister with email address and password if password is lost
an email is sent to them giving them the password.

2 orders are saved in the database in many different 2 different spots
1 table that holds all the information and one that is set up like a
mailing list.

3 web pages that get info from the database to create A. invoice B.
Packaging slip C. retrive the proper warranty D. can retrive the
manual for the order and D. when an order is first drawn up and added
to a users basket weither registered or not they are assigned an order
number and the order is saved for a timed peroid of time 48 hours
maybe but is saved to a diff location then one that is saved at
payment and if they call up our number they our rep. can type in that
number which will display on the page and show they order allowing the
rep to finish it if the user feels uncomfortable giving that info over
the phone and also there could be something like this that says save
for call back and when a user clicks that it sends all that order
information to a page that reps can view and when the page is
refreshed the order info and call back info are included at the time
of clicking send order for call back the user is prompted log in or
register.

the site will be done all that will be needed is the incorporation of
the php and backend we have a server and database with php 5 installed
also note that this must be 1000% yes 1000% injection safe.

This is nowhere near enough information for a fixed price quote. You
need page screen layouts, what data will be entered in which pages,
exactly what you want to do with the data, etc.

With this information it would be hourly rate only, and no guess on the
number of hours from this information.

What you have is something like:

"I need a house. It needs three bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room,
dining room, kitchen and den. How much will it cost to build?"

For a fixed price quote, you need details as specific as a set of
blueprints are for a house.

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[plemon]

On Mar 1, 3:32 pm, Jerry Stuckle <[e-mail]:

plemon wrote:

alright here is what it is:

a computer site where customers build custom system by selecting from
forms and radio buttons.

what is needed:

a database (MySQL) with php basicly...

1 users reguister with email address and password if password is lost
an email is sent to them giving them the password.

2 orders are saved in the database in many different 2 different spots
1 table that holds all the information and one that is set up like a
mailing list.

3 web pages that get info from the database to create A. invoice B.
Packaging slip C. retrive the proper warranty D. can retrive the
manual for the order and D. when an order is first drawn up and added
to a users basket weither registered or not they are assigned an order
number and the order is saved for a timed peroid of time 48 hours
maybe but is saved to a diff location then one that is saved at
payment and if they call up our number they our rep. can type in that
number which will display on the page and show they order allowing the
rep to finish it if the user feels uncomfortable giving that info over
the phone and also there could be something like this that says save
for call back and when a user clicks that it sends all that order
information to a page that reps can view and when the page is
refreshed the order info and call back info are included at the time
of clicking send order for call back the user is prompted log in or
register.

the site will be done all that will be needed is the incorporation of
the php and backend we have a server and database with php 5 installed
also note that this must be 1000% yes 1000% injection safe.

This is nowhere near enough information for a fixed price quote. You
need page screen layouts, what data will be entered in which pages,
exactly what you want to do with the data, etc.

With this information it would be hourly rate only, and no guess on the
number of hours from this information.

What you have is something like:

"I need a house. It needs three bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room,
dining room, kitchen and den. How much will it cost to build?"

For a fixed price quote, you need details as specific as a set of
blueprints are for a house.

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JDS Computer Training Corp.
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yeah in the time it takes me to write it all out i could do it myself
i need to contact someone and talk to them over aim yim ventrillo the
phone ect.

[plemon]

On Mar 1, 3:32 pm, Jerry Stuckle <[e-mail]:

plemon wrote:

alright here is what it is:

a computer site where customers build custom system by selecting from
forms and radio buttons.

what is needed:

a database (MySQL) with php basicly...

1 users reguister with email address and password if password is lost
an email is sent to them giving them the password.

2 orders are saved in the database in many different 2 different spots
1 table that holds all the information and one that is set up like a
mailing list.

3 web pages that get info from the database to create A. invoice B.
Packaging slip C. retrive the proper warranty D. can retrive the
manual for the order and D. when an order is first drawn up and added
to a users basket weither registered or not they are assigned an order
number and the order is saved for a timed peroid of time 48 hours
maybe but is saved to a diff location then one that is saved at
payment and if they call up our number they our rep. can type in that
number which will display on the page and show they order allowing the
rep to finish it if the user feels uncomfortable giving that info over
the phone and also there could be something like this that says save
for call back and when a user clicks that it sends all that order
information to a page that reps can view and when the page is
refreshed the order info and call back info are included at the time
of clicking send order for call back the user is prompted log in or
register.

the site will be done all that will be needed is the incorporation of
the php and backend we have a server and database with php 5 installed
also note that this must be 1000% yes 1000% injection safe.

This is nowhere near enough information for a fixed price quote. You
need page screen layouts, what data will be entered in which pages,
exactly what you want to do with the data, etc.

With this information it would be hourly rate only, and no guess on the
number of hours from this information.

What you have is something like:

"I need a house. It needs three bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room,
dining room, kitchen and den. How much will it cost to build?"

For a fixed price quote, you need details as specific as a set of
blueprints are for a house.

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JDS Computer Training Corp.
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im just trying to find out if anyone is intrested
and if you say hourly then state the hourly rate

[Jerry Stuckle]

plemon wrote:

On Mar 1, 3:32 pm, Jerry Stuckle <[e-mail]:

>plemon wrote:

>>alright here is what it is:
a computer site where customers build custom system by selecting from
forms and radio buttons.
what is needed:
a database (MySQL) with php basicly...
1 users reguister with email address and password if password is lost
an email is sent to them giving them the password.
2 orders are saved in the database in many different 2 different spots
1 table that holds all the information and one that is set up like a
mailing list.
3 web pages that get info from the database to create A. invoice B.
Packaging slip C. retrive the proper warranty D. can retrive the
manual for the order and D. when an order is first drawn up and added
to a users basket weither registered or not they are assigned an order
number and the order is saved for a timed peroid of time 48 hours
maybe but is saved to a diff location then one that is saved at
payment and if they call up our number they our rep. can type in that
number which will display on the page and show they order allowing the
rep to finish it if the user feels uncomfortable giving that info over
the phone and also there could be something like this that says save
for call back and when a user clicks that it sends all that order
information to a page that reps can view and when the page is
refreshed the order info and call back info are included at the time
of clicking send order for call back the user is prompted log in or
register.
the site will be done all that will be needed is the incorporation of
the php and backend we have a server and database with php 5 installed
also note that this must be 1000% yes 1000% injection safe.

This is nowhere near enough information for a fixed price quote. You
need page screen layouts, what data will be entered in which pages,
exactly what you want to do with the data, etc.

With this information it would be hourly rate only, and no guess on the
number of hours from this information.

What you have is something like:

"I need a house. It needs three bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room,
dining room, kitchen and den. How much will it cost to build?"

For a fixed price quote, you need details as specific as a set of
blueprints are for a house.

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JDS Computer Training Corp.
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im just trying to find out if anyone is intrested
and if you say hourly then state the hourly rate

I'm sure there will be people interested. But don't go just by hourly
rates.

Which is cheaper - 50 hours @ $100/hr., or 150 hours @ $50/hr?

As for getting someone on the phone - I'm sure you can get that also, at
regular hourly rates.

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[Geoff Berrow]

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plemon contained the following:

>yeah in the time it takes me to write it all out i could do it myself
i need to contact someone and talk to them over aim yim ventrillo the
phone ect.

I guess most people here are contactable but you are not going to get an
accurate quote with such a sketchy description. Not only that but you
don't seem to have a handle on database normalisation. Why are you
talking about saving the same information in different locations? That's
not necessary at all. I would concentrate on describing the /operation/
of the system rather than suggesting how it will be achieved.

It doesn't seem like a particularly complicated job, though your
requirements are specific. Other factors that could have an effect are
the existing code. I have a client who uses Front Page. I charge extra
for working with FPs tag soup.

There are other factors. Good, quick, cheap. Pick any two.

40 hours /should/ cover it. But don't hold me to that. :-)

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[met00]

Jerry Stuckle wrote:

"I need a house. It needs three bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room,
dining room, kitchen and den. How much will it cost to build?"

When I was doing this sort of thing for a living, we used to scoff at
Lines Of Code estimates. I used to say that you couldn't estimate what
it would cost in time, money or effort to build a house by computing the
number of nails you would need.

Let's see, he wants a computer configurator associated to a store...
geee, OSC has one of those...

[Jerry Stuckle]

met00 wrote:

Jerry Stuckle wrote:

>"I need a house. It needs three bedrooms, two bathrooms, living room,
dining room, kitchen and den. How much will it cost to build?"

When I was doing this sort of thing for a living, we used to scoff at
Lines Of Code estimates. I used to say that you couldn't estimate what
it would cost in time, money or effort to build a house by computing the
number of nails you would need.

Let's see, he wants a computer configurator associated to a store...
geee, OSC has one of those...

Actually, I find LoC estimates can be quite good at determining the
number of person-hours required. I first learned how to estimate them
when working for IBM, and have used them successfully as a consultant
for a number of years.

The secret, however, is to get an accurate estimate. It's not easy and
takes a lot of experience (as well as a good set of requirements).

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