Authoring to assure that a web page can be saved

[Howard Kaikow]

I often come upon web pages that do not allow themselves to be saved as a
..html file (complete), but do allow themselves to be saved as .mht files.

In some cases, I find that there is no way to save the web page other than
by, say, saving as a PDF file.

What causes this to occur?
What needs to be done when authoring to avoid such a problem?
--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.

[Lauri Raittila]

in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Howard Kaikow wrote:

I often come upon web pages that do not allow themselves to be saved as a
.html file (complete), but do allow themselves to be saved as .mht files.

In some cases, I find that there is no way to save the web page other than
by, say, saving as a PDF file.

What causes this to occur?
MSIE. Using some browser instead exploder might be good idea.
What needs to be done when authoring to avoid such a problem?

Don't know.

--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>

[Jakob]

"Lauri Raittila" <la***@raittila .cjb.net> schreef in bericht
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in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Howard Kaikow wrote:

In some cases, I find that there is no way to save the web page other
than
by, say, saving as a PDF file.

What causes this to occur?
MSIE. Using some browser instead exploder might be good idea.

Because of what???

What needs to be done when authoring to avoid such a problem?
Don't know.

You sure you're first remark is correct?

--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>

jakob

[Lauri Raittila]

in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Jakob wrote:

"Lauri Raittila" <la***@raittila .cjb.net> schreef in bericht
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in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Howard Kaikow wrote:

In some cases, I find that there is no way to save the web page other
than
by, say, saving as a PDF file.

What causes this to occur?

MSIE. Using some browser instead exploder might be good idea.

Because of what???

They most likely are able to save those pages. They are also safe. And
they are better in just about any other aspect too.

What needs to be done when authoring to avoid such a problem?

Don't know.

You sure you're first remark is correct?

This question doesn't parse. I am not first remark. Do you mean if I'm
sure about it is IE that is faulty? No, I am not absolutely sure, but as
OP didn't give URL nor tell which browser he uses, that is very likely.
He also mentioned .mht files.

All other browsers save webpages whitout thinking what they do, MSIE
thinks, and so can think wrongly.

--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>

[Jakob]

"Lauri Raittila" <la***@raittila .cjb.net> schreef in bericht >> >

> MSIE. Using some browser instead exploder might be good idea.

Because of what???

They most likely are able to save those pages. They are also safe. And
they are better in just about any other aspect too.

I agree with your opinion on those other browsers. They are indeed better.

But your reaction still doesn't tell me why MSIE would not save those pages.
Please bear with me and explain....

jakob

[Dave Patton]

"Howard Kaikow" <ka****@standar ds.com> wrote in
news:cm******** **@pyrite.mv.ne t:

I often come upon web pages that do not allow themselves to be saved
as a .html file (complete), but do allow themselves to be saved as
.mht files.
".mht" means you are using MS Internet Explorer.
In some cases, I find that there is no way to save the web page other
than by, say, saving as a PDF file.

What causes this to occur?
MSIE.
For example:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q235589
What needs to be done when authoring to avoid such a problem?

It's not an authoring issue - it's a browser issue.
Get a proper browser, such as Firefox, and use it
when 'surfing'. Only use MSIE when absolutely necessary,
such as checking authored pages for IE-specific bugs,
Windows Update, or pages that you have to use and that
require ActiveX.

--
Dave Patton
Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
http://www.confluence.org/
My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/

[Malcolm Dew-Jones]

Dave Patton (sp**@trap.inva lid) wrote:
: "Howard Kaikow" <ka****@standar ds.com> wrote in
: news:cm******** **@pyrite.mv.ne t:

: > I often come upon web pages that do not allow themselves to be saved
: > as a .html file (complete), but do allow themselves to be saved as
: > .mht files.

: ".mht" means you are using MS Internet Explorer.

: > In some cases, I find that there is no way to save the web page other
: > than by, say, saving as a PDF file.
: >
: > What causes this to occur?

: MSIE.
: For example:
: http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q235589

: > What needs to be done when authoring to avoid such a problem?

: It's not an authoring issue - it's a browser issue.

How is it now an authoring issue? He makes a web page, and people
browsing his website with IE can't save the page using the default IE
browser save options.

Seems to me that most people authoring html pages make all sorts of
attempts to ensure compatability with most major browsers. Are you saying
that in this case he should tell his audience not to use IE?

The MS article mentioned above makes it sound like the issue arises with
html generated by excel, so perhaps he is generating html files that way.
To the original poster I would say perhaps if you run that html through a
converter of some sort the problem would be fixed. I have heard good
words about htmltidy (?) though have not used it myself for a long time.

Or perhaps open the html files with your favourite authoring tool and then
save them after some kind of minor fixup. That might rearrange the html
into something that works when viewed with IE. Who knows...

[Stan Brown]

"Howard Kaikow" <ka****@standar ds.com> wrote in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:

I often come upon web pages that do not allow themselves to be saved as a
.html file (complete), but do allow themselves to be saved as .mht files.

For example? (URL?)

I've never seen this phenomenon.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

[brucie]

In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Howard Kaikow said:

I often come upon web pages that do not allow themselves to be saved as a
.html file (complete), but do allow themselves to be saved as .mht files.

don't use IE and especially don't use it to save pages. it rewrites and
adds extra bits.
--
t h e o f l i t t l e v o i c e s

[Howard Kaikow]

"Malcolm Dew-Jones" <yf***@vtn1.vic toria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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To the original poster I would say perhaps if you run that html through a
converter of some sort the problem would be fixed. I have heard good
words about htmltidy (?) though have not used it myself for a long time.

Nowhere did I say that the pages were mine.
The problem arises at web sites other than mine.