473,507 Members | 2,451 Online
Bytes | Software Development & Data Engineering Community
+ Post

Home Posts Topics Members FAQ

Service oriented architecture in practice.


Hello,
I need to build a new web system. It is required that i use SOA .
Can someone tell me briefly what that means in practise. I have read
some rather abstract documents, describing the idea but i yet need to find
a practical guide to kick of my project.

Any help will be highly appreciated.
Many Thanks in advance

JB
Nov 23 '05 #1
6 1463
Hi there
'
jensen bredal wrote:
Hello,
I need to build a new web system. It is required that i use SOA .
Can someone tell me briefly what that means in practise. I have read
some rather abstract documents, describing the idea but i yet need to find
a practical guide to kick of my project.


I can understand your need for a definition and some "get me started"
document. I was in need for this, too, but there's so much hype around
"services" these day, that they seem to forget the A in SOA.
In my opinion this is a matter of architecture. For instance - I have
been building services (the SOA way) for years - without using WebServices.
Bottom line:
You can have a SOA without WebServices, but it kinda difficult not have
a SOA with WebServices. Difficult because WebServices is build around
the idea of SOA.

So, you next question is: OK, I do WebServices equals I do SOA, right?

Well, ahem. You could do a lot of "bad practices", that makes you "SOA"
so not Service-Oriented that it is useless and you do not gain the
benefits, that's usually involved when runnig a SOA.

The short answer to your question is, although the info you gave was
very limited:

1)
Start out with WebServices.

2)
Build coarse-grained WebServices

3)
Pass-in and return as much as possible in one network round trip, ie.
one call to the WebService.

4)
Behind the scenes (your WebSevice interface) use common OO design and
programming.

5)
Use XML schemas to describe the structures (custom objects) you are
passing to/from the webservices, maybe including your messages
(operations). That is, use the Contract-First approach. See
www.thinktecture.com. Christian has a faaaantastic article on the topic.
Then, import these structures (.xsd files) into the .wsdl for the
webservice and generate the code you need using wsdl.exe.

That is common guidelines. I can not to into more specific parts as I do
not know what your application requirements are..? As always...It
depends... :-)

Regards

Henrik
websolver.blogspot.com
Nov 23 '05 #2
Hi there
'
jensen bredal wrote:
Hello,
I need to build a new web system. It is required that i use SOA .
Can someone tell me briefly what that means in practise. I have read
some rather abstract documents, describing the idea but i yet need to find
a practical guide to kick of my project.


I can understand your need for a definition and some "get me started"
document. I was in need for this, too, but there's so much hype around
"services" these day, that they seem to forget the A in SOA.
In my opinion this is a matter of architecture. For instance - I have
been building services (the SOA way) for years - without using WebServices.
Bottom line:
You can have a SOA without WebServices, but it kinda difficult not have
a SOA with WebServices. Difficult because WebServices is build around
the idea of SOA.

So, you next question is: OK, I do WebServices equals I do SOA, right?

Well, ahem. You could do a lot of "bad practices", that makes you "SOA"
so not Service-Oriented that it is useless and you do not gain the
benefits, that's usually involved when runnig a SOA.

The short answer to your question is, although the info you gave was
very limited:

1)
Start out with WebServices.

2)
Build coarse-grained WebServices

3)
Pass-in and return as much as possible in one network round trip, ie.
one call to the WebService.

4)
Behind the scenes (your WebSevice interface) use common OO design and
programming.

5)
Use XML schemas to describe the structures (custom objects) you are
passing to/from the webservices, maybe including your messages
(operations). That is, use the Contract-First approach. See
www.thinktecture.com. Christian has a faaaantastic article on the topic.
Then, import these structures (.xsd files) into the .wsdl for the
webservice and generate the code you need using wsdl.exe.

That is common guidelines. I can not to into more specific parts as I do
not know what your application requirements are..? As always...It
depends... :-)

Regards

Henrik
websolver.blogspot.com
Nov 23 '05 #3
Many thanks for an excellent input.

JB
webservice and generate the code you need using wsdl.exe.

That is common guidelines. I can not to into more specific parts as I do
not know what your application requirements are..? As always...It
depends... :-)

Regards

Henrik
websolver.blogspot.com

Nov 23 '05 #4
Many thanks for an excellent input.

JB
webservice and generate the code you need using wsdl.exe.

That is common guidelines. I can not to into more specific parts as I do
not know what your application requirements are..? As always...It
depends... :-)

Regards

Henrik
websolver.blogspot.com

Nov 23 '05 #5
I would like to point towards a couple of blog entries that are releveant to
this discussion and are available at

http://dotnetwizards.blogspot.com/20...demistified.ht
http://dotnetwizards.blogspot.com/20...cture-soa.html

Theres one important aspect to this discussion is: "Dont try to apply SOA
into evrry application you design"......

I read it once on TheServerSide.NET
" ... If hammer is the only tool you have then every thing looks like a nail
.... "

Hammad Rajjoub
MVP, XML Web Services.
http://dotnetwizards.blogspot.com

"jensen bredal" wrote:
Many thanks for an excellent input.

JB
webservice and generate the code you need using wsdl.exe.

That is common guidelines. I can not to into more specific parts as I do
not know what your application requirements are..? As always...It
depends... :-)

Regards

Henrik
websolver.blogspot.com


Nov 23 '05 #6
I would like to point towards a couple of blog entries that are releveant to
this discussion and are available at

http://dotnetwizards.blogspot.com/20...demistified.ht
http://dotnetwizards.blogspot.com/20...cture-soa.html

Theres one important aspect to this discussion is: "Dont try to apply SOA
into evrry application you design"......

I read it once on TheServerSide.NET
" ... If hammer is the only tool you have then every thing looks like a nail
.... "

Hammad Rajjoub
MVP, XML Web Services.
http://dotnetwizards.blogspot.com

"jensen bredal" wrote:
Many thanks for an excellent input.

JB
webservice and generate the code you need using wsdl.exe.

That is common guidelines. I can not to into more specific parts as I do
not know what your application requirements are..? As always...It
depends... :-)

Regards

Henrik
websolver.blogspot.com


Nov 23 '05 #7

This thread has been closed and replies have been disabled. Please start a new discussion.

Similar topics

3
1638
by: Blitz Krieg | last post by:
Oh Great Gurus... The wisdom of DotNet-dom is needed... We have several applications in our test lab, that do not need peak performance, but consistent reporting. We have been using C# and VB...
4
1781
by: scottrm | last post by:
I am fairly new to oo design and I am looking at developing an object oriented asp.net application which will be built on top of a relational database. I have read quite a bit of the theory but...
0
3600
by: Barb | last post by:
Hello, I have a (C#) web service being consumed by a high volume "asp classic" site. It worked perfectly until I tried consuming a second web service from the first web service. Both services...
0
323
by: crm-tutorial | last post by:
Service-Oriented Architecture(SOA) - Principles & Practice (October 2006) The Principles of SOA,Loosely-Coupled Architecture,The SOA Solution - How it Works,The iBOLT Flow Editor, Composite...
1
1551
by: fallenidol | last post by:
hi i'm looking for some heads up info regarding calling and using a web service from within another web service. is this acceptable practice? if not why? what should i be thinking about here? ...
11
7885
by: Joseph Geretz | last post by:
I've been looking at two approaches for the maintenance of Session state for a Web Service application. One approach uses the old familiar Session object which I've used in the past for Web...
3
6599
dmjpro
by: dmjpro | last post by:
plz send me a good link which can clearify me how the J2EE framework works i want the details information .... plz help thanx
4
1414
by: =?Utf-8?B?S2F1c2hhbCBNZWh0YQ==?= | last post by:
Hi, I was reading about asynchronous transfer of control in Real Time Java Specification. I am wondering if there is any way we can do similar thing with Web Services in Service Oriented...
5
2732
by: ludwig_stuyck | last post by:
I'm in the process of designing a Service Oriented Architecture. At the moment I based the design on the Web Service Software factory guidelines - so a services layer, business layer and resource...
0
7223
marktang
by: marktang | last post by:
ONU (Optical Network Unit) is one of the key components for providing high-speed Internet services. Its primary function is to act as an endpoint device located at the user's premises. However,...
0
7110
by: Hystou | last post by:
Most computers default to English, but sometimes we require a different language, especially when relocating. Forgot to request a specific language before your computer shipped? No problem! You can...
0
7314
Oralloy
by: Oralloy | last post by:
Hello folks, I am unable to find appropriate documentation on the type promotion of bit-fields when using the generalised comparison operator "<=>". The problem is that using the GNU compilers,...
0
7372
jinu1996
by: jinu1996 | last post by:
In today's digital age, having a compelling online presence is paramount for businesses aiming to thrive in a competitive landscape. At the heart of this digital strategy lies an intricately woven...
0
7482
tracyyun
by: tracyyun | last post by:
Dear forum friends, With the development of smart home technology, a variety of wireless communication protocols have appeared on the market, such as Zigbee, Z-Wave, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc. Each...
0
3191
by: TSSRALBI | last post by:
Hello I'm a network technician in training and I need your help. I am currently learning how to create and manage the different types of VPNs and I have a question about LAN-to-LAN VPNs. The...
0
1540
by: 6302768590 | last post by:
Hai team i want code for transfer the data from one system to another through IP address by using C# our system has to for every 5mins then we have to update the data what the data is updated ...
1
758
muto222
by: muto222 | last post by:
How can i add a mobile payment intergratation into php mysql website.
0
411
bsmnconsultancy
by: bsmnconsultancy | last post by:
In today's digital era, a well-designed website is crucial for businesses looking to succeed. Whether you're a small business owner or a large corporation in Toronto, having a strong online presence...

By using Bytes.com and it's services, you agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.

To disable or enable advertisements and analytics tracking please visit the manage ads & tracking page.