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FAQ says no attachments - time to change ?


Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

It's time for a change. I reccomend that the faq-5.4 bullet be changed:

http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lit...t.html#faq-5.4

from:

Do not post "attachment s."

to:

Attachments of small files of code to allow for easy addition and
extraction is recommended as an alternative of posting files in-line.
Any attached files should remain small and essentially form part of the
context of the question.
.....
Anyone disagree ?
Jun 5 '07 #1
130 3370
In article <4664e716$0$224 37$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au >, gi*******@maria ni.ws says...
>
Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.
The problem isn't with newsreaders -- it's that quite a few news servers
strip all attachments in newsgroups outside the 'binaries' hierarchies.
As such, even though most of us use newsreaders that could handle them,
we'd never see the attachments at all.

--
Later,
Jerry.

The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
Jun 5 '07 #2
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:31:18 +1000, Gianni Mariani
<gi*******@mari ani.wswrote in comp.lang.c++:
>
Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

It's time for a change. I reccomend that the faq-5.4 bullet be changed:
No, it's not.
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lit...t.html#faq-5.4

from:

Do not post "attachment s."

to:

Attachments of small files of code to allow for easy addition and
extraction is recommended as an alternative of posting files in-line.
Any attached files should remain small and essentially form part of the
context of the question.
....
Anyone disagree ?
I do. In addition to agreeing with Jerry's response, I don't open
attachments from strangers. Even though I don't use a web browser as
a newsreader.

Besides, once the camel's nose is in the tent, you'll start seeing a
lot of attachments that aren't just source code files.

--
Jack Klein
Home: http://JK-Technology.Com
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alt.comp.lang.l earn.c-c++
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Jun 5 '07 #3
Gianni Mariani wrote:
>
Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

It's time for a change. I reccomend that the faq-5.4 bullet be changed:
No.
>
Anyone disagree ?
Many I would imagine. Anyone unfortunate enough to be using windows
would be very cautious opening attachments.

--
Ian Collins.
Jun 5 '07 #4

"Jerry Coffin" <jc*****@taeus. comwrote in message
news:MP******** *************** *@news.sunsite. dk...
In article <4664e716$0$224 37$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au >, gi*******@maria ni.ws says...
>>
Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

The problem isn't with newsreaders -- it's that quite a few news servers
strip all attachments in newsgroups outside the 'binaries' hierarchies.
As such, even though most of us use newsreaders that could handle them,
we'd never see the attachments at all.

In some cases, servers will not even post messages containing attachments.

>
--
Later,
Jerry.

The universe is a figment of its own imagination.

Jun 5 '07 #5
Ian Collins wrote:
Gianni Mariani wrote:
>Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

It's time for a change. I reccomend that the faq-5.4 bullet be changed:
No.
>Anyone disagree ?

Many I would imagine. Anyone unfortunate enough to be using windows
would be very cautious opening attachments.
My newsreader (Thunderbird) shows CPP files inline. There is no need to
open it. It's very convenient.

Jun 5 '07 #6
Jerry Coffin wrote:
In article <4664e716$0$224 37$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au >, gi*******@maria ni.ws says...
>Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

The problem isn't with newsreaders -- it's that quite a few news servers
strip all attachments in newsgroups outside the 'binaries' hierarchies.
As such, even though most of us use newsreaders that could handle them,
we'd never see the attachments at all.
Is it not time to get those news servers fixed ?

It appears the reasons we choose not to use the technology we have at
hand is because we're too lazy to make better use of them.

Jun 5 '07 #7
On Jun 5, 6:31 am, Gianni Mariani <gi3nos...@mari ani.wswrote:
Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.
It's time for a change. I reccomend that the faq-5.4 bullet be changed:
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lit...t.html#faq-5.4
from:
Do not post "attachment s."
to:
Attachments of small files of code to allow for easy addition and
extraction is recommended as an alternative of posting files in-line.
Any attached files should remain small and essentially form part of the
context of the question.
....
Anyone disagree ?
Definitly. I do not open attachments, even in email, unless I
know the source; I would never open one posted in a newsgroup.

And I have absolutly no problem "extracting " bits of source code
embedded in the text of a message, even though I'm reading and
posting via Google (which as many can attest to, isn't the best
newsreading interface in the world).

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Jun 5 '07 #8
Gianni Mariani wrote:
Jerry Coffin wrote:
>In article <4664e716$0$224 37$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.a u>, gi*******@maria ni.ws says...
>>Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract
code from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any
news reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such
old antiquated rules.

The problem isn't with newsreaders -- it's that quite a few news
servers strip all attachments in newsgroups outside the 'binaries'
hierarchies. As such, even though most of us use newsreaders that
could handle them, we'd never see the attachments at all.

Is it not time to get those news servers fixed ?

It appears the reasons we choose not to use the technology we have at
hand is because we're too lazy to make better use of them.
Well, I think it's not a matter of fixing... many servers are just free
services, like the one that I'm using, and either include the access to
binary newsgroups for a fee, or prevent it at all. It also a matter of
traffic, not handling the binary newsgroups the server can reduce a lot
the workload.

Unfortunately, usenet it''s a quite old technology and it has got some
technical limitations in it.

Regards,

Zeppe
Jun 5 '07 #9
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:31:18 +1000, Gianni Mariani wrote:
>
Attached example CPP files makes it easier to post code and extract code
from posts. It's unimaginable at this time where virtually any news
reader is capable of dealing with attachments to stick with such old
antiquated rules.

It's time for a change.
Well, I'll not disagree any more than others already did :-) But I'm
curious: why do you find that easier? (I may sort of understand the
"extract" part, but as to posting... any decent newsreader will offer
you to chose whether you want to attach the file or paste its contents
inline)

--
Gennaro Prota -- C++ Developer, For Hire
https://sourceforge.net/projects/breeze/
(replace 'address' with 'name.surname' to mail)
Jun 5 '07 #10

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