WebService session sessionstate SOAP

[jb]

*Please* help --- I'm tearing my hair out.

I want to use sessionstate in a webservice, accessed from a client, written
in script (JScript, InfoPath).

I have written my webservice (C# .NET). I have marked the method(s) with
EnableSession=t rue. I have read everything there is to read! I am told that
to reuse session, my client needs to receive a cookie in the header from the
webservice and then pass this back in all future calls. This can all be
found in HttpWebClientPr otocol.CookieCo ntainer. I am told to "Assign the
CookieContainer to the proxy class" in the web client.

But my client isn't a C# .NET app! It's JScript in InfoPath.

I have written code there to invoke the webmethod via SOAP/XMLHTTP, so I'm
in charge of stuff. The call works fine, minus session stuff. But I cannot
see where what I need for preserving the session is kept/accessed? As I
understand it, I'm just looking to preserve a cookie for "sessionid" that
will be in the "header" (SOAP header? HTTP header?) sent to me from the
webservice?

I'm lost & frustrated...

[Drew Marsh]

> *Please* help --- I'm tearing my hair out.

I want to use sessionstate in a webservice, accessed from a client,
written in script (JScript, InfoPath).

I have written my webservice (C# .NET). I have marked the method(s)
with EnableSession=t rue. I have read everything there is to read! I
am told that to reuse session, my client needs to receive a cookie in
the header from the webservice and then pass this back in all future
calls. This can all be found in
HttpWebClientPr otocol.CookieCo ntainer. I am told to "Assign the
CookieContainer to the proxy class" in the web client.

But my client isn't a C# .NET app! It's JScript in InfoPath.

I have written code there to invoke the webmethod via SOAP/XMLHTTP, so
I'm in charge of stuff. The call works fine, minus session stuff.
But I cannot see where what I need for preserving the session is
kept/accessed? As I understand it, I'm just looking to preserve a
cookie for "sessionid" that will be in the "header" (SOAP header? HTTP
header?) sent to me from the webservice?

I'm lost & frustrated...

You need to use the getResponseHead er and setRequestHeade r methods to manage
cookies manually. There's no nice automagic manager like CookieContainer
for XmlHttp.

HTH,
Dre

[Brian Teutsch [MSFT]]

InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie. You'll have to
receive the web service through script and store the header information into
the DOM somewhere, and handle the cookie get/send yourself. Sorry I don't
have any more information on how to do this, but at least you can stop
looking for something automatic within InfoPath.

Brian

"jb" <jb@discussions .microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

*Please* help --- I'm tearing my hair out.

I want to use sessionstate in a webservice, accessed from a client,
written
in script (JScript, InfoPath).

I have written my webservice (C# .NET). I have marked the method(s) with
EnableSession=t rue. I have read everything there is to read! I am told
that
to reuse session, my client needs to receive a cookie in the header from
the
webservice and then pass this back in all future calls. This can all be
found in HttpWebClientPr otocol.CookieCo ntainer. I am told to "Assign the
CookieContainer to the proxy class" in the web client.

But my client isn't a C# .NET app! It's JScript in InfoPath.

I have written code there to invoke the webmethod via SOAP/XMLHTTP, so I'm
in charge of stuff. The call works fine, minus session stuff. But I
cannot
see where what I need for preserving the session is kept/accessed? As I
understand it, I'm just looking to preserve a cookie for "sessionid" that
will be in the "header" (SOAP header? HTTP header?) sent to me from the
webservice?

I'm lost & frustrated...

[jb]

Brian,

Thanks for the reply.

Is it possible you're wrong, or I'm *totally* misunderstandin g what's going
on? 'Coz now I'm even *more* mystified!

First, forget about SOAP. I think I understand I'm talking about HTTP
headers.

I'm finding, empirically, that my session & state *are* being preserved,
even though I've done nought in InfoPath! Yet you say:

InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie. Debugging at the webservice side, I see a session being created for the
first IP request. Then no new session for subsequent requests, and my WS
sees its Session[] variables as it set them up last request. Session times
out as usual after inactivity for a while, as per web.config.

I switch on debugging in IIS to include showing "cookies". For all requests
(after the first) coming in from IP I see at the end of the trace info all
the "cookies", *including* "ASP.NET_Sessio nId=......." at the end.

This is being passed from IP, right? And the fact it's there is causing the
WS to reuse existing session, right? What am I failing to understand? I
find *all* IP sessions on my machine (no matter what IP form), to the same WS
at least, use the same WS session; any IP sessions from another machine use a
different session.

Maybe I'm not very clear about what I'm wanting/trying to understand. There
are really 2 different things, I don't quite understand how they are related:

1. My WS must see the same session for subsequent requests from the same IP
client (machine will probably do), as indicated by when Session_Start() in
Global.asax.cs gets called. I find this is true. This is vital.

2. My WS sees the same variables/contents in its Session[] bucket for
subsequent requests from the same IP client (machine will probably do). I
find this is true. This is *not* so vital, so long as I know what the case
will be --- I can code as necessary.

I should be *so* grateful if you/whoever would explain.

"Brian Teutsch [MSFT]" wrote:
InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie. You'll have to
receive the web service through script and store the header information into
the DOM somewhere, and handle the cookie get/send yourself. Sorry I don't
have any more information on how to do this, but at least you can stop
looking for something automatic within InfoPath.

Brian

"jb" <jb@discussions .microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

*Please* help --- I'm tearing my hair out.

I want to use sessionstate in a webservice, accessed from a client,
written
in script (JScript, InfoPath).

I have written my webservice (C# .NET). I have marked the method(s) with
EnableSession=t rue. I have read everything there is to read! I am told
that
to reuse session, my client needs to receive a cookie in the header from
the
webservice and then pass this back in all future calls. This can all be
found in HttpWebClientPr otocol.CookieCo ntainer. I am told to "Assign the
CookieContainer to the proxy class" in the web client.

But my client isn't a C# .NET app! It's JScript in InfoPath.

I have written code there to invoke the webmethod via SOAP/XMLHTTP, so I'm
in charge of stuff. The call works fine, minus session stuff. But I
cannot
see where what I need for preserving the session is kept/accessed? As I
understand it, I'm just looking to preserve a cookie for "sessionid" that
will be in the "header" (SOAP header? HTTP header?) sent to me from the
webservice?

I'm lost & frustrated...

[Matthew Blain \(Serriform\)]

I expect you'll have to add the session as a paremeter in the web service
methods. InfoPath is probably relying on something underneath which assumes
that HTTP is stateless, and any shared info can safely be shared across all
calls on the machine--possibly including IE and multiple InfoPath forms.

I have no idea what InfoPath does internally, but this might be a feature
request for future versions. But the inherent statelessness of HTTP means
that relying on sessions may not be such a good idea. Since cookies are not
really part of SOAP (I don't think, I may be wrong), a client can choose to
implement cookie handling any way it wants and still be a perfectly valid
Web Service client.

--Matthew Blain
http://tips.serriform.com/
http://www.developingsolutionswithinfopath.com
"jb" <jb@discussions .microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2B******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Brian,

Thanks for the reply.

Is it possible you're wrong, or I'm *totally* misunderstandin g what's going on? 'Coz now I'm even *more* mystified!

First, forget about SOAP. I think I understand I'm talking about HTTP
headers.

I'm finding, empirically, that my session & state *are* being preserved,
even though I've done nought in InfoPath! Yet you say:

InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie. Debugging at the webservice side, I see a session being created for the
first IP request. Then no new session for subsequent requests, and my WS
sees its Session[] variables as it set them up last request. Session

times out as usual after inactivity for a while, as per web.config.

I switch on debugging in IIS to include showing "cookies". For all requests (after the first) coming in from IP I see at the end of the trace info all
the "cookies", *including* "ASP.NET_Sessio nId=......." at the end.

This is being passed from IP, right? And the fact it's there is causing the WS to reuse existing session, right? What am I failing to understand? I
find *all* IP sessions on my machine (no matter what IP form), to the same WS at least, use the same WS session; any IP sessions from another machine use a different session.

Maybe I'm not very clear about what I'm wanting/trying to understand. There are really 2 different things, I don't quite understand how they are related:
1. My WS must see the same session for subsequent requests from the same IP client (machine will probably do), as indicated by when Session_Start() in
Global.asax.cs gets called. I find this is true. This is vital.

2. My WS sees the same variables/contents in its Session[] bucket for
subsequent requests from the same IP client (machine will probably do). I
find this is true. This is *not* so vital, so long as I know what the case will be --- I can code as necessary.

I should be *so* grateful if you/whoever would explain.

"Brian Teutsch [MSFT]" wrote:

InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie. You'll have to
receive the web service through script and store the header information into the DOM somewhere, and handle the cookie get/send yourself. Sorry I don't have any more information on how to do this, but at least you can stop
looking for something automatic within InfoPath.

Brian

"jb" <jb@discussions .microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

*Please* help --- I'm tearing my hair out.

I want to use sessionstate in a webservice, accessed from a client,
written
in script (JScript, InfoPath).

I have written my webservice (C# .NET). I have marked the method(s) with EnableSession=t rue. I have read everything there is to read! I am told that
to reuse session, my client needs to receive a cookie in the header from the
webservice and then pass this back in all future calls. This can all be found in HttpWebClientPr otocol.CookieCo ntainer. I am told to "Assign the CookieContainer to the proxy class" in the web client.

But my client isn't a C# .NET app! It's JScript in InfoPath.

I have written code there to invoke the webmethod via SOAP/XMLHTTP, so I'm in charge of stuff. The call works fine, minus session stuff. But I
cannot
see where what I need for preserving the session is kept/accessed? As I understand it, I'm just looking to preserve a cookie for "sessionid" that will be in the "header" (SOAP header? HTTP header?) sent to me from the webservice?

I'm lost & frustrated...

[jb]

Matthew,

If you're interested, see my response to Brian above. Thanks for your help.

"Matthew Blain (Serriform)" wrote:

I expect you'll have to add the session as a paremeter in the web service
methods. InfoPath is probably relying on something underneath which assumes
that HTTP is stateless, and any shared info can safely be shared across all
calls on the machine--possibly including IE and multiple InfoPath forms.

I have no idea what InfoPath does internally, but this might be a feature
request for future versions. But the inherent statelessness of HTTP means
that relying on sessions may not be such a good idea. Since cookies are not
really part of SOAP (I don't think, I may be wrong), a client can choose to
implement cookie handling any way it wants and still be a perfectly valid
Web Service client.

--Matthew Blain
http://tips.serriform.com/
http://www.developingsolutionswithinfopath.com
"jb" <jb@discussions .microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2B******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Brian,

Thanks for the reply.

Is it possible you're wrong, or I'm *totally* misunderstandin g what's

going

on? 'Coz now I'm even *more* mystified!

First, forget about SOAP. I think I understand I'm talking about HTTP
headers.

I'm finding, empirically, that my session & state *are* being preserved,
even though I've done nought in InfoPath! Yet you say:

InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie.

Debugging at the webservice side, I see a session being created for the
first IP request. Then no new session for subsequent requests, and my WS
sees its Session[] variables as it set them up last request. Session

times

out as usual after inactivity for a while, as per web.config.

I switch on debugging in IIS to include showing "cookies". For all

requests

(after the first) coming in from IP I see at the end of the trace info all
the "cookies", *including* "ASP.NET_Sessio nId=......." at the end.

This is being passed from IP, right? And the fact it's there is causing

the

WS to reuse existing session, right? What am I failing to understand? I
find *all* IP sessions on my machine (no matter what IP form), to the same

WS

at least, use the same WS session; any IP sessions from another machine

use a

different session.

Maybe I'm not very clear about what I'm wanting/trying to understand.

There

are really 2 different things, I don't quite understand how they are

related:

1. My WS must see the same session for subsequent requests from the same

IP

client (machine will probably do), as indicated by when Session_Start() in
Global.asax.cs gets called. I find this is true. This is vital.

2. My WS sees the same variables/contents in its Session[] bucket for
subsequent requests from the same IP client (machine will probably do). I
find this is true. This is *not* so vital, so long as I know what the

case

will be --- I can code as necessary.

I should be *so* grateful if you/whoever would explain.

"Brian Teutsch [MSFT]" wrote:

InfoPath as a client doesn't respect the session cookie. You'll have to
receive the web service through script and store the header information into the DOM somewhere, and handle the cookie get/send yourself. Sorry I don't have any more information on how to do this, but at least you can stop
looking for something automatic within InfoPath.

Brian

"jb" <jb@discussions .microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
> *Please* help --- I'm tearing my hair out.
>
> I want to use sessionstate in a webservice, accessed from a client,
> written
> in script (JScript, InfoPath).
>
> I have written my webservice (C# .NET). I have marked the method(s) with > EnableSession=t rue. I have read everything there is to read! I am told > that
> to reuse session, my client needs to receive a cookie in the header from > the
> webservice and then pass this back in all future calls. This can all be > found in HttpWebClientPr otocol.CookieCo ntainer. I am told to "Assign the > CookieContainer to the proxy class" in the web client.
>
> But my client isn't a C# .NET app! It's JScript in InfoPath.
>
> I have written code there to invoke the webmethod via SOAP/XMLHTTP, so I'm > in charge of stuff. The call works fine, minus session stuff. But I
> cannot
> see where what I need for preserving the session is kept/accessed? As I > understand it, I'm just looking to preserve a cookie for "sessionid" that > will be in the "header" (SOAP header? HTTP header?) sent to me from the > webservice?
>
> I'm lost & frustrated...