max-width web page design

[runner7]

After some research and personal testing, it appears to me that if you
want a maximum width for your web page in IE using div's, scripting
will have to be turned on. This being the case, if you are going to
use div's, anyone without scripting turned on in their IE browser
would have to be supplied a single default width, unless you are
willing to have your page extruded to unlimited widths.

If the above is indeed the case, it would be my opinion that table
design, which will give you a max width without the need for
scripting, is superior to the use of div's when you need a max width
to maintain the graphic aspect of your web page within certain
proportions. Otherwise, some screen resolutions will always lose the
benefit of your intended design.

Thus, it appears for this particular need that the most recent html/
css recommendations for design are still inferior to table design due
to lack of implementation in IE. The latest recommendations are no
doubt superior for the purposes of standardization and control in
theoretical browser behavior, but to get the specific behavior
described here now, table design still appears to be superior.

This post is not to put down IE which has often made my life much
easier than Firefox, but not in this case. I would be interested in
any, hopefully well-informed, comments on this post, especially from
anyone who might know of any way to indeed get a max page width in IE
using div's, but with scripting turned off.

[Bergamot]

ru*****@fastmail.fm wrote:

After some research and personal testing, it appears to me that if you
want a maximum width for your web page in IE using div's, scripting
will have to be turned on.

Only for IE 6 or older versions. IE7 supports max-width.

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Berg

[Bergamot]

ru*****@fastmail.fm wrote:

On Nov 3, 9:51 am, Bergamot <[e-mail]:

>>
IE7 supports max-width.

I just tried the following code in 2 different installations of IE7

It's a waste of time to post a code snippet. Post a URL showing your
attempts.

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Berg

[runner7]

On Nov 4, 10:49 am, Bergamot <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] wrote:

On Nov 3, 9:51 am, Bergamot <[e-mail]:

IE7 supports max-width.

I just tried the following code in 2 different installations of IE7

It's a waste of time to post a code snippet. Post a URL showing your
attempts.

--
Berg

I may do that if I have some extra time. In the meantime, have you
ever actually seen css max-width work in IE7? If so, was some
particular setting needed to make it work?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Bergamot wrote:

You can run these multiple IE versions on Win XP or earlier versions.
Vista has other requirements I don't know anything about. Google for it.

Seems with Vista virtual machines is your only option. (or multiple
boot| machines) ;-)

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

[runner7]

On Nov 7, 10:15 am, Bergamot <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] wrote:

Now, your page claims to have been tested in IE 5.0-7.0, so it appears
that css max-width works in those earlier versions as well

Nope. Only IE7 supports max-width. There are JavaScript hacks that can
make it work in IE6 (possibly earlier versions), but I don't use them.
BTW, that page is not intended as an example of max-width, just a
2-column layout using a particular method. It happens to use max-width.

Berg

But, your 2-column layout appears to depend on max-width, so does it
really work in IE 5 and 6 or not?

[rf]

<ru*****@fastmail.fmwrote in message
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On Nov 7, 10:15 am, Bergamot <[e-mail]:

>[e-mail] wrote:

Now, your page claims to have been tested in IE 5.0-7.0, so it appears
that css max-width works in those earlier versions as well

Nope. Only IE7 supports max-width. There are JavaScript hacks that can
make it work in IE6 (possibly earlier versions), but I don't use them.
BTW, that page is not intended as an example of max-width, just a
2-column layout using a particular method. It happens to use max-width.

Berg

But, your 2-column layout appears to depend on max-width,

No it doesn't. Remove max-width and it still works as designed, a two column
layout.

so does it
really work in IE 5 and 6 or not?

The subject of the page, the two column layout, does. Maxwidth, of course
does not but that is not what the "tested in ..." comment is about. That is
about the two column layout.

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Richard.

[Bergamot]

ru*****@fastmail.fm wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:15 am, Bergamot <[e-mail]:

>>
BTW, that page is not intended as an example of max-width, just a
2-column layout using a particular method. It happens to use max-width.

But, your 2-column layout appears to depend on max-width,

No, it does not. The max-width has nothing to do with the 2-column
layout. Take max-width out and you still have 2 columns.

so does it
really work in IE 5 and 6 or not?

The 2 columns work fine, which is what that page is all about. The
layout just stretches to fill the viewport instead of stopping at 45ems
(or whatever max-width happens to be).

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Berg