Hi Gurus
I am building a site using PHP. I also use sessions and these I pass on from URL to URL using the PHPSESSID=......
Now, I am wondering what this means for google. What URLs may be listed with Google and how will they show them (with or without
the session ID)?
Does anyone has any experience with optimising PHP sites for search engines?
Cheers
Nicolaas
21  2771 
WindAndWaves wrote: Hi Gurus
I am building a site using PHP. I also use sessions and these I pass
on from URL to URL using the PHPSESSID=......
Now, I am wondering what this means for google. What URLs may be
listed with Google and how will they show them (with or without the session ID)?
Google is PHP friendly. Try and see.
Does anyone has any experience with optimising PHP sites for search
engines?
SEO is a big hoax; please don't waste your energy on that. Don't
let your site to depend on any search engines; but try to achieve the
opposite.
--
<?php echo 'Just another PHP saint'; ?>
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/
"WindAndWaves" wrote: Hi Gurus
I am building a site using PHP. I also use sessions and these
I pass on from URL to URL using the PHPSESSID=......
Now, I am wondering what this means for google. What URLs may
be listed with Google and how will they show them (with or
without
the session ID)?
Does anyone has any experience with optimising PHP sites for
search engines?
Cheers
Nicolaas
You don’t want to pass unique session id’s when users are not logged
on. Search engines (SE) want to see the same URL time and again, and
unique sesison id’s make them different.
It is quite ok to have session id’s when users are logged on, since
SE’s never log on.
You can look at earlier versions of phpbb for example, that had
session id’s (or still do?). Then there were various mods to get rid
of that.
Can’t you just use cookie. Is there anything to be carried from page
to page via sessionid if the user is not logged on?
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"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote in message >
[.....] SEO is a big hoax; please don't waste your energy on that. Don't
let your site to depend on any search engines; but try to achieve the
opposite.
Interesting you say that - I am not sure if you are serious or what you mean. With SEO I mean that you setup your site in such a
way that people who look for your topic on Google can find you. For example, if you have a site about socks then you make sure that
the word sock appears in your index file at least a few times, etc... etc...
I know that works, because I have Google rankings for several sites using this methodology.
I was just wondering if there was anything special you had to watch when programming your pages in PHP.
Thanks for your reply
- Nicolaas
WindAndWaves wrote: SEO is a big hoax; please don't waste your energy on that. Don't
let your site to depend on any search engines; but try to achieve the
opposite.
Interesting you say that - I am not sure if you are serious or what
you mean. With SEO I mean that you setup your site in such a
way that people who look for your topic on Google can find you. For
example, if you have a site about socks then you make sure that the
word sock appears in your index file at least a few times, etc...
etc...
I know that works, because I have Google rankings for several sites
using this methodology.
I was just wondering if there was anything special you had to watch
when programming your pages in PHP.
You should probably subscribe to alt.internet.search-engines and ask the
same questions there.
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"steve" <Us************@dbForumz.com> wrote in message news:41**********@alt.athenanews.com... "WindAndWaves" wrote: > Hi Gurus
>
> I am building a site using PHP. I also use sessions and these
> I pass on from URL to URL using the PHPSESSID=......
>
> Now, I am wondering what this means for google. What URLs may
> be listed with Google and how will they show them (with or
> without
> the session ID)?
>
> Does anyone has any experience with optimising PHP sites for
> search engines?
>
> Cheers
>
> Nicolaas
You don't want to pass unique session id's when users are not logged
on. Search engines (SE) want to see the same URL time and again, and
unique sesison id's make them different.
It is quite ok to have session id's when users are logged on, since
SE's never log on.
You can look at earlier versions of phpbb for example, that had
session id's (or still do?). Then there were various mods to get rid
of that.
Can't you just use cookie. Is there anything to be carried from page
to page via sessionid if the user is not logged on?
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I do not ask my users to log on, but they do create their own "shopping baskets" and retain their last search. That is why I use
the Session IDs. Having said that, I have no idea if I am doing it right. I just put the
<?php echo session_id(); ?>
at the end of each link and I start each page with
session_start();
Does that make sense?
Thanks for your reply
- Nicolaas
Google will not show the session id when crawling your site
Googlebot will empty the PHPSESSID and save your web pages without
PHPSESSID
WindAndWaves wrote: "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote in
message >
[.....]
SEO is a big hoax; please don't waste your energy on that. Don't
let your site to depend on any search engines; but try to achieve
the opposite.
Interesting you say that - I am not sure if you are serious or what
you mean. With SEO I mean that you setup your site in such a way that people who look for your topic on Google can find you. For
example, if you have a site about socks then you make sure that the word sock appears in your index file at least a few times, etc...
etc...
I know that works, because I have Google rankings for several sites
using this methodology.
First of all, there is no "methodology". Most of the SEO theories
are big hoax. FWIW, the keyword "jeba" ranks #2 my simple site which I
didn't "optimize" at all and didn't update for longtime. My site log
shows, "some people" are working hard (almost 2years) to get my
position--they even registered lots of domains in that name.
I was just wondering if there was anything special you had to watch
when programming your pages in PHP.
Yes, some losers use "cloaking"; which is quite illegal according
to Google's TOS.
--
<?php echo 'Just another PHP saint'; ?>
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/
"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote in message news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... WindAndWaves wrote: "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote in
message >
[.....]
SEO is a big hoax; please don't waste your energy on that. Don't
let your site to depend on any search engines; but try to achieve the opposite.
Interesting you say that - I am not sure if you are serious or what
you mean. With SEO I mean that you setup your site in such a way that people who look for your topic on Google can find you. For
example, if you have a site about socks then you make sure that the word sock appears in your index file at least a few times, etc...
etc...
I know that works, because I have Google rankings for several sites
using this methodology.
First of all, there is no "methodology". Most of the SEO theories
are big hoax. FWIW, the keyword "jeba" ranks #2 my simple site which I
didn't "optimize" at all and didn't update for longtime. My site log
shows, "some people" are working hard (almost 2years) to get my
position--they even registered lots of domains in that name.
I was just wondering if there was anything special you had to watch
when programming your pages in PHP.
Yes, some losers use "cloaking"; which is quite illegal according
to Google's TOS.
--
<?php echo 'Just another PHP saint'; ?>
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/
well, Google tries to find out what your site is all about - and you can definitely help it.
One of the main ways to help it is to have lots of people point at you (with links) using the keyword jeba.
It seems that in your case they have done it. This works particularly well if it is done by influential sites (e.g. yahoo).
Anyway, for my site i will just wait and see what happens when it goes live and take from there.
"sam" <jo*****@jorecom.com> wrote in message news:11*********************@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com... Google will not show the session id when crawling your site
Googlebot will empty the PHPSESSID and save your web pages without
PHPSESSID
GREAT
WindAndWaves wrote: "steve" <Us************@dbForumz.com> wrote in message
news:41**********@alt.athenanews.com...
<snip> I do not ask my users to log on, but they do create their own
"shopping baskets" and retain their last search. That is why I use the Session IDs. Having said that, I have no idea if I am doing it
right. I just put the
<?php echo session_id(); ?>
You don't have to append *manually*. You can use
<http://in.php.net/session#ini.session.use-trans-sid>
--
<?php echo 'Just another PHP saint'; ?>
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/
steve wrote: "WindAndWaves" wrote:
<snip> Can't you just use cookie. Is there anything to be carried from
page to page via sessionid if the user is not logged on?
Search engines won't handle cookies. That's why some webpages use
trans sid, but only for search engines--so that it carries variables to
other pages. Sounds like you're stating the reverse.
--
<?php echo 'Just another PHP saint'; ?>
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/
"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote in message news:11**********************@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... steve wrote: "WindAndWaves" wrote:
<snip> Can't you just use cookie. Is there anything to be carried from
page to page via sessionid if the user is not logged on?
Search engines won't handle cookies. That's why some webpages use
trans sid, but only for search engines--so that it carries variables to
other pages. Sounds like you're stating the reverse.
sorry for the misunderstanding. I just add the PHPSESSID='.session_id().' to all my links. It is already done, so I think I will
leave it like that. Sorry, if I may sound a little confused. It is my third week in the PHP seat and I do not have any formal comp
training.
.oO(WindAndWaves) sorry for the misunderstanding. I just add the
PHPSESSID='.session_id().' to all my links.
The predefined constant SID exists for that purpose.
Micha
"Michael Fesser" <ne*****@gmx.net> wrote in message news:ri********************************@4ax.com... .oO(WindAndWaves)
sorry for the misunderstanding. I just add the
PHPSESSID='.session_id().' to all my links.
The predefined constant SID exists for that purpose.
Micha
What is that all about - should I look that up?
.oO(WindAndWaves) The predefined constant SID exists for that purpose.
What is that all about - should I look that up?
If you have to append a session ID to a link by hand you can use that
constant. From the manual:
SID (string)
Constant containing either the session name and session ID in the form
of "name=ID" or empty string if session ID was set in an appropriate
session cookie.
Micha
To WindAndWaves
The new msn search show the PHPSESSID :(
just to know that
"sam" <jo*****@jorecom.com> wrote in message news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... To WindAndWaves
The new msn search show the PHPSESSID :(
just to know that
but then again - who uses msn?
"sam" <jo*****@jorecom.com> wrote in message news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... WindAndWaves
The New MSN search engine http://search.msn.com
looks like better than google
You mean they copied Google. I just had a look at it. My pages are scoring extremely high - that is good, but not necessarily
fair....
What do you like about it?
"sam" <jo*****@jorecom.com> wrote in message news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... WindAndWaves
The New MSN search engine http://search.msn.com
looks like better than google
and the chaged pages do not seem to work....
WindAndWaves
Hey man , I'm not bell Gates :)
but I try the new msn search engine , it's look good.
I don't know it's copied Google or not but any way , here we are using
Google and we must respect that the Google is the #1 Search engine.
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