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.NET and what end-users think.

Your opinion please!

Do end-users know, think they know, or even care, what .NET is.?

Do customers hear the word ".NET" and think its the latest thing and must
only have .NET applications, even though they've not a clue what it means?

IMHO the customer shouldnt really care as long as the product meets their
requirements it's none of their concern if it was written in VB.NET or VB6.

Owen
Jul 19 '05
17 2016
Well, some people don't like genetically enhanced food :). The
customer and "end-user" can sometimes be different. Many corporate
customers will care. A small family at a home who got a computer for
Christmas might not understand nor care. Some developers like me do
care (I don't want to buy any devices running Java :)).

-mike
MVP

"owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote in message
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"Vincent Wiegel" <no spam xy*@null.com> wrote in message
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How many DOS programs or QuickBasic or GWBasic or ANSI C, Assembly, other unknown languages I don't care to post??? If it doesn't support it
economically , timely or at all then it matters. I know we are talking
about
more modern languages but I have written in languages that just
don't support certain features and customers steer toward other products unless you can sell them on empty promises.


Yes Vincent but you're missing my point here: Customers care about

features of the *end product*, they dont care about features of *the language you wrote it in*.

Do you seriously find the choice of programming language to be a selling point for a product?? I find that very odd.

It's like saying when you buy a peice of fruit you want to know what farming techniques weere used to grow it, before agreeing it's right for you.
Owen

Jul 19 '05 #11
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:42:18 +0100, "owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote:

¤ Your opinion please!
¤
¤ Do end-users know, think they know, or even care, what .NET is.?
¤
¤ Do customers hear the word ".NET" and think its the latest thing and must
¤ only have .NET applications, even though they've not a clue what it means?
¤
¤ IMHO the customer shouldnt really care as long as the product meets their
¤ requirements it's none of their concern if it was written in VB.NET or VB6.

I'm going to disagree with most of the responses here. The end user should not care nor should
he/she be concerned what development tool was used. They typically are not technically qualified to
assess the significance of a development tool.

The only concern should be whether the application satisfies their requirements.
Paul ~~~ pc******@amerit ech.net
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
Jul 19 '05 #12
"Paul Clement" <Us************ ***********@sws pectrum.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:42:18 +0100, "owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote:

¤ Your opinion please!
¤
¤ Do end-users know, think they know, or even care, what .NET is.?
¤
¤ Do customers hear the word ".NET" and think its the latest thing and must ¤ only have .NET applications, even though they've not a clue what it means? ¤
¤ IMHO the customer shouldnt really care as long as the product meets their ¤ requirements it's none of their concern if it was written in VB.NET or VB6.
I'm going to disagree with most of the responses here. The end user should not care nor should he/she be concerned what development tool was used. They typically are not technically qualified to assess the significance of a development tool.

The only concern should be whether the application satisfies their

requirements.
I agree 100% with you, Paul.

Owen
Jul 19 '05 #13

"owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote in message
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I agree 100% with you, Paul.


....and I suppose really me question was not so much, "should they care",
but, "DO they care?". I am trying to get some idea of whether its worth
wearing .NET like a badge on my apps when it comes to selling them.... I
want to know if end-users / customers have been brainwashed by the hype. ;o)

Owen
Jul 19 '05 #14
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:27:19 +0100, "owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote:

"owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote in message
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I agree 100% with you, Paul.


...and I suppose really me question was not so much, "should they care",
but, "DO they care?". I am trying to get some idea of whether its worth
wearing .NET like a badge on my apps when it comes to selling them.... I
want to know if end-users / customers have been brainwashed by the hype. ;o)

Owen


I think there are always those who think that 'newer is better' so if
you tell them that .NET is the latest thing, they will be impressed. I
should think too, that if vb.NET really is a RAD tool, the development
time should be reduced which might translate into reduced cost. That
is often appealing. :-)
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Beneath the vast indifference of heaven

- Warren Zevon
Jul 19 '05 #15
They really don't work all that great with VS2003 either! :)

Application.Ena bleVisualStyles fails with Listview.

"Herfried K. Wagner" <hi*******@m.ac tivevb.de> wrote in message
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Hello,

"Ed Crowley" <cu******@pacbe ll.net> schrieb:
Why would an app written in VB6 suddenly stop working?


It will not stop working. But there will be some features included in
future OS versions that cannot be accessed directly by VB. For example,
Windows XP Visual Styles don't work correclty with VB Classic (OK, you
can use various API calls to get them work as expected without reducing
usability).

Regards,
Herfried K. Wagner
--
MVP · VB Classic, VB .NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet

Jul 19 '05 #16
Nak
If you were a sales man you would use any significat points to sell your
application, it being written in .NET is one of them.

Nick.

"owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote in message
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"owen" <sp**@spam.co m> wrote in message
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I agree 100% with you, Paul.
...and I suppose really me question was not so much, "should they care",
but, "DO they care?". I am trying to get some idea of whether its worth
wearing .NET like a badge on my apps when it comes to selling them.... I
want to know if end-users / customers have been brainwashed by the hype.

;o)
Owen

Jul 19 '05 #17
Nak
> It's like saying when you buy a peice of fruit you want to know what
farming
techniques weere used to grow it, before agreeing it's right for you.


Not meaning to split hairs but that's probably wasn't a very good example,
in this day and age people DO want to know where the apple comes from, and
what process it went through, the same goes for most products that people
buy. Basically we have the right, and allot have the interest to know.

As someone mentioned in this thread, only the technical people need know,
that's common sence, you tell anyone with no technical knowledge what .NET
is and they will look at you blankly, and say "Can I use windows with that?"
or some other badly phrased crap. That's the sorry fact of the matter, most
people purchasing computer related information don't understand what they
are buying, they just want to know that it is going to provide what they
want, and probably be the cheapest solution.

On the other hand, if the client is of a technical nature then an
application being written in .NET will probably be quite a big selling
point, and they could then go and have wet dreams about purchasing new
hardware to run the applications (with shiney .NET stickers on them) just
for the sake of modernising.

But then again, some people might just say it's all a load of bollocks!!

Nick.
Jul 19 '05 #18

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