I guess it just depends who you are...

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On 20 Mar, 17:49, "Douglas Gregor" <doug.gre...@gm ail.comwrote:

On Mar 19, 1:48 pm, "kwikius" <a...@servocomm .freeserve.co.u kwrote:

The complexity of current C++ compilers is a known problem. Its
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<Jedi mind trick>This is not the straw you are looking for.</Jedi mind
trick>

I don't understand the above comment and annotations etc. Perhaps you
could spell out less cryptically what you mean here?

regards
Andy Little

[Jim Langston]

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On 20 Mar, 17:49, "Douglas Gregor" <doug.gre...@gm ail.comwrote:

On Mar 19, 1:48 pm, "kwikius" <a...@servocomm .freeserve.co.u kwrote:

The complexity of current C++ compilers is a known problem. Its
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back.

<Jedi mind trick>This is not the straw you are looking for.</Jedi mind
trick>

I don't understand the above comment and annotations etc. Perhaps you
could spell out less cryptically what you mean here?

"kwikius" <an**@servocomm .freeserve.co.u kwrote in message
news:11******** ************@o5 g2000hsb.google groups.com...

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Since several of my posts on this to comp.std.c++ on this subject have
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And Fuck you too ... V

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On 20 Mar, 17:49, "Douglas Gregor" <doug.gre...@gm ail.comwrote:
On Mar 19, 1:48 pm, "kwikius" <a...@servocomm .freeserve.co.u kwrote:

The complexity of current C++ compilers is a known problem. Its
difficult to predict which straw it is that will break the camels
back.

<Jedi mind trick>This is not the straw you are looking for.</Jedi mind
trick>

I don't understand the above comment and annotations etc. Perhaps you
could spell out less cryptically what you mean here?

"kwikius" <a...@servocomm .freeserve.co.u kwrote in message

news:11******** ************@o5 g2000hsb.google groups.com...

As I understand it posts to comp.std.c++ shouldnt contain personal
attacks.

Since several of my posts on this to comp.std.c++ on this subject have
now been simply ignored with out any reply by the comp.std.c++
moderators I'll repost it here for the record:

And Fuck you too ... V
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Do not top post. Message rearranged. The only one I see doing a personal
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I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:

http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt

I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
as a personal attack by me on anybody.

Douglas Gregors comment does however seem to be some sort of personal
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asking for clarification of what he meant, but my posts have simply
been ignored. No explanation given.

I have on several occasions tried to be supportive of the Concepts
proposals.

Overall the policy that seems to have been adopted of simply ignoring
my posts about this matter is curious to say the least.

regards
Andy Little

[Bo Persson]

kwikius wrote:
:: On 7 Apr, 09:59, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rock etmail.comwrote :
:::
::: Do not top post. Message rearranged. The only one I see doing a
::: personal attack is you, andy.
::
:: I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:
::
:: http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt
::
:: I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
:: as a personal attack by me on anybody.

No, but you say here that the comp.std.c++ moderators are somehow ignoring
you. That goes totally against my experience, that whenever I say something
slightly inappropriate or off-topic, the posts are promptly returned.

::
:: Douglas Gregors comment does however seem to be some sort of personal
:: attack on me. Maybe I have that wrong.

You probably do, yes.

I guess you haven't seen the original Star Wars series of movies. There,
this "Jedi mind trick" is just a way of saying "go look somewhere else".
Bo Persson

[James Kanze]

On Apr 8, 10:54 am, "Bo Persson" <[e-mail] te:

kwikius wrote:

:: On 7 Apr, 09:59, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rock etmail.comwrote :

::: Do not top post. Message rearranged. The only one I see doing a
::: personal attack is you, andy.

:: I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:

::http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt

:: I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
:: as a personal attack by me on anybody.

No, but you say here that the comp.std.c++ moderators are somehow ignoring
you. That goes totally against my experience, that whenever I say something
slightly inappropriate or off-topic, the posts are promptly returned.

I don't know. The way moderation is applied there has changed
over the last six months or a year. I'll admit that I've given
up on the moderated group as well; it just doesn't correspond to
what I expect any more, and the reasons that pushed for
moderation to begin with don't seem pertinent any more either.

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* James Kanze:

On Apr 8, 10:54 am, "Bo Persson" <[e-mail] te:

>kwikius wrote:

>:: On 7 Apr, 09:59, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rock etmail.comwrote :

>::: Do not top post. Message rearranged. The only one I see doing a
::: personal attack is you, andy.

>:: I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:

>::http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt

>:: I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
:: as a personal attack by me on anybody.

>No, but you say here that the comp.std.c++ moderators are somehow ignoring
you. That goes totally against my experience, that whenever I say something
slightly inappropriate or off-topic, the posts are promptly returned.

I don't know. The way moderation is applied there has changed
over the last six months or a year. I'll admit that I've given
up on the moderated group as well; it just doesn't correspond to
what I expect any more, and the reasons that pushed for
moderation to begin with don't seem pertinent any more either.

As I understood Andy his articles have just disappeared. That may be a
technical problem. How to deal with it is a FAQ: <url:
http://www.comeaucompu ting.com/csc/faq.html#A4>. I'd suggest contacting

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* kwikius:

>
I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:

http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt

I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
as a personal attack by me on anybody.

Douglas Gregors comment does however seem to be some sort of personal
attack on me. Maybe I have that wrong. I have posted to comp.std.c++
asking for clarification of what he meant, but my posts have simply
been ignored. No explanation given.

I have on several occasions tried to be supportive of the Concepts
proposals.

Overall the policy that seems to have been adopted of simply ignoring
my posts about this matter is curious to say the least.

Try contacting Fergus Henderson and/or James Dennett (active
moderators). See the comp.std.c++ FAQ.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

[James Kanze]

On Apr 8, 1:02 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" <[e-mail] rote:

* James Kanze:

On Apr 8, 10:54 am, "Bo Persson" <[e-mail] te:

kwikius wrote:

:: On 7 Apr, 09:59, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rock etmail.comwrote :

::: Do not top post. Message rearranged. The only one I see doing a
::: personal attack is you, andy.

:: I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:

::http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt

:: I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
:: as a personal attack by me on anybody.

No, but you say here that the comp.std.c++ moderators are somehow ignoring
you. That goes totally against my experience, that whenever I say something
slightly inappropriate or off-topic, the posts are promptly returned.

I don't know. The way moderation is applied there has changed
over the last six months or a year. I'll admit that I've given
up on the moderated group as well; it just doesn't correspond to
what I expect any more, and the reasons that pushed for
moderation to begin with don't seem pertinent any more either.

As I understood Andy his articles have just disappeared. That
may be a technical problem. How to deal with it is a FAQ:
<url:http://www.comeaucompu ting.com/csc/faq.html#A4>. I'd
suggest contacting

Someone:-).

I'll admit that I misread his posting. I've no problem with
comp.std.c++. To date, at least. And even in
comp.lang.c++.m oderated (which is the group I've abandonned), I
can't imagine all articles disappearing. There may be aspects
of the way moderation is applied that I don't agree with, but
rejections still get notified (and aren't automatic just because
one of the moderators "doesn't like you", or whatever).

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[Alf P. Steinbach]

* James Kanze:

>
I've no problem with
comp.std.c++. To date, at least. And even in
comp.lang.c++.m oderated (which is the group I've abandonned),

Well James, you're a moderator of that group you say you've abandonded:
what's wrong?

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

[kwikius]

On 8 Apr, 12:08, "Alf P. Steinbach" <[e-mail] rote:

* kwikius:

I have reread the original thread to comp.std.c++:

http://tinyurl.com/3xyqpt

I don't see anything I said in there that could be remotely construed
as a personal attack by me on anybody.

Douglas Gregors comment does however seem to be some sort of personal
attack on me. Maybe I have that wrong. I have posted to comp.std.c++
asking for clarification of what he meant, but my posts have simply
been ignored. No explanation given.

I have on several occasions tried to be supportive of the Concepts
proposals.

Overall the policy that seems to have been adopted of simply ignoring
my posts about this matter is curious to say the least.

Try contacting Fergus Henderson and/or James Dennett (active
moderators). See the comp.std.c++ FAQ.

Thanks. I have tried this already but now tried again.

regards
Andy Little