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How many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.
Jul 21 '05 #1
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Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team (given all
of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know the
management.

I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...

So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and
done...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.

Jul 21 '05 #2
..NET was on the drawing board in the middle of 1997. You can figure out the
rest since the release date is common knowledge.

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
Got tidbits? Get it here... http://tinyurl.com/27cok
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.

Jul 21 '05 #3
500 developer x 2000 hours per year = 1,000,000 hours per year?

3 to 4 years, maybe 5 years.

These developers don't really work a 9 to 5 to 40 hour week. Probably at
least a 60 hour week

so 500 developers x 3000 hour per year = 1,500,000 hours per year

1.5 millions hours/year x 3 years = 4.5 million man hours of programmers
only?

probably at least 500 people who are not programmers, but managers,
marketing, sales.

10 million hours?




"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:ew**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team (given all
of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know the
management.

I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...

So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and
done...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.


Jul 21 '05 #4
No, just what it takes to build the .NET 1.1 framework and the SDK


"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi***************@gmx.at> wrote in message
news:2g***********@uni-berlin.de...
* "anon" <an**@hotmail.com> scripsit:
Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?


.NET is based on Windows heavily, so do you want the total time needed
to build all the components .NET relies on?

;-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>

Jul 21 '05 #5
I wonder if it was more than they saved.
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.

Jul 21 '05 #6
> I wonder if it was more than they saved.

Who saved? Bill Gates' personal worth went down by the billions while it was
under development.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"bam Bino" <ba*@LKDEK.COM> wrote in message
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I wonder if it was more than they saved.
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.


Jul 21 '05 #7
A couple hundred grand hehe, that'll probably have paid for 1 second of
Anders&Co s' time.

--

--

Br,
Mark Broadbent
mcdba , mcse+i
=============
"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:ew**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team (given all
of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know the
management.

I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...

So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and
done...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.


Jul 21 '05 #8
Not enough.
Why?
In web applications I still have to use this crap HTML and Javascript. And
the whole logic of a web application is worse then mainframe applications in
70s and 80s. The only difference is that now we can play with pictures.
Regarding window applications I can create better looking and better
performing systems using other software.
The only good thing is C#.

MH
Jul 21 '05 #9
Hi Marius,
Not enough.
Why?
In web applications I still have to use this crap HTML and Javascript. And
the whole logic of a web application is worse then mainframe applications in 70s and 80s. The only difference is that now we can play with pictures.
Regarding window applications I can create better looking and better
performing systems using other software.
The only good thing is C#.


This has nothing to do with DotNet, this has to do with by instance W3C.

The server side the logic is much more and the way Microsoft fixed that to
the W3C regulated clientside is really amazing.

You can make as well your window applications over Internet using dotNet
webservices.
Looks a lot better than that HTML, however those windows applications have a
lot more deployment problems.

Just my opinion,

Cor
Jul 21 '05 #10

"Cor Ligthert" <no**********@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:e$**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi Marius,
Not enough.
Why?
In web applications I still have to use this crap HTML and Javascript. And the whole logic of a web application is worse then mainframe
applications in
70s and 80s. The only difference is that now we can play with pictures.
Regarding window applications I can create better looking and better
performing systems using other software.
The only good thing is C#.
This has nothing to do with DotNet, this has to do with by instance W3C.

You mean that W3C told M$ to keep Javascript?
And you mean that if W3C degraded my superb PC to a dumb terminal we should
accept this situation?
The server side the logic is much more and the way Microsoft fixed that to
the W3C regulated clientside is really amazing.
But the result is horrible. I can bet that the Russians put a lot of work to
make Lada to confirm to USA requirements.

You can make as well your window applications over Internet using dotNet
webservices.
Looks a lot better than that HTML, however those windows applications have a lot more deployment problems.


What is more important Client or Developer?

MH
Jul 21 '05 #11
HA!
"Mark Broadbent" <no************@no-spam-please.com> wrote in message
news:eB**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
A couple hundred grand hehe, that'll probably have paid for 1 second of
Anders&Co s' time.

--

--

Br,
Mark Broadbent
mcdba , mcse+i
=============
"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:ew**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team (given all of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know the management.

I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...

So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and
done...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.



Jul 21 '05 #12
60 hour week at MS? Maybe a *lite* week. I would expect more around 70-100
hours a week there. I've have a couple friends that work there (yet still
can't find room for even a coffee boy..) and they work on average 75 hours
a week. My friend Henry was a PM for IE6, he would work 90 most often...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uL****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
500 developer x 2000 hours per year = 1,000,000 hours per year?

3 to 4 years, maybe 5 years.

These developers don't really work a 9 to 5 to 40 hour week. Probably at
least a 60 hour week

so 500 developers x 3000 hour per year = 1,500,000 hours per year

1.5 millions hours/year x 3 years = 4.5 million man hours of programmers
only?

probably at least 500 people who are not programmers, but managers,
marketing, sales.

10 million hours?




"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:ew**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team (given all of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know the management.

I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...

So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and
done...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?

I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.

Thanks.



Jul 21 '05 #13
90 hours ????

Just how much do these guys get paid to work 90 hours?

Permanent employees and Contract people?

"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:eu**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
60 hour week at MS? Maybe a *lite* week. I would expect more around 70-100 hours a week there. I've have a couple friends that work there (yet still
can't find room for even a coffee boy..) and they work on average 75 hours a week. My friend Henry was a PM for IE6, he would work 90 most often...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uL****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
500 developer x 2000 hours per year = 1,000,000 hours per year?

3 to 4 years, maybe 5 years.

These developers don't really work a 9 to 5 to 40 hour week. Probably at
least a 60 hour week

so 500 developers x 3000 hour per year = 1,500,000 hours per year

1.5 millions hours/year x 3 years = 4.5 million man hours of programmers
only?

probably at least 500 people who are not programmers, but managers,
marketing, sales.

10 million hours?




"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:ew**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team (given

all of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know the management.

I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...

So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and done...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?
>
> I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.
>
> Thanks.
>
>



Jul 21 '05 #14
there are a ton of millionaires in seattle let's just say.
i'm moving up there, hopefully, some crumbs can fall my way

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
Got tidbits? Get it here... http://tinyurl.com/27cok
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uk****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
90 hours ????

Just how much do these guys get paid to work 90 hours?

Permanent employees and Contract people?

"CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
news:eu**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
60 hour week at MS? Maybe a *lite* week. I would expect more around

70-100
hours a week there. I've have a couple friends that work there (yet
still
can't find room for even a coffee boy..) and they work on average 75

hours
a week. My friend Henry was a PM for IE6, he would work 90 most often...
"anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uL****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> 500 developer x 2000 hours per year = 1,000,000 hours per year?
>
> 3 to 4 years, maybe 5 years.
>
> These developers don't really work a 9 to 5 to 40 hour week. Probably
> at
> least a 60 hour week
>
> so 500 developers x 3000 hour per year = 1,500,000 hours per year
>
> 1.5 millions hours/year x 3 years = 4.5 million man hours of programmers > only?
>
> probably at least 500 people who are not programmers, but managers,
> marketing, sales.
>
> 10 million hours?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
> news:ew**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Wow... I cannot even fathom. I once heard that the entire team
> > (given

all
> > of the languages) was well above 500 developers... I don't even know

the
> > management.
> >
> > I'm sure Anders has about 3,000 in there alone...
> >
> > So you probably looking at a couple hundred grand when all was said and > > done...
> >
> >
> > "anon" <an**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Does anyone know how many man-hours were used in creating .NET 1.0?
> > >
> > > I thought it would be an interesting statistic to know.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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