Bjarne Stroustrup (The Creator of C++): The C++ Programming Language - Third Edition

[CoreyWhite]

I bought this book years ago, when I was just learning C++. Since
then I've gone through every math course offered at my college, taken
courses on coding C & thinking in terms how how to make the smallest
tightest algorithms to preform specific functions. I've also grown
and matured a lot, and am wiser and older. I'm reading through the C+
+ Programming Language, Third Edition now, and I can actually
understand it. I can understand it because I'm already familiar with
the language. I know how to use pointers, and know what stacks,
templates, classes, and vectors are. I know how to use them. The
trouble is I don't have a lot of experience using high level object
oriented language, and haven't built any projects of my own using the
techniques. I can see why it is a good idea to think in terms of the
best algorithm you could use to write a program with C++. Because
with another language like PHP you might be able to write the same
code with just a few lines. So without all of the object oriented
tools that seperate C++ from its predecessor, C is a dead language.
It would take pages and pages of C to write some very simple code, and
you would still have to understand low level binary manipulations.

So what I am going to do is come up with a short notebook on what I
get from reading through the C++ Programming Language, -Third
Edition-, and explain to people why object oriented programming is the
shit, and teach them how to use it with clear examples that illustrate
why using vectors, templates, & classes, allow us to do so much more.
Most of the programs will probably be basic string manipulations or
simple algorithms that C++ has a hard time doing without object
oriented programming. But I will try to go over some of the basics of
C, step-by-step, and cover the useful tools that are hard to
understand like pointers and binary operators. Some of the subtleties
of the language, are the most useful parts of it.

I would be interested in learning if anyone else wants to pick up the
higher levels of C++ and work with me in this project? I know some
people posting to comp.lang.c++ already know the language by heart,
but I mostly work with reference books by my side. I guess there is
an old saying: Those who can't do, TEACH!.

[dave_mikesell]

On Mar 30, 8:29 am, "CoreyWhite " <CoreyWh...@gma il.comwrote:

[removed alt.magick, alt.religion.wi cca, alt.magick.virt ual-adepts,
comp.lang.c from the reply list]

So what I am going to do is come up with a short notebook on what I
get from reading through the C++ Programming Language, -Third
Edition-, and explain to people why object oriented programming is the
shit, and teach them how to use it with clear examples that illustrate
why using vectors, templates, & classes, allow us to do so much more.

<snip>

I would be interested in learning if anyone else wants to pick up the
higher levels of C++ and work with me in this project?

Not trying to let the air out of your balloon, but do you know how
many C++ books already exist?

http://accu.org/index.php/book_revie...t&term=C%2b%2b

http://accu.org/index.php/book_revie...vanced+c%2b%2b

http://accu.org/index.php/book_reviews?ur l=search.xqy?fi eld=subject&ter m=beginner's+c% 2b%2b

[red floyd]

CoreyWhite wrote:

[blather redacted]

And the fact that you saw fit to spam this to alt.magic,
alt.religion.wi cca, alt.magick.virt al-adepts, and comp.lang.c makes it
clear that this is no better than any of your other blathering.

[Nick Keighley]

this was posted to the following ngs
alt.magick,comp .lang.c++,alt.r eligion.wicca,a lt.magick.virtu al-
adepts,comp.lan g.c

this seems an odd collection
CoreyWhite wrote:

<snip>

So without all of the object oriented
tools that seperate C++ from its predecessor, C is a dead language.
It would take pages and pages of C to write some very simple code, and
you would still have to understand low level binary manipulations.

that's fighting talk in comp.lang.c!

So what I am going to do is come up with a short notebook on what I
get from reading through the C++ Programming Language, -Third
Edition-, and explain to people why object oriented programming is the
shit, and teach them how to use it with clear examples that illustrate
why using vectors, templates, & classes, allow us to do so much more.

<snip>

you should probably confine this to comp.lang.c++
--
Nick Keighley

[Richard Heathfield]

Nick Keighley said:

this was posted to the following ngs
alt.magick,comp .lang.c++,alt.r eligion.wicca,a lt.magick.virtu al-
adepts,comp.lan g.c

this seems an odd collection

Yes, it smells to me like some kind of bridge.

CoreyWhite wrote:

<snip>

>So without all of the object oriented
tools that seperate C++ from its predecessor, C is a dead language.
It would take pages and pages of C to write some very simple code,
and you would still have to understand low level binary
manipulation s.

that's fighting talk in comp.lang.c!

So now it's our turn.

>So what I am going to do is come up with a short notebook on what I
get from reading through the C++ Programming Language, -Third
Edition-, and explain to people why object oriented programming is
the shit, and teach them how to use it with clear examples that
illustrate why using vectors, templates, & classes, allow us to do so
much more.

<snip>

you should probably confine this to comp.lang.c++

Either that, or remove one particular instance of "the" from the quoted
paragraph. C programmers will have no difficulty identifying which one
I mean.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at the above domain, - www.

[Bill Pursell]

On 30 Mar, 16:36, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail].i nvalidwrote:

CoreyWhite wrote:

So what I am going to do is come up with a short notebook on what I
get from reading through the C++ Programming Language, -Third
Edition-, and explain to people why object oriented programming is
the shit, and teach them how to use it with clear examples that
illustrate why using vectors, templates, & classes, allow us to do so
much more.

<snip>

>
Either that, or remove one particular instance of "the" from the quoted
paragraph. C programmers will have no difficulty identifying which one
I mean.

I find it interesting that you would write that. In the
past, you've stated that C++ is your 2nd favorite lanuage.
While I have not had much joy with C++ (And in fact have
at times used much fowl language when referring to it,
although I'm starting to warm up to it again and have
taken my Stroustrup down from the bookshelf), I think
the general idea of object-oriented program is
fantastic. It takes many of the ideas that make
up good practices and (tries to) make them more
accessible. Many of the practices that are encouraged
in this newsgroup are object-oriented ideas. I find
it annoying that the OO group have attempted (and
largely succeeded) in claiming to own such practices, but
the whole term "OO" is so nebulous that one never
really knows what it refers to, anyway, but I don't
understand the motive behind your implication.

--
Bill Pursell

[Richard Heathfield]

Bill Pursell said:

On 30 Mar, 16:36, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail].i nvalidwrote:

CoreyWhite wrote:

>So what I am going to do is come up with a short notebook on what
I get from reading through the C++ Programming Language, -Third
Edition-, and explain to people why object oriented programming is
the shit, and teach them how to use it with clear examples that
illustrate why using vectors, templates, & classes, allow us to do
so much more.

<snip>

>>
Either that, or remove one particular instance of "the" from the
quoted paragraph. C programmers will have no difficulty identifying
which one I mean.

I find it interesting that you would write that. In the
past, you've stated that C++ is your 2nd favorite lanuage.

Aye, and so it is. So what? :-)

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at the above domain, - www.

[Mike Wahler]

"Bill Pursell" <bi**********@g mail.comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p15g2000hsd.goo glegroups.com.. .

I find it interesting that you would write that. In the
past, you've stated that C++ is your 2nd favorite lanuage.
While I have not had much joy with C++ (And in fact have
at times used much fowl language when referring to it,

I've never heard anyone quack at C++ before. :-)

-Mike

[Default User]

Nick Keighley wrote:

this was posted to the following ngs
alt.magick,comp .lang.c++,alt.r eligion.wicca,a lt.magick.virtu al-
adepts,comp.lan g.c

this seems an odd collection

Right, which is why I have filters that ignore posts to at least some
of those. Such cross-posts are the work of trolls.

that's fighting talk in comp.lang.c!

Hence trolling.

you should probably confine this to comp.lang.c++

Why, what did they ever do to you?


Brian

[Default User]

red floyd wrote:

CoreyWhite wrote:

[blather redacted]

And the fact that you saw fit to spam this to alt.magic,
alt.religion.wi cca, alt.magick.virt al-adepts, and comp.lang.c makes
it clear that this is no better than any of your other blathering.

Which is why I added filters to remove crossposts to some of those
groups. Naturally, you feeding the troll AND removing defeated that.

Thanks (for nothing).

Brian