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Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to
use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with Google-only
and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years.

Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are
from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion " groups and all appear to
be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes unchallenged.
I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check from Adobe for
ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way.

I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations ?

MHawley
Feb 14 '07 #1
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no**********@sm yonic.net wrote:
Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to
use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with Google-only
and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years.

Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are
from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion " groups and all appear to
be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes unchallenged.
I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check from Adobe for
ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way.

I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations ?

MHawley
I am sure there are many people out there who would be willing and
able to create such a thing. Just identify them, send along a Google
sized budget and allow a few years for development.

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Phil Nelson
Feb 14 '07 #2
Phil Nelson wrote:

I am sure there are many people out there who would be willing and
able to create such a thing. Just identify them, send along a Google
sized budget and allow a few years for development.
That's hilarious, Phil. You've gotten straight to the point!

I have a smaller size USENET archive (in the sig) for a few years now and
I can tell that it requires enormous amount of upkeep with all the junk
that gets tossed into Usenet daily.

As far as the OP's desire to get an unbiased search is concerned: you can
go ahead and search my archive if you want but please don't expect
Google's reach and retention. For that you need those small things
mentioned in Phil's post!

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Feb 15 '07 #3
In ba.internet www.1-script.com <in************ **********@foo. comwrote:
>Phil Nelson wrote:
>I am sure there are many people out there who would be willing and
able to create such a thing. Just identify them, send along a Google
sized budget and allow a few years for development.

go ahead and search my archive if you want but please don't expect
Google's reach and retention. For that you need those small things
mentioned in Phil's post!
Evidently I should also budget some Microsoft/Google sized bucks for
astroturfing.

MHawley
Feb 15 '07 #4
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed <no**********@s myonic.net>
writing in news:45******** *************** @news.sonic.net :
>
Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to
use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with
Google-only and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years.

Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are
from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion " groups and all appear
to be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes
unchallenged. I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check
from Adobe for ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way.

I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations ?

MHawley
I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at
work. The groups I frequent are on the list that I can access once I am
signed in. If I am looking for a particular group, then I drill down to
the group I want.

Then there's always nntp through a newsreader, or some other Usenet
providers, Supernews and Easynews come to mind.

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Feb 15 '07 #5
Scripsit no**********@sm yonic.net:
Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news?
By sending to three groups where the question is grossly off-topic and by
using a probably forged email address, you indicate disrespect for Usenet
conduct, so it would be immoral to try to help you before you learn to
behave.

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

Feb 15 '07 #6
On 14 Feb 2007 21:29:32 GMT, <no**********@s myonic.netwrote in
<45************ ***********@new s.sonic.net>:
>Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to
use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with Google-only
and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years.

Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are
from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion " groups and all appear to
be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes unchallenged.
I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check from Adobe for
ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way.

I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations ?
Use Advanced Search in Google Groups, and specify the relevant Usenet
newsgroups.

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Best regards,
John Navas
Feb 15 '07 #7
Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:13:16 GMT from Adrienne Boswell
<ar****@yahoo.c om>:
I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at
work.
That must be why I see so few of your articles.

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Feb 16 '07 #8
Troll alert. And some more garbage dumped, over and over- you are the
scurge of of your own complaining. How many times will you write this
tripe b.s? Get a life.

Consider this a prompt for your top post rant! Enjoy yet another
chance to spam the world with your sig...

On Feb 14, 10:24 pm, "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorp...@cs.tu t.fiwrote:
Scripsit nomailple...@sm yonic.net:
Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news?

By sending to three groups where the question is grossly off-topic and by
using a probably forged email address, you indicate disrespect for Usenet
conduct, so it would be immoral to try to help you before you learn to
behave.

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

Feb 16 '07 #9

"Stan Brown" <th************ @fastmail.fmwro te in message
news:MP******** *************** *@news.individu al.net...
Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:13:16 GMT from Adrienne Boswell
<ar****@yahoo.c om>:
>I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at
work.

That must be why I see so few of your articles.
I apparently missed the memo: Now if you post on Google Groups the post is
only on Google Groups, and doesn't flow to USENET and to sonic and
supernews, etc?
Feb 22 '07 #10

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