Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
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"H.A. Sujith" <su****@localho st.localdomain> wrote in
news:slrncf7icc .2sr.su****@loc alhost.localdom ain: Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
What does that mean to an 8-bit microcontroller with 128 bytes of RAM and
8kB of ROM? C has been ported to all sorts of hardware, many that simply
could not easily fit even a simple TCP/IP stack. No, C should not be
burdened with networking.
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:47:19 +0000, Mark A. Odell wrote: "H.A. Sujith" <su****@localho st.localdomain> wrote in
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Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
What does that mean to an 8-bit microcontroller with 128 bytes of RAM and
8kB of ROM? C has been ported to all sorts of hardware, many that simply
could not easily fit even a simple TCP/IP stack. No, C should not be
burdened with networking.
Humm, file access wouldn't make much sense on such systems either..
Anyway original poster should rather turn to the posix specifications.
"H.A. Sujith" <su****@localho st.localdomain> wrote: Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
Because not nearly all networks are TCP/IP, and when C was first
standardised, even fewer were.
Richard
In <sl************ *******@localho st.localdomain> "H.A. Sujith" <su****@localho st.localdomain> writes: Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
Why TCP/IP?
Instead of trying to answer my question, think about it. It's supposed
to contain the answer to your question.
Dan
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Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.c h> scribbled the following: In <sl************ *******@localho st.localdomain> "H.A. Sujith" <su****@localho st.localdomain> writes:Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
Why TCP/IP?
Instead of trying to answer my question, think about it. It's supposed
to contain the answer to your question.
Umm... I know! I think. Can I answer for the OP?
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Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.hel sinki.fi> wrote in
news:cd******** **@oravannahka. helsinki.fi: Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networking facilities using TCP/IP ?
Why TCP/IP?
Instead of trying to answer my question, think about it. It's supposed
to contain the answer to your question.
Umm... I know! I think. Can I answer for the OP?
Me too, I think because then someone would ask, "Why not DeviceNET" and
then we'd add that to C and next thing you know, C would only be able to
run on hosted implementations .
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Mark A. Odell <od*******@hotm ail.com> scribbled the following: Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.hel sinki.fi> wrote in
news:cd******** **@oravannahka. helsinki.fi:Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
networkin g facilities using TCP/IP ? Why TCP/IP?
Instead of trying to answer my question, think about it. It's supposed
to contain the answer to your question.
Umm... I know! I think. Can I answer for the OP?
Me too, I think because then someone would ask, "Why not DeviceNET" and
then we'd add that to C and next thing you know, C would only be able to
run on hosted implementations .
You are right, but that's not what I was thinking about. Maybe I read
too much into Dan's emphasis on _TCP/IP_?
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Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.hel sinki.fi> wrote in
news:cd******** **@oravannahka. helsinki.fi: >Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
>networki ng facilities using TCP/IP ?
Why TCP/IP?
Instead of trying to answer my question, think about it. It's
supposed to contain the answer to your question.
Umm... I know! I think. Can I answer for the OP?
Me too, I think because then someone would ask, "Why not DeviceNET" and
then we'd add that to C and next thing you know, C would only be able
to run on hosted implementations .
You are right, but that's not what I was thinking about. Maybe I read
too much into Dan's emphasis on _TCP/IP_?
Are you saying that one might ask for built-in UDP support or heavens, raw
IP support? I can hear C getting fatter as we just discuss this.
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Mark A. Odell <od*******@hotm ail.com> scribbled the following: Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.hel sinki.fi> wrote in
news:cd******** **@oravannahka. helsinki.fi:>>Why doesn't the standard library provide (at least basic)
>>networkin g facilities using TCP/IP ?
> Why TCP/IP?
> Instead of trying to answer my question, think about it. It's
> supposed to contain the answer to your question.
Umm... I know! I think. Can I answer for the OP? Me too, I think because then someone would ask, "Why not DeviceNET" and
then we'd add that to C and next thing you know, C would only be able
to run on hosted implementations .
You are right, but that's not what I was thinking about. Maybe I read
too much into Dan's emphasis on _TCP/IP_?
Are you saying that one might ask for built-in UDP support or heavens, raw
IP support? I can hear C getting fatter as we just discuss this.
No, I would not be asking "what?" or "what not?" but instead "how?". But
maybe my answer won't make sense after all.
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