Hi!
For example:
1)
I want to open a file in a Chinese locale and print it.
2)
The program takes the file name as a command line argument.
Chinese characters are multibyte but I don't know what particular
encoding is used in the argv vector of main.
Once I get an answer to this I expect that the ICU package can help me
sort out the rest.
Any comments are appreciated.
BRs
/Sune 7 3228
Sune wrote: Hi!
For example:
1) I want to open a file in a Chinese locale and print it.
2) The program takes the file name as a command line argument.
Chinese characters are multibyte but I don't know what particular encoding is used in the argv vector of main.
The way locales and filenames work depends on your platform. For
example, it is different on Windows and Linux.
If you are using the standard form of main:
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
}
then the argv array probably contains strings in the current locale's
encoding. If the system is actually set to a Chinese locale, this is
likely to be one of GBK, GB2312, BIG5 or UTF-8. On Windows, it will be
GBK for Simplified Chinese, or BIG5 for Traditional Chinese. On Linux,
it may be UTF-8 if your system is quite recent, otherwise will probably
be either GB2312 or Big5.
In addition, filenames may be stored in different encodings.
Windows typically uses Unicode (UTF-16) to store filenames, though you
need platform specific functions to actually open a file using a Unicode
filename. If the filename contains characters that are not in the system
locale's encoding, then you cannot use fopen to open the file.
Linux uses multibyte strings as filenames, and you can always use fopen
to open them. These days they are often UTF-8, but may also be in a
legacy encoding such as GB2312 or BIG5.
Getting to the point: there is unfortunately no way to tell what
encoding is being used, from the point of view of portable standard C.
You may have to insert some conditional code for each platform.
--
Simon.
Hi,
thanks for being clear and to the point. My conclusion is that I will
have to rely on ICU (IBM's International Components for Unicode) in the
sense that: locales and character sets that ICU can detect and turn
into Unicode (if necessary) will be the locales I support. Going
further doesn't seem feasible. Is this considered bad style/laziness?
Is there any other way?
You seem to be well informed on the subject, so could you please
provide a link where I can find all locales and their supported
characters? What I want to find out is if the so-called invariants are
part of the character set of all locales, or if I will mess things up
if I try to add a file extension such as '.xml' to a processed file?
E.g. a succeeding fopen will fail (as you pointed out earlier) if the
locale is Chinese.
Thanks again
/Sune
Sune wrote: Hi,
thanks for being clear and to the point. My conclusion is that I will have to rely on ICU (IBM's International Components for Unicode) in the sense that: locales and character sets that ICU can detect and turn into Unicode (if necessary) will be the locales I support. Going further doesn't seem feasible. Is this considered bad style/laziness? Is there any other way?
You seem to be well informed on the subject, so could you please provide a link where I can find all locales and their supported characters? What I want to find out is if the so-called invariants are part of the character set of all locales, or if I will mess things up if I try to add a file extension such as '.xml' to a processed file? E.g. a succeeding fopen will fail (as you pointed out earlier) if the locale is Chinese.
Character encodings can be divided into those which are based around
ASCII, where ASCII text is valid in that encoding, and those which do
not allow plain ASCII text to exist unchanged.
ASCII-based encodings:
ISO-8859-1 has 1 byte per character
UTF-8 has 1, 2, 3, or 4 bytes per character
Big5 has 1 or 2 bytes per character
GB2312 has 1 or 2 bytes per character
GBK has 1 or 2 bytes per character
GB18030 has 1, 2 or 4 bytes per character
Non-ASCII-based encodings:
UTF-16 has 2 or 4 bytes per character
UTF-32 has 4 bytes per character
You can usually use a C string (zero-terminated array of char) to store
any of the ASCII-based encodings. The problem with UTF-16 and UTF-32 is
that they have embedded zero bytes, so you could instead use an array of
uint16_t or uint32_t respectively.
wchar_t is 2 bytes on most C implementations on Windows, and is used to
contain strings in UTF-16. wchar_t is 4 bytes on most C implementations
on Linux, and is used to contain strings in UTF-32.
For one of the ASCII-based encodings, you can append ".xml" to the
string using strcat, and not break the encoding.
For one of the non-ASCII based encodings, you need to convert your
".xml" into the correct Unicode format before appending it to the string.
UTF-16 LE: (uint16_t *)(char[]) {'.',0, 'x',0, 'm',0, 'l',0, 0,0}
UTF-16 BE: (uint16_t *)(char[]) { 0,'.', 0,'x', 0,'m', 0,'l', 0,0}
UTF-32 LE: (uint32_t *)(char[]) { 0,0,0,'.', 0,0,0,'x', 0,0,0,'m',
0,0,0,'l', 0,0,0,0 }
UTF-32 BE: (uint32_t *)(char[]) {'.',0,0,0, 'x',0,0,0, 'm',0,0,0,
'l',0,0,0, 0,0,0,0 }
On most systems, L".xml" is equivalent to one of the four above. Which
one it is equivalent to depends on the choices made by your platform's C
compiler and library implementors.
--
Simon.
Simon,
this made me get the part of the picture I was missing. It also made my
program a lot smaller.
Thanks for your patience
/Sune
On 17 Dec 2005 07:31:58 -0800, in comp.lang.c , "Sune"
<su**********@hotmail.com> wrote:
(a contextless answer).
Sune, can you please take note of this:
--
Please quote enough of the previous message for context. To do so from
Google, click "show options" and use the Reply shown in the expanded
header.
----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
Simon Biber wrote:
[...] For one of the non-ASCII based encodings, you need to convert your ".xml" into the correct Unicode format before appending it to the string.
UTF-16 LE: (uint16_t *)(char[]) {'.',0, 'x',0, 'm',0, 'l',0, 0,0}
UTF-16 BE: (uint16_t *)(char[]) { 0,'.', 0,'x', 0,'m', 0,'l', 0,0}
UTF-32 LE: (uint32_t *)(char[]) { 0,0,0,'.', 0,0,0,'x', 0,0,0,'m', 0,0,0,'l', 0,0,0,0 }
UTF-32 BE: (uint32_t *)(char[]) {'.',0,0,0, 'x',0,0,0, 'm',0,0,0, 'l',0,0,0, 0,0,0,0 }
Replying to myself here.
I got UTF-32 LE and BE mixed around. {0,0,0,'.'} is actually big-endian
UTF-32, and {'.',0,0,0} is little-endian UTF-32.
Also remember that these shortcuts assume that your character constants
are in ASCII (or ISO-8859-1), and will not work on an EBCDIC machine.
--
Simon.
Simon Biber <ne**@ralmin.cc> wrote:
# Also remember that these shortcuts assume that your character constants
# are in ASCII (or ISO-8859-1), and will not work on an EBCDIC machine.
Any poor wretch using an EBCDIC machine has enough problems
without Unicode.
--
SM Ryan http://www.rawbw.com/~wyrmwif/
Death is the worry of the living. The dead, like myself,
only worry about decay and necrophiliacs. This thread has been closed and replies have been disabled. Please start a new discussion. Similar topics |
by: ..... |
last post by:
I have an established program that I am changing to allow users to select
one of eight languages and have all the label captions change accordingly.
I have no problems with English, French, Dutch,...
|
by: sebastien.hugues |
last post by:
Hi
I would like to retrieve the application data directory path of the
logged user on
windows XP. To achieve this goal i use the environment variable
APPDATA.
The logged user has this name:...
|
by: Brian Kelley |
last post by:
I have been using gettext and various utilities to provide
internationalization for a wxPython application and have not really been
liking the process. Essentially it uses a macro-style notation...
|
by: Dumbkiwi |
last post by:
I'm trying to get python, unicode and kdialog to play nicely together.
This is a linux machine, and kdialog is a way to generate dialog boxes in
kde with which users can interact (for example input...
|
by: Bernd Lambertz |
last post by:
I have a problem with bcp and format files.
We changed our databases from varchar to nvarchar to support unicode. No
problems so fare with that. It is working fine.
But now I need a format...
| |
by: Zenobia |
last post by:
Recently I was editing a document in GoLive 6. I like GoLive because it has some nice
features such as:
* rewrite source code
* check syntax
* global search & replace (through several files at...
|
by: GM |
last post by:
Dear all,
Could you all give me some guide on how to convert my big5 string to
unicode using python? I already knew that I might use cjkcodecs or
python 2.4 but I still don't have idea on what...
|
by: Chameleon |
last post by:
I am trying to #define this:
#ifdef UNICODE_STRINGS
#define UC16 L
typedef wstring String;
#else
#define UC16
typedef string String;
#endif
....
|
by: laxmikiran.bachu |
last post by:
Can we have change a unicode string Type object to a Tuple type
object.. If so how ????
|
by: marktang |
last post by:
ONU (Optical Network Unit) is one of the key components for providing high-speed Internet services. Its primary function is to act as an endpoint device located at the user's premises. However,...
|
by: Hystou |
last post by:
Most computers default to English, but sometimes we require a different language, especially when relocating. Forgot to request a specific language before your computer shipped? No problem! You can...
| |
by: Oralloy |
last post by:
Hello folks,
I am unable to find appropriate documentation on the type promotion of bit-fields when using the generalised comparison operator "<=>".
The problem is that using the GNU compilers,...
|
by: Hystou |
last post by:
Overview:
Windows 11 and 10 have less user interface control over operating system update behaviour than previous versions of Windows. In Windows 11 and 10, there is no way to turn off the Windows...
|
by: agi2029 |
last post by:
Let's talk about the concept of autonomous AI software engineers and no-code agents. These AIs are designed to manage the entire lifecycle of a software development project—planning, coding, testing,...
|
by: TSSRALBI |
last post by:
Hello
I'm a network technician in training and I need your help.
I am currently learning how to create and manage the different types of VPNs and I have a question about LAN-to-LAN VPNs.
The...
|
by: adsilva |
last post by:
A Windows Forms form does not have the event Unload, like VB6. What one acts like?
|
by: muto222 |
last post by:
How can i add a mobile payment intergratation into php mysql website.
| |
by: bsmnconsultancy |
last post by:
In today's digital era, a well-designed website is crucial for businesses looking to succeed. Whether you're a small business owner or a large corporation in Toronto, having a strong online presence...
| |