MISRA is looking at doing a MISRA-C++ This is because they were asked to
do it by a lot of people in industry.
They are looking for some people to make up the team (based in the UK)
The team will be made up of experienced industrial high-integrity C++ sw
engineers. They are looking at meeting once a month for about a year.
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Chris Hills wrote:
[...] They are looking for some people to make up the team (based in the UK)
The team will be [..]
You may be looking in a wrong place. Try misc.jobs.offer ed.
If you're not looking to *hire* people but instead to attract them to
some kind of standardisation process, you might consider posting a bit
more explanation. Just a thought...
In article <Ej************ *******@newsrea d1.mlpsca01.us. to.verio.net>,
Victor Bazarov <v.********@com Acast.net> writes Chris Hills wrote:
[...] They are looking for some people to make up the team (based in the UK)
The team will be [..]
You may be looking in a wrong place. Try misc.jobs.offer ed.
Nope.
If you're not looking to *hire* people but instead to attract them to
some kind of standardisation process, you might consider posting a bit
more explanation. Just a thought...
Sorry I thought everyone knew of MISRA-C and therefore would know what
MISRA-C++ would be. Certainly anyone working in embedded systems or
high-integrity systems should do.
MISRA-C is a coding guideline for embedded and safety related C
primarily in the automotive market but it escaped to be used all over
including medical and aerospace. It has been very successful and is now
used world wide. In fact that is hardly a line of automotive C code
anywhere in the world that is not written to MISRAS-C. MISRA has been
asked t do a C++ version so they are looking for people to take part.
BTW MISRA= Motor Industry SW Reliability Association.
see www.MISRA-C.com, there is nothing on the CPP web site as they have
only just started looking at this as of last week.
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Chris Hills wrote:
Sorry I thought everyone knew of MISRA-C and therefore would know what
MISRA-C++ would be. Certainly anyone working in embedded systems or
high-integrity systems should do.
Which would mean that your assumption would have been correct for a
newsgroup dedicated to the development of embedded systems. This is a
newsgroup dedicated to discussion of the ISO standard C++ language.
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Mike Smith
In article <11************ *@news.supernew s.com>,
Mike Smith <mi************ *****@acm.org> wrote: Chris Hills wrote:
Sorry I thought everyone knew of MISRA-C and therefore would know what
MISRA-C++ would be. Certainly anyone working in embedded systems or
high-integrity systems should do.
Which would mean that your assumption would have been correct for a
newsgroup dedicated to the development of embedded systems. This is a
newsgroup dedicated to discussion of the ISO standard C++ language.
Chris, I find your post quite on topic, and thank you for making it.
And yes, I did see it on comp.arch.embed ded as well.
You might also try comp.lang.c++.m oderated. It's moderated by
professionals.
-Howard
In article <hinnant-B508FF.10510230 082005@syrcnyrd rs-
01-ge0.nyroc.rr.co m>, Howard Hinnant <hi*****@metrow erks.com> writes In article <11************ *@news.supernew s.com>,
Mike Smith <mi************ *****@acm.org> wrote:
Chris Hills wrote: >
> Sorry I thought everyone knew of MISRA-C and therefore would know what
> MISRA-C++ would be. Certainly anyone working in embedded systems or
> high-integrity systems should do.
Which would mean that your assumption would have been correct for a
newsgroup dedicated to the development of embedded systems. This is a
newsgroup dedicated to discussion of the ISO standard C++ language.
Chris, I find your post quite on topic, and thank you for making it.
And yes, I did see it on comp.arch.embed ded as well.
You might also try comp.lang.c++.m oderated. It's moderated by
professional s.
-Howard
Thanks Howard.
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In article <11************ *@news.supernew s.com>, Mike Smith
<mi************ *****@acm.org> writes Chris Hills wrote:
Sorry I thought everyone knew of MISRA-C and therefore would know what
MISRA-C++ would be. Certainly anyone working in embedded systems or
high-integrity systems should do.
Which would mean that your assumption would have been correct for a
newsgroup dedicated to the development of embedded systems.
I said embedded or high integrity.
This is a
newsgroup dedicated to discussion of the ISO standard C++ language.
Sorry Mike, My mistake, I thought MISRA-C++ was something to do with C++
standardisation . MISRA-C certainly has become a major influence on C.
On the other hand you are probably right. C++ language "experts"
probably want nothing to do with actually using the language.
When you say embedded systems you mean ones using the 32 and 64 bit
processors and RTOS like Linux, Solaris, Unix and Win CE? Systems with
2 gigabyte hard drives and 500 Mb memory?
But as this NG does not do embedded or high integrity I can only assume
you are only interested in low integrity systems :-)
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Chris Hills wrote: [...]
On the other hand you are probably right. C++ language "experts"
probably want nothing to do with actually using the language.
You know, I am offended by this remark. Not only have you no idea
where to post or how to post, you also apparently have a very strange
sense of how to behave when your mistakes are pointed out.
MISRA-C++ has NOTHING to do with standardisation of C++, a simple
search on 'comp.std.c++' shows that. One mention of MISRA C, and
mostly in derogatory terms (as you should be aware, since you've
participated in that thread).
[...]
In article <UA************ ******@newsread 1.mlpsca01.us.t o.verio.net>,
Victor Bazarov <v.********@com Acast.net> writes Chris Hills wrote: [...]
On the other hand you are probably right. C++ language "experts"
probably want nothing to do with actually using the language.
You know, I am offended by this remark. Not only have you no idea
where to post or how to post,
You think it should not be posted here. Myself and another who commented
think it is relevant. On that straw poll I would say you are wrong.
Having been involved in this NG and standards for over 14 years I do
have some idea. So far you are the only person to complain.
you also apparently have a very strange
sense of how to behave when your mistakes are pointed out.
So do you.
MISRA-C++ has NOTHING to do with standardisation of C++,
I beg to differ (as do members of the ISO C++ panel who have contacted
me by email)
Also this is NOT comp.std.c++ but comp.lang.C++ you might have had
slightly more of a point if it was comp.std.c++ but this NG is for c++
in general which definitely includes MISRA-C++
If you don't like it don't read the posts.
a simple
search on 'comp.std.c++' shows that.
As this is the announcement of the START of MISRA-C++ how would there
have been any mention of it previously?
One mention of MISRA C, and
mostly in derogatory terms (as you should be aware, since you've
participated in that thread).
C is not C++. C is off topic here.
Did you have a similar closed mind when EC++ was mentioned in the past.
As both EC++ and MISRA-C++ I expect will be intimately connected with
ISO C++. EC++ is effectivly a standard and MISRA-C++ is likely to
become one if the C version is anything to go by.
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Chris Hills <ch***@phaedsys .org> wrote in
news:ZJ******** ******@phaedsys .demon.co.uk: In article <UA************ ******@newsread 1.mlpsca01.us.t o.verio.net>,
Victor Bazarov <v.********@com Acast.net> writesChris Hills wrote: [...]
On the other hand you are probably right. C++ language "experts"
probably want nothing to do with actually using the language.
You know, I am offended by this remark. Not only have you no idea
where to post or how to post,
You think it should not be posted here. Myself and another who commented
think it is relevant. On that straw poll I would say you are wrong.
OK... then I vote on Victor's side. I see no Standard C++ content in your
original post. Only a reference to some other group who apparently want to
draw up some coding guidelines, presumably only using Standard C++
facilities. And you follow up with some whiny statement about how the
denizens of comp.lang.c++ don't actually use the language. Very
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