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Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..

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Jun 13 '06 #1
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:51:59 +0300, "Joni Nieminen"
<jo***********@pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..


You don't need SQL-server for a forum, but you do need server-side
processing and some sort of database. Assuming budget is an issue for
you, you could try looking at some of these:

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
Jun 13 '06 #2

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"D. Stussy" <sp**@bde-arc.ampr.org> kirjoitti viestissä
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Stephen Poley wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:51:59 +0300, "Joni Nieminen"
<jo***********@pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..
You don't need SQL-server for a forum, but you do need server-side
processing and some sort of database. Assuming budget is an issue for
you, you could try looking at some of these:

http://www.opensourcecms.com/


Actually, you don't even need the database! One can set up the forum

areas as local newsgroups and access them via PHP's extensions for NNTP. This
arrangement has the side-effect that if one wanted to link them to that of
other sites, all one has to do is remove the restrictions on transferring them (in the newserver configuration; I'm thinking of inn).


Thank you of those informations but I dont understand those terms :D
Im just kid.. Can you give me complete html sites wich I need?
Jun 14 '06 #3

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"D. Stussy" <sp**@bde-arc.ampr.org> kirjoitti viestissä
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Joni Nieminen wrote:
"D. Stussy" <sp**@bde-arc.ampr.org> kirjoitti viestissä
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Stephen Poley wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:51:59 +0300, "Joni Nieminen"
> <jo***********@pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
>
> >Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little > >javascript..
>
> You don't need SQL-server for a forum, but you do need server-side
> processing and some sort of database. Assuming budget is an issue for > you, you could try looking at some of these:
>
> http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Actually, you don't even need the database! One can set up the forum areas as
local newsgroups and access them via PHP's extensions for NNTP. This
arrangement has the side-effect that if one wanted to link them to that of other sites, all one has to do is remove the restrictions on
transferring them
(in the newserver configuration; I'm thinking of inn).


Thank you of those informations but I dont understand those terms :D
Im just kid.. Can you give me complete html sites wich I need?


PHP is a scripting language. - see www.php.net
NNTP - you're using it now! "Usenet" or newsgroups are transmitted via

NNTP.


I try to understand :) I have already done these sites
http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu and http://koti.phnet.fi/pirjo05
Jun 14 '06 #4

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Joni Nieminen wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..


It's really hard to write a forum. Hard stuff, and lots of it. So don't
write your own, just download and install an existing one, such as
phpBB.

You'll need web hosting that supports PHP and MySQL , but that's not
hard to find.

NB - Keep the version up to date! This sort of forum software is prone
to attacks by hackers and spammers. If you run an old version with
known bugs in it, then you can get hit.

Jun 14 '06 #5

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<di*****@codesmiths.com> kirjoitti viestissä
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Joni Nieminen wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..


It's really hard to write a forum. Hard stuff, and lots of it. So don't
write your own, just download and install an existing one, such as
phpBB.

You'll need web hosting that supports PHP and MySQL , but that's not
hard to find.

NB - Keep the version up to date! This sort of forum software is prone
to attacks by hackers and spammers. If you run an old version with
known bugs in it, then you can get hit.


I solve the problem and did freewebs site and there where forum!

Thank you all!

http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu
Jun 14 '06 #6

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Dear sir,
By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
broadband connection. If you did this, then you could use a
pre-written forum such as phpBB, which I am currently running, and
install MySQL. That would be the simplest way of doing things, but I
guess that a freewebs approach is okay. For your information, freewebs
will charge you soon, as it restricts many different aspects of its
free web pages in order to make money having people upgrade to a real
web page from them. I personally like the concept of being able to
host my own site. Barely any fees (pretty much the only fee is
registering your domain) and complete control over your site.
In any case, you will not be able to code a forum with JavaScript. You
are required to use a server-side programming language, which is most
likely to be PHP. Even if you tried, it still wouldn't work because
JavaScript doesn't have much in terms of using or accessing databases.

To di*****@codesmiths.com / kirjoitti viestissa:
Dear sir,
It isn't necessarily extensive to write a forum script, but it is hard.
I have seen the concepts behind phpBB and phpNuke, and they use a
fairly simple concept of writing to and accessing a database. The
hardest part is probably just displaying the posts in their proper
order and the actual HTML programming to get the pages. Even the
schemes would be harder than just writing the database access and
writing script. I agree, nobody really should have to write another
forum program or script, so use phpBB.

I have the honor to remain your most humble and Ob't Sv't in our war
against the King.

--
Patrick Reilly
1st Coy.
Colonel Seth Warner's Regiment

Joni Nieminen wrote:
<di*****@codesmiths.com> kirjoitti viestissä
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Joni Nieminen wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..


It's really hard to write a forum. Hard stuff, and lots of it. So don't
write your own, just download and install an existing one, such as
phpBB.

You'll need web hosting that supports PHP and MySQL , but that's not
hard to find.

NB - Keep the version up to date! This sort of forum software is prone
to attacks by hackers and spammers. If you run an old version with
known bugs in it, then you can get hit.


I solve the problem and did freewebs site and there where forum!

Thank you all!

http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu


Jun 14 '06 #7

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pe********************@gmail.com wrote:
Dear sir,
By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
broadband connection. If you did this, then you could use a
pre-written forum such as phpBB, which I am currently running, and
install MySQL. That would be the simplest way of doing things, but I
guess that a freewebs approach is okay. For your information, freewebs
will charge you soon, as it restricts many different aspects of its
free web pages in order to make money having people upgrade to a real
web page from them. I personally like the concept of being able to
host my own site. Barely any fees (pretty much the only fee is
registering your domain) and complete control over your site. The only concern I would have with that approach is server sicurity.
You would need a good hardware Firewall and to limit requests to the
server, so you do not get charged for useing to much bandwidth.
But I think running something like Abyss would be ok for a test server
on your local machine for testing sites would be fine.
I would suggest buying a dedicated server.
It means you have it fully sircured and less prone to outages etc etc.
In any case, you will not be able to code a forum with JavaScript.
You are required to use a server-side programming language, which is most
likely to be PHP. Even if you tried, it still wouldn't work because
JavaScript doesn't have much in terms of using or accessing databases. You could also use Pirl and CGI.

To di*****@codesmiths.com / kirjoitti viestissa:
Dear sir,
It isn't necessarily extensive to write a forum script, but it is hard.
I have seen the concepts behind phpBB and phpNuke, and they use a
fairly simple concept of writing to and accessing a database. The
hardest part is probably just displaying the posts in their proper
order and the actual HTML programming to get the pages. Even the
schemes would be harder than just writing the database access and
writing script. I agree, nobody really should have to write another
forum program or script, so use PHPBB.

Yes, I agree PHPBB works well and is easy to use, but the Op of this
thread is just a kid, so he says.
But, their are sites such as http://www.cjb.net that offer free forum
hosting, so you could just create a forum their and post a link to it
on your website.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc

Jun 14 '06 #8

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"Chaddy2222" <ro***********@yahoo.com.au> kirjoitti viestissä
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pe********************@gmail.com wrote:
Dear sir,
By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
broadband connection. If you did this, then you could use a
pre-written forum such as phpBB, which I am currently running, and
install MySQL. That would be the simplest way of doing things, but I
guess that a freewebs approach is okay. For your information, freewebs
will charge you soon, as it restricts many different aspects of its
free web pages in order to make money having people upgrade to a real
web page from them. I personally like the concept of being able to
host my own site. Barely any fees (pretty much the only fee is
registering your domain) and complete control over your site.

The only concern I would have with that approach is server sicurity.
You would need a good hardware Firewall and to limit requests to the
server, so you do not get charged for useing to much bandwidth.
But I think running something like Abyss would be ok for a test server
on your local machine for testing sites would be fine.
I would suggest buying a dedicated server.
It means you have it fully sircured and less prone to outages etc etc.

In any case, you will not be able to code a forum with JavaScript.
You
are required to use a server-side programming language, which is most
likely to be PHP. Even if you tried, it still wouldn't work because
JavaScript doesn't have much in terms of using or accessing databases.

You could also use Pirl and CGI.

To di*****@codesmiths.com / kirjoitti viestissa:
Dear sir,
It isn't necessarily extensive to write a forum script, but it is hard.
I have seen the concepts behind phpBB and phpNuke, and they use a
fairly simple concept of writing to and accessing a database. The
hardest part is probably just displaying the posts in their proper
order and the actual HTML programming to get the pages. Even the
schemes would be harder than just writing the database access and
writing script. I agree, nobody really should have to write another
forum program or script, so use PHPBB.

Yes, I agree PHPBB works well and is easy to use, but the Op of this
thread is just a kid, so he says.
But, their are sites such as http://www.cjb.net that offer free forum
hosting, so you could just create a forum their and post a link to it
on your website.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc


Thanks :D and Im almost 16 years old.. but kid :P That freewebs forum is
good enough.. http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu thats my page... there is no all
stuff in english but finnish is.. I update when I have time and
interesting..
Jun 14 '06 #9

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In article <U6*****************@reader1.news.jippii.net>,
Joni Nieminen <jo***********@pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..


In the early days of the web, Matt Wright developed a web forum
called WWWBoard using Perl scripts, which required no database,
no javascript, just HTML pages with CGI forms calling Perl
scripts. Posts are stored as separate pages with threading
information embedded in each, so no database is needed.

It still exists on Matt's Script Archive at
http://www.scriptarchive.com and although it's primitive by today's
standards, I continue to marvel at its elegance and simplicity.

http://www.scriptarchive.com/wwwboard.html

-A
Jun 14 '06 #10

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ax**@spamcop.net (axlq) writes:
In article <U6*****************@reader1.news.jippii.net>,
Joni Nieminen <jo***********@pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
javascript..
In the early days of the web, Matt Wright developed


.... a huge number of scripts which even he acknowledges (having learned
better) are insecure, poorly written, and should *not* be used.
It still exists on Matt's Script Archive at
http://www.scriptarchive.com and although it's primitive by today's
standards, I continue to marvel at its elegance and simplicity.


What I marvel at is the fact that even today, when MSA's shortcomings
are so well-known and thoroughly documented, people are *still* being
duped into using them.

Do yourself a favor - use the NMS versions instead:

<http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/faq_nms.html>

sherm--

--
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Jun 14 '06 #11

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pe********************@gmail.com wrote:
Dear sir,
By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
broadband connection.


And your ISP doesn't restrict you from hosting services.
Jun 14 '06 #12

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Harlan Messinger wrote:
pe********************@gmail.com wrote:
Dear sir,
By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
broadband connection.


And your ISP doesn't restrict you from hosting services.


Especially true, but I haven't experienced many that restrict you from
port 80. I guess being in Vermont doesn't help.

I have the honor to remain your most humble and Ob't Sv't in our war
against the King.

--
Patrick Reilly
1st Coy.
Colonel Seth Warner's Regiment

Jun 15 '06 #13

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Sorry for Digging up an Old Thread.
But I have arrived here after searching for my Forum (FreeWebs Forum), I was seeing what other FreeWebs forums are available and my forums position on Google.

after reading the replies to this thread my answer is :

I have ran a few forums in the past, Yes some are Hosted for free but these are usually monetized with Google ad's, while some do allow personalisation and the ability to rid these ad's, it can be costly and tedious, but now I have found my favorite hosting service for my forums and it only costs $5 per. month and with the ability to ad adsense ($5 isn't much to generate through adsense) so site fees are covered easily.

I actually run several forums from the one forum, I start a thread and Cloak it with a "Short URL" address (others are available) and then use that thread to start another forum (you will see what I mean if you click the link in my signature).

And the alternative this kid used is FreeWebs, not a great choice as there isn't a forum hosted by them ? maybe he meant a Blog ? and once again there is a lot of fiddling with the script if you want to use Google adsense or other banner advertising.
Jun 28 '06 #14

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