On Apr 16, 1:11 am, "osmium" <r124c4u...@comcast.netwrote:
"James Kanze" wrote:
Apparently the people who coined the term didn't like it too much either.
What makes you say that?
I see I forgot to include the link. There was, however, a definitive
description of that link. It is
http://www.the-interweb.com/serendip...ives/70-The-or...
It includes this:
"Our good intentions have not quite worked out, however"
I used the simple minded technique of reading what they said
on the subject.
Remove the context, and you can make anyone say anything. The
following sentence makes it clear that it wasn't the word
"class" they were unhappy with, but the fact that "Many users
tend to use the term "class", or perhaps "class instance", to
denote an object, [...]".
Note that their native language was Norwegian, but I don't mean to imply
that was a factor. I knew the first usage goes back to at least Simula
67 so I used this search target on Wikipedia.
It's also the term used in Smalltalk (whose author invented the
name "object oriented"). It seems to have met with a great deal
of acceptance, very quickly.
Mantissa, WRT floating point was accreted quickly too.
And works well.
Don't forget, this is a highly specialized, technical
vocabulary.
What's your point??? Simula 67 was before Smalltalk.
It proves acceptance. Alan Kay was apparently happy with the
word.
(I also wouldn't waste my time with the Wikipedia for this.
It's not the most accurate of references.)
If you prefer tea leaves, be my guest. Or we could wander
aimlessly in the desert.
Or we could use original and reliable sources. The Wikipedia is
often useful as a starting point (although it depends -- if
there's the slightest disagreement concerning the subject, it
generally only points to the opinions of whoever got there
last), but it's certainly not a source worth quoting.
BTW: you really should get another newsreader. Your citations
were completely wrong.
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