ambient swap template not found.

[Kai-Uwe Bux]

Hi folks,
I am still struggling with the rules for name lookup.
Please consider:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) { // line 12
swap( this->data, other.data ); // line 13
}

};

}

int main ( void ) {
xxx::stupid< xxx::empty > a, b;
a.swap(b); // line 22
}
The compiler complains:

In member function 'void xxx::stupid<T>: :swap(xxx::stup id<T>&)
[with T = xxx::empty]':
file.cc:22: instantiated from here
file.cc:13: error: no matching function for call to
'xxx::stupid<xx x::empty>:
:swap(xxx::empt y&, xxx::empty&)'
file.cc:12: note: candidates are: void xxx::stupid<T>: :swap(xxx::stup id<T>&)
[with T = xxx::empty]
Obviously, the presence of the local swap-method in stupid<T> prevents the
compiler from looking outside for other possible swaps. I was under the
impression that the namespace where T (in this case xxx::empty) is defined
would be searched for a match. But that apparently does not happen. Why is
that?
Best

Kai-Uwe Bux

[Victor Bazarov]

Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:

I am still struggling with the rules for name lookup.
Please consider:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) { // line 12
swap( this->data, other.data ); // line 13
}

};

}

int main ( void ) {
xxx::stupid< xxx::empty > a, b;
a.swap(b); // line 22
}
The compiler complains:

In member function 'void xxx::stupid<T>: :swap(xxx::stup id<T>&)
[with T = xxx::empty]':
file.cc:22: instantiated from here
file.cc:13: error: no matching function for call to
'xxx::stupid<xx x::empty>:

swap(xxx::empty &, xxx::empty&)' file.cc:12: note: candidates are: void
xxx::stupid<T>: :swap(xxx::stup id<T>&) [with T = xxx::empty]
Obviously, the presence of the local swap-method in stupid<T>
prevents the compiler from looking outside for other possible swaps.

No, it does not prevent it from looking. It prevents the compiler
from seeing it.
I was under the impression that the namespace where T (in this case
xxx::empty) is defined would be searched for a match. But that
apparently does not happen. Why is that?

It's called "name hiding", I believe. 'swap' name in the struct
'stupid' scope _hides_ the one in the namespace scope, so while
you're in 'xxx::stupid::s wap', the other one is simply invisible.

V

[Kai-Uwe Bux]

Victor Bazarov wrote:

Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:

I am still struggling with the rules for name lookup.
Please consider:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) { // line 12
swap( this->data, other.data ); // line 13
}

};

}

[snip]

I was under the impression that the namespace where T (in this case
xxx::empty) is defined would be searched for a match. But that
apparently does not happen. Why is that?

It's called "name hiding", I believe. 'swap' name in the struct
'stupid' scope _hides_ the one in the namespace scope, so while
you're in 'xxx::stupid::s wap', the other one is simply invisible.

Thanks a lot for the explanation. However, that leaves me with a problem:
how to tell the template stupid<T> which swap to use. I considered:

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) {
std::swap( this->data, other.data );
}

};

This, I think, will not find specialized/overloaded version of swap for
types not declared in namespace std; and I cannot dump my stuff in there.

Thus, I did:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
void global_swap ( T & a, T & b ) {
swap( a, b );
}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) {
global_swap( this->data, other.data );
}

};

}

This will find the appropriate swap by looking at the argument type. But
introducing the forwarding function "global_swa p" seems clumsy. I would
appreciate suggestions for how to improve upon this.
Thanks again

Kai-Uwe Bux

[Victor Bazarov]

Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:

[..]
Thanks a lot for the explanation. However, that leaves me with a
problem: how to tell the template stupid<T> which swap to use. I
considered:

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) {
std::swap( this->data, other.data );
}

};

This, I think, will not find specialized/overloaded version of swap
for types not declared in namespace std; and I cannot dump my stuff
in there.
Yes, you can.

"17.4.3.1 Reserved names
[...]. A program may add template specializations for any
standard library template to namespace std. [...]"

So, you're totally allowed to specialise 'swap' for your class 'empty'
and put it in 'std' namespace.
[...]

V

[Jon Slaughter]

"Kai-Uwe Bux" <jk********@gmx .net> wrote in message
news:di******** **@murdoch.acc. Virginia.EDU...

Hi folks,
I am still struggling with the rules for name lookup.
Please consider:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) { // line 12
swap( this->data, other.data ); // line 13
}

how bout xxx::swap instead?

Jon

[Victor Bazarov]

Jon Slaughter wrote:

"Kai-Uwe Bux" <jk********@gmx .net> wrote in message
news:di******** **@murdoch.acc. Virginia.EDU...

Hi folks,
I am still struggling with the rules for name lookup.
Please consider:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) { // line 12
swap( this->data, other.data ); // line 13
}

how bout xxx::swap instead?

That would not allow using 'std::swap' for T other than 'empty'.

V

[Jon Slaughter]

"Victor Bazarov" <v.********@com Acast.net> wrote in message
news:af******** ************@co mcast.com...

Jon Slaughter wrote:

"Kai-Uwe Bux" <jk********@gmx .net> wrote in message
news:di******** **@murdoch.acc. Virginia.EDU...

Hi folks,
I am still struggling with the rules for name lookup.
Please consider:

namespace xxx {

struct empty {};

void swap ( empty & a, empty & b ) {}

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) { // line 12
swap( this->data, other.data ); // line 13
}

how bout xxx::swap instead?

That would not allow using 'std::swap' for T other than 'empty'.

V

Then he needs to specialize stupid::swap if T is of empty type to use
xxx::swap?

basicaly

if T is of type empty then use xxx::swap else use std::swap

or whatever

[Kai-Uwe Bux]

Victor Bazarov wrote:

Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:

[..]
Thanks a lot for the explanation. However, that leaves me with a
problem: how to tell the template stupid<T> which swap to use. I
considered:

template < typename T >
struct stupid {

T data;

void swap ( stupid & other ) {
std::swap( this->data, other.data );
}

};

This, I think, will not find specialized/overloaded version of swap
for types not declared in namespace std; and I cannot dump my stuff
in there.

Yes, you can.

"17.4.3.1 Reserved names
[...]. A program may add template specializations for any
standard library template to namespace std. [...]"

So, you're totally allowed to specialise 'swap' for your class 'empty'
and put it in 'std' namespace.

Great! Thanks for that crucial piece of information.
Best

Kai-Uwe Bux