Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along
with electronic editions.
When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a
copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very
readable type.
The first section is the rationale, about 212 pages with its own
index. The second section is the standard itself, complete with
appendices and index. TC1 to C99 is included.
There is a one page forward by Dennis Ritchie and a four page
introduction by Francis Glassborow.
The particulars:
Title: The C Standard
Author: British Standards Institution
ISBN: 0470845732
List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
Since it has arrived at Bookpool it is most likely available now from
other sources as well.
<slightly OT>
A similar edition with the C++ standard is due out in about a month.
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news:9e********************************@4ax.com... Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along with electronic editions.
When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very readable type.
The first section is the rationale, about 212 pages with its own index. The second section is the standard itself, complete with appendices and index. TC1 to C99 is included.
There is a one page forward by Dennis Ritchie and a four page introduction by Francis Glassborow.
The particulars:
Title: The C Standard Author: British Standards Institution ISBN: 0470845732
List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
Since it has arrived at Bookpool it is most likely available now from other sources as well.
<slightly OT>
A similar edition with the C++ standard is due out in about a month.
Wow, that sounds great. Would be very nice to have as a collectors item,
too.
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Jack Klein wrote: Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along with electronic editions.
When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very readable type.
Khm. How many trucks deliver it? I mean what size is it?
Attila
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:40:40 +0300, "Attila Feher"
<at**********@lmf.ericsson.se> wrote in alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++: Jack Klein wrote: Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along with electronic editions.
When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very readable type.
Khm. How many trucks deliver it? I mean what size is it?
Attila
Textbook size, several kilos. Can't say for sure how many trucks, it
was on my doorstep when I got home. But it doesn't overtax even my
aging muscles...
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In article <9e********************************@4ax.com>, Jack Klein wrote: Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along with electronic editions.
[cut] The particulars:
Title: The C Standard Author: British Standards Institution ISBN: 0470845732
List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
Since it has arrived at Bookpool it is most likely available now from other sources as well.
I picked it up from the Heffers store opposite Trinity College
in Cambridge (that's in England) last Saturday. I'm not sure
how long the three copies they had had been there then. It was
34.99 GBP (which is a small sum when put in relation to how much
I usually spend on books).
Cheers,
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Jack Klein wrote:
[SNIP] The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very readable type.
Khm. How many trucks deliver it? I mean what size is it?
Textbook size, several kilos. Can't say for sure how many trucks, it was on my doorstep when I got home. But it doesn't overtax even my aging muscles...
Great, thanx. I guess I have to get one.
This rationale part... what does it contain (as a picture)? Like why were
some the decisions made or...?
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"Attila Feher" <at**********@lmf.ericsson.se> wrote: Jack Klein wrote: Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along with electronic editions.
When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very readable type.
Khm. How many trucks deliver it? I mean what size is it?
Slightly larger than one volume of Knuth, next to which it is sitting on
my shelf.
I'm slightly disappointed by the binding, but nevertheless very happy to
have bought it.
Richard
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:13:23 +0000 (UTC), Andreas Kahari
<ak*******@freeshell.org> wrote: In article <9e********************************@4ax.com>, Jack Klein wrote: Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along with electronic editions. [cut] The particulars:
Title: The C Standard Author: British Standards Institution ISBN: 0470845732
List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
Since it has arrived at Bookpool it is most likely available now from other sources as well.
I picked it up from the Heffers store opposite Trinity College in Cambridge (that's in England) last Saturday. I'm not sure how long the three copies they had had been there then. It was 34.99 GBP (which is a small sum when put in relation to how much I usually spend on books).
Ahh, I live about 1/2 a mile from that Heffers! I might buy the C++
standard one, the rationale might be interesting (I still want to know
the rationales for the decisions behind ADL, template instantiation,
export, two phase name lookup, etc., that aren't covered in D&E).
Will the C++ one include the TC1 changes to the standard?
Tom
In article <3f*****************@news.nl.net>, Richard Bos wrote: "Attila Feher" <at**********@lmf.ericsson.se> wrote:
[cut] Khm. How many trucks deliver it? I mean what size is it?
Slightly larger than one volume of Knuth, next to which it is sitting on my shelf.
Not counting pages, it's slightly thinner (!) than "C
Unleashed", but three and-a-bit times thicker than K&R.
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"Jack Klein" <ja*******@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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| Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along
| with electronic editions.
|
| When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a
| copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
[snip]
Great news, indeed.
| The particulars:
|
| Title: The C Standard
| Author: British Standards Institution
| ISBN: 0470845732
|
| List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city
in the world you know :-)).
I'd expect to pay ~$150.00 AUD at that rate <g>.
| Since it has arrived at Bookpool it is most likely available now from
| other sources as well.
|
| <slightly OT>
|
| A similar edition with the C++ standard is due out in about a month.
This is one book I'll definately order - I like to read in bed <g>.
Thanks for the information Jack.
Chris Val You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city in the world you know :-)).
Nonsense! Everybody knows Adelaide is the most livable city.
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This is one book I'll definately order - I like to read in bed <g>.
OK hide it under your mattress and have fun. Bookpool is the best source
for technical books I've found, by the way.
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| >
| > You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city
| > in the world you know :-)).
|
| Nonsense! Everybody knows Adelaide is the most livable city.
Still reeling about the Formula 1 Grand Prix heh! <G>
Cheers.
Chris Val
Chris ( Val ) wrote: You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city in the world you know :-)).
Nonsense! Everybody knows Adelaide is the most livable city.
Still reeling about the Formula 1 Grand Prix heh! <G>
Hey guys! Do not fight over this. ... The best formula 1 race track is in
Hungary. ;-)
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White Wolf wrote: Chris ( Val ) wrote: You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city in the world you know :-)).
Nonsense! Everybody knows Adelaide is the most livable city.
Still reeling about the Formula 1 Grand Prix heh! <G>
Hey guys! Do not fight over this. ... The best formula 1 race track is in Hungary. ;-)
-- WW aka Attila
Grand Prix de Monte Carlo is the first (I think) and the best (I know).
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> Like why were some the decisions made or...?
Yes that is right. The rationale for the previous ISO C standard can be seen
here: http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/rat/title.html
This is an updated rationale
Stephen Howe
> The book is an impressive hard cover, printed in large and very readable type.
I have had this since 11/08/2003 pre-ordered from ACCU conference in April
2003
The C++ one is 2 days late, it should have been here 2 days ago.
Stephen Howe
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Andreas Kahari wrote: In article <3f*****************@news.nl.net>, Richard Bos wrote: "Attila Feher" <at**********@lmf.ericsson.se> wrote: [cut] Khm. How many trucks deliver it? I mean what size is it?
Slightly larger than one volume of Knuth, next to which it is sitting on my shelf.
Not counting pages, it's slightly thinner (!) than "C Unleashed", but three and-a-bit times thicker than K&R.
And by "K&R", you mean K&R2. I was recently shocked to visit my
university bookstore and find that K&R2 is more than twice the
thickness of K&R1. Of course, it has useful information in the extra
pages, too (such as the standard library functions); but it doesn't
look nearly as elegant when it's thicker than many novels! :-)
-Arthur
"Arthur J. O'Dwyer" <aj*@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: And by "K&R", you mean K&R2. I was recently shocked to visit my university bookstore and find that K&R2 is more than twice the thickness of K&R1. Of course, it has useful information in the extra pages, too (such as the standard library functions); but it doesn't look nearly as elegant when it's thicker than many novels! :-)
Take a look at the page counts. Later editions of K&R2 are
printed on thicker paper to make it look bigger.
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Jack Klein wrote: Title: The C Standard Author: British Standards Institution ISBN: 0470845732
List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
Price including delivery to Germany from amazon.co.uk: 31.51UK
Twirlip
In article <87************@pfaff.stanford.edu>, bl*@cs.stanford.edu
says... "Arthur J. O'Dwyer" <aj*@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
And by "K&R", you mean K&R2. I was recently shocked to visit my university bookstore and find that K&R2 is more than twice the thickness of K&R1. Of course, it has useful information in the extra pages, too (such as the standard library functions); but it doesn't look nearly as elegant when it's thicker than many novels! :-)
Take a look at the page counts. Later editions of K&R2 are printed on thicker paper to make it look bigger.
My two copies look almost the same, except for K&R1 is a very early
paperback edition, and K&R2 is the now *apparently* out of print
hardback version, making it a bit thicker visually from the spine,
but the pages seem to occupy about the same amount of space.
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In article <3F***********@earthlink.net>, jo********@earthlink.net says... Grand Prix de Monte Carlo is the first (I think) and the best (I know).
Monte Carlo may be the best spectacle in F1, but it is far, far from the
best racing. It's basically nothing more than the world's most expensive
parade.
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Can I have a ride in your time machine?
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Can I have a ride in your time machine?
Hmm, I'm guessing this might be a "D/M/Y" instead of "M/D/Y"
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Originally posted by Chris \ "Jack Klein" <ja*******@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:9e********************************@4ax.com"]news:9ed2mvgnl- d8***********************@4ax.com[/url]...
| Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along
| with electronic editions.
|
| When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre- ordered a
| copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
[snip]
Great news, indeed.
| The particulars:
|
| Title: The C Standard
| Author: British Standards Institution
| ISBN: 0470845732
|
| List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city
in the world you know :-)).
I'd expect to pay ~$150.00 AUD at that rate <g>.
| Since it has arrived at Bookpool it is most likely available now from
| other sources as well.
|
| <slightly OT>
|
| A similar edition with the C++ standard is due out in about a month.
This is one book I'll definately order - I like to read in bed <g>.
Thanks for the information Jack.
Chris Val
If you are in Australia I would not order from BookPool - although they
offer a good range of books, I have had 3 shipments sent to Western
Australia in a space of 4 weeks and in all packages all books were
damaged (the box was not damaged at all). On the first order, they
shipped replacement books (which also came damaged), and with the second
order - I sent all the books back for a refund. I s/w their customer
service department about taking extra care with the books and packaging
(I even offered to pay extra for betting packaging) - (all my packages
were shipped via DHL).
If you are like me and are fussy about the condition of your books,
then I would recommend either paying the extra price for the book
in Australia and going to an actual bookstore, or purchasing
through bookware.com.au (they are reasonably priced and free
shipping over $120).
Just my two cents
Kristine
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Randy Howard wrote: ra**********@FOOmegapathdslBAR.net says... SP*******************@tnsofres.com says...
I have had this since 11/08/2003
Can I have a ride in your time machine?
Hmm, I'm guessing this might be a "D/M/Y" instead of "M/D/Y" deal, correct?
Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all
parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
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In article <3F***************@made.invalid>, de**********@made.invalid
says... Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
Can anyone name an operating system or well-known software application
that does not display "flagrant ignorance" of said standards?
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LibraryUser <de**********@made.invalid> wrote: Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
In some parts of the world (including the one I am posting from).
:^)
Tomorrow today will be yesterday. =%O
[H-OT]
BTW: the newsserver I am connecting to seems to use GMT (Greenwich Moon
Time that is, not Greenwich Mean Time). :)
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Randy Howard <ra**********@FOOmegapathdslBAR.net> wrote: In article <3F***************@made.invalid>, de**********@made.invalid says... Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
Can anyone name an operating system or well-known software application that does not display "flagrant ignorance" of said standards?
CBF-BRAIN-OS?
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Randy Howard <ra**********@foomegapathdslbar.net> wrote: In article <3F***************@made.invalid>, de**********@made.invalid says... Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
Can anyone name an operating system or well-known software application that does not display "flagrant ignorance" of said standards?
That's the default date format for Postgresql.
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Randy Howard wrote: In article <3F***********@earthlink.net>, jo********@earthlink.net says... Grand Prix de Monte Carlo is the first (I think) and the best (I know).
Monte Carlo may be the best spectacle in F1, but it is far, far from the best racing. It's basically nothing more than the world's most expensive parade.
Nono. That one is the Hungarian Paliament.
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:15:32 +0300, "White Wolf" <wo***@freemail.hu>
wrote: Monte Carlo may be the best spectacle in F1, but it is far, far from the best racing. It's basically nothing more than the world's most expensive parade.
Nono. That one is the Hungarian Paliament.
It's gratifying to see that individual liberties in Hungary are
greater than when John Kemeny left.
Best wishes,
Bob
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:33:24 +1000, "Chris \( Val \)"
<ch******@bigpond.com.au> wrote in alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++: "Jack Klein" <ja*******@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:9e********************************@4ax.com... | Many people, including me, like having hard copy books at hand, along | with electronic editions. | | When I first heard of this book several months ago, I pre-ordered a | copy. It arrived from Bookpool today.
[snip]
Great news, indeed.
| The particulars: | | Title: The C Standard | Author: British Standards Institution | ISBN: 0470845732 | | List price is 34.95UK, 65.00US.
You forgot Melbourne Australia (voted the most livable city in the world you know :-)).
It wasn't me that forgot Australia, it was the publisher. The two
prices I quoted, and only those two were printed on the back cover of
the book. I suppose I could have googled up a web site and spent a
few hours converting to 100 or so different currencies...
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:19:15 -0400, Krisitne
<me*********@dbforums.com> wrote in comp.lang.c: If you are in Australia I would not order from BookPool - although they offer a good range of books, I have had 3 shipments sent to Western Australia in a space of 4 weeks and in all packages all books were damaged (the box was not damaged at all). On the first order, they shipped replacement books (which also came damaged), and with the second order - I sent all the books back for a refund. I s/w their customer service department about taking extra care with the books and packaging (I even offered to pay extra for betting packaging) - (all my packages were shipped via DHL). If you are like me and are fussy about the condition of your books, then I would recommend either paying the extra price for the book in Australia and going to an actual bookstore, or purchasing through bookware.com.au (they are reasonably priced and free shipping over $120). Just my two cents
Kristine
I'm sorry to hear of your experiences. I have bought quite a few
technical books from Bookpool, in fact I only look to other sources
when they don't carry the book I want. And I have literally never
received a book from them in other than perfect condition.
Perhaps your problems lies with some DHL operation along the route to
you location?
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Robert W Hand wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:15:32 +0300, "White Wolf" <wo***@freemail.hu> wrote:
Monte Carlo may be the best spectacle in F1, but it is far, far from the best racing. It's basically nothing more than the world's most expensive parade.
Nono. That one is the Hungarian Paliament.
It's gratifying to see that individual liberties in Hungary are greater than when John Kemeny left.
I am not in Hungary.
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:40:25 -0500, in comp.lang.c , Randy Howard
<ra**********@FOOmegapathdslBAR.net> wrote: In article <3f*********************@reading.news.pipex.net> , SP*******************@tnsofres.com says... I have had this since 11/08/2003
Can I have a ride in your time machine?
Sure. Just move to the Rest of the World, and presto, you're in the
same month as us. Its only your weird americans that put the month in
the wrong place... :-)
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Randy Howard wrote: In article <3F***************@made.invalid>, de**********@made.invalid says... Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
Can anyone name an operating system or well-known software application that does not display "flagrant ignorance" of said standards?
OpenVMS.
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[snip]
Hi Kristine.
| If you are in Australia I would not order from BookPool - although they
| offer a good range of books, I have had 3 shipments sent to Western
| Australia in a space of 4 weeks and in all packages all books were
| damaged (the box was not damaged at all). On the first order, they
| shipped replacement books (which also came damaged), and with the second
| order - I sent all the books back for a refund. I s/w their customer
| service department about taking extra care with the books and packaging
| (I even offered to pay extra for betting packaging) - (all my packages
| were shipped via DHL).
|
| If you are like me and are fussy about the condition of your books,
Yes, I am :-).
| then I would recommend either paying the extra price for the book
| in Australia and going to an actual bookstore, or purchasing
| through bookware.com.au (they are reasonably priced and free
| shipping over $120).
Thank you very much, I will look them up.
Cheeers.
Chris Val
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:01:06 -0400, LibraryUser
<de**********@made.invalid> wrote: Randy Howard wrote:
<snip> Hmm, I'm guessing this might be a "D/M/Y" instead of "M/D/Y" deal, correct?
Illustrating flagrant ignorance of ISO standards for dates by all parties concerned. :-) Today is 2003-09-13
And even for antifurrin(er) Merkins, ANSI X3.30 and FIPS 4 specify
y-m-d, and IIRC did so before ISO 8601. They don't specify time (of
day), or the interval and period stuff, or weeks, though.
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Let's talk about the concept of autonomous AI software engineers and no-code agents. These AIs are designed to manage the entire lifecycle of a software development project—planning, coding, testing,...
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The next Access Europe User Group meeting will be on Wednesday 1 May 2024 starting at 18:00 UK time (6PM UTC+1) and finishing by 19:30 (7.30PM).
In this session, we are pleased to welcome a new...
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I have .net C# application in which I am extracting data from word file and save it in database particularly. To store word all data as it is I am converting the whole word file firstly in HTML and...
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Hello
I'm a network technician in training and I need your help.
I am currently learning how to create and manage the different types of VPNs and I have a question about LAN-to-LAN VPNs.
The...
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by: adsilva |
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A Windows Forms form does not have the event Unload, like VB6. What one acts like?
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Hai team
i want code for transfer the data from one system to another through IP address by using C# our system has to for every 5mins then we have to update the data what the data is updated ...
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How can i add a mobile payment intergratation into php mysql website.
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