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I have written two windows services:
- service A does some crunching of local data files and uploads them to
a central processing computer via http.
- service B monitors a manifest file on a webserver to see if service A
needs to be updated.

What service B does if it sees their is an update for service A is to
download a new copy of the service A executable, stop service A,
replace the executable with the new copy, and start service B back up.
Everything works fine until that very last step. I can programatically
stop and start the service just fine, if the service A executable was
placed their manually. If service B downloads and replaces the service
A executable, it can't then restart service A. When starting service A
it dies with

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at namespace.Servi ceB.t_update_El apsed(Object sender,
ElapsedEventArg s e)

I am assuming this is just a permissions issue somwhere. Service A and
Service B are both installed with ServiceProcessI nstaller.Accoun t =
ServiceAccount. LocalSystem and Username and Password = null;

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help, i'm a general newb at
windows application development.

Jan 14 '07 #1
4 21740
If service B does nothing more than what you have said then I would suggest
that having that functionality as a seperate service is overkill.

A solid technique is to have service A monitor the need for an upgrade aand
download the upgraded executable as a temporary file. When it has completed
this step, have it use Process.Start to spawn a 'stub' program.

The stub program stops service A, replaces the executable with the
downloaded (upgraded) version and starts service A. Because the 'stub'
program is spawned by service A, it runs under thae same account
(LocalSystem) and so, for the short period of time involved, it needs to
impersonate an account with the necessary permissions.

This means that the 'stub' program only runs when it needs to and you don't
have the overhead of running a extra service.

The logic for the 'stub' program is relatively simple:

static void Main()
{

// Start impersonating a priviledged account

// Stop Service A

// Replace the executable for Service A

// Start Service A

// Cease impersonation

}
<ca****@carsone vans.comwrote in message
news:11******** *************@l 53g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>
I have written two windows services:
- service A does some crunching of local data files and uploads them to
a central processing computer via http.
- service B monitors a manifest file on a webserver to see if service A
needs to be updated.

What service B does if it sees their is an update for service A is to
download a new copy of the service A executable, stop service A,
replace the executable with the new copy, and start service B back up.
Everything works fine until that very last step. I can programatically
stop and start the service just fine, if the service A executable was
placed their manually. If service B downloads and replaces the service
A executable, it can't then restart service A. When starting service A
it dies with

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at namespace.Servi ceB.t_update_El apsed(Object sender,
ElapsedEventArg s e)

I am assuming this is just a permissions issue somwhere. Service A and
Service B are both installed with ServiceProcessI nstaller.Accoun t =
ServiceAccount. LocalSystem and Username and Password = null;

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help, i'm a general newb at
windows application development.

Jan 14 '07 #2
I have implemented Stephany's suggestion, at least I think I have. :)

I now have a single process, Service A, and a "controller " executeable.
The controller code looks like this...

if (File.Exists(s_ downloadFile))
{
alterProcessSta tus("stop");
File.Replace(s_ downloadFile, s_installFile,
s_backupFile);
alterProcessSta tus("start");
}

Where alterProcessSta tus does...

ServiceControll er sc = new ServiceControll er("Service A");
sc.Refresh();
/** all my logic to handle stopping/starting the service
* depending on the process current state along with some
* sc.WaitForStatu s() just to make sure it works.
**/

Service A now handles downloading new copies of "itself" when updates
are ready. When an update is successfully downloaded I kick off a
System.Diagnost ic.Process.Star t(s_controllerP ath); and it does manage
to stop the service and replace the ServiceA.exe with the downloaded
version, however when starting the function I still get..

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at Controller.Prog ram.alterProces sStatus(String arg)
at Controller.Prog ram.Main(String[] args)

Trying to use the Start in the Service Manager gives me the same Access
Denied, the event viewer said "The Service A service failed to start
due to the following error: Access is denied."

I created a rollback function in Controller and it is able to copy the
files back to how they were before the update and restart the process.
This got me thinking, it's obviously not the controllers fault since it
is able to manipulate the service and overwrite the files just fine. If
I manually put my downloaded file in the download location (instead of
letting the service download it) and then let the service run (it
doesn't download a new file if there is already a patch file waiting)
it is able to spawn the process to update itself just fine.

It would seem this is more about how the file is being delivered, not
how the update happens. So, maybe the way I go about downloading a new
file is the issue...

HttpWebRequest webrequest =
(HttpWebRequest )WebRequest.Cre ate(uri_newFile );
WebResponse wr_response = webrequest.GetR esponse();
StreamReader sr_response = new
StreamReader(wr _response.GetRe sponseStream()) ;
StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(ne w FileStream(s_do wnloadFile,
FileMode.Create ));
sw_out.Write(sr _response.ReadT oEnd());
wr_response.Clo se();
sr_response.Clo se();
sw_out.Close();

There is no difference byte wise between this code downloading a file
from my webserver and me placing the file directly in the
s_downloadFile location. This still leads me to believe it's all about
the permissions on the downloaded file. Anyone have any clues? What
tools are there to compare the permissions between two files on XP?

Stephany Young wrote:
If service B does nothing more than what you have said then I would suggest
that having that functionality as a seperate service is overkill.

A solid technique is to have service A monitor the need for an upgrade aand
download the upgraded executable as a temporary file. When it has completed
this step, have it use Process.Start to spawn a 'stub' program.

The stub program stops service A, replaces the executable with the
downloaded (upgraded) version and starts service A. Because the 'stub'
program is spawned by service A, it runs under thae same account
(LocalSystem) and so, for the short period of time involved, it needs to
impersonate an account with the necessary permissions.

This means that the 'stub' program only runs when it needs to and you don't
have the overhead of running a extra service.

The logic for the 'stub' program is relatively simple:

static void Main()
{

// Start impersonating a priviledged account

// Stop Service A

// Replace the executable for Service A

// Start Service A

// Cease impersonation

}
<ca****@carsone vans.comwrote in message
news:11******** *************@l 53g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...

I have written two windows services:
- service A does some crunching of local data files and uploads them to
a central processing computer via http.
- service B monitors a manifest file on a webserver to see if service A
needs to be updated.

What service B does if it sees their is an update for service A is to
download a new copy of the service A executable, stop service A,
replace the executable with the new copy, and start service B back up.
Everything works fine until that very last step. I can programatically
stop and start the service just fine, if the service A executable was
placed their manually. If service B downloads and replaces the service
A executable, it can't then restart service A. When starting service A
it dies with

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at namespace.Servi ceB.t_update_El apsed(Object sender,
ElapsedEventArg s e)

I am assuming this is just a permissions issue somwhere. Service A and
Service B are both installed with ServiceProcessI nstaller.Accoun t =
ServiceAccount. LocalSystem and Username and Password = null;

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help, i'm a general newb at
windows application development.
Jan 14 '07 #3
Yes. You could very well be right.

It might be possible that your download 'mechanism' is not 'releasing' the
file correctly and that could be causing the exception.

Although the StreamWriter.Cl ose method also (is supposed to) closes the
underlying stream, I have heard tell of situations where files are not
'released properly. (I haven't experienced it myself so I don't know what
the circumstances are.)

A couple of things to try:

Change the statement:

StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(ne w FileStream(s_do wnloadFile,
FileMode.Create ));

to:

FileStream fs = new FileStream(s_do wnloadFile, FileMode.Create );
StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(fs );

and add:

fs.Close();

after:

sw_out.Close();

You might also need to add one or both of:

sw_out.Dispose( );
fs.Dispose();

or:

You could try using the WebClient class to do the download, something
like:

WebClient webclient = new WebClient();

// Download the Web resource and save it using the filesystem filename.
webclient.Downl oadFile(uri_new File, s_downloadFile) ;

webclient.Dispo se();

// Note the explicit dispose

or:

using (WebClient webclient = new WebClient())
{
// Download the Web resource and save it using the filesystem
filename.
webclient.Downl oadFile(uri_new File, s_downloadFile) ;
}

The 'using' keyword automatically disposes of the 'using' object
(webclient) at the end of the block.
<ca****@carsone vans.comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ 51g2000cwl.goog legroups.com...
>I have implemented Stephany's suggestion, at least I think I have. :)

I now have a single process, Service A, and a "controller " executeable.
The controller code looks like this...

if (File.Exists(s_ downloadFile))
{
alterProcessSta tus("stop");
File.Replace(s_ downloadFile, s_installFile,
s_backupFile);
alterProcessSta tus("start");
}

Where alterProcessSta tus does...

ServiceControll er sc = new ServiceControll er("Service A");
sc.Refresh();
/** all my logic to handle stopping/starting the service
* depending on the process current state along with some
* sc.WaitForStatu s() just to make sure it works.
**/

Service A now handles downloading new copies of "itself" when updates
are ready. When an update is successfully downloaded I kick off a
System.Diagnost ic.Process.Star t(s_controllerP ath); and it does manage
to stop the service and replace the ServiceA.exe with the downloaded
version, however when starting the function I still get..

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at Controller.Prog ram.alterProces sStatus(String arg)
at Controller.Prog ram.Main(String[] args)

Trying to use the Start in the Service Manager gives me the same Access
Denied, the event viewer said "The Service A service failed to start
due to the following error: Access is denied."

I created a rollback function in Controller and it is able to copy the
files back to how they were before the update and restart the process.
This got me thinking, it's obviously not the controllers fault since it
is able to manipulate the service and overwrite the files just fine. If
I manually put my downloaded file in the download location (instead of
letting the service download it) and then let the service run (it
doesn't download a new file if there is already a patch file waiting)
it is able to spawn the process to update itself just fine.

It would seem this is more about how the file is being delivered, not
how the update happens. So, maybe the way I go about downloading a new
file is the issue...

HttpWebRequest webrequest =
(HttpWebRequest )WebRequest.Cre ate(uri_newFile );
WebResponse wr_response = webrequest.GetR esponse();
StreamReader sr_response = new
StreamReader(wr _response.GetRe sponseStream()) ;
StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(ne w FileStream(s_do wnloadFile,
FileMode.Create ));
sw_out.Write(sr _response.ReadT oEnd());
wr_response.Clo se();
sr_response.Clo se();
sw_out.Close();

There is no difference byte wise between this code downloading a file
from my webserver and me placing the file directly in the
s_downloadFile location. This still leads me to believe it's all about
the permissions on the downloaded file. Anyone have any clues? What
tools are there to compare the permissions between two files on XP?

Stephany Young wrote:
>If service B does nothing more than what you have said then I would
suggest
that having that functionality as a seperate service is overkill.

A solid technique is to have service A monitor the need for an upgrade
aand
download the upgraded executable as a temporary file. When it has
completed
this step, have it use Process.Start to spawn a 'stub' program.

The stub program stops service A, replaces the executable with the
downloaded (upgraded) version and starts service A. Because the 'stub'
program is spawned by service A, it runs under thae same account
(LocalSystem ) and so, for the short period of time involved, it needs to
impersonate an account with the necessary permissions.

This means that the 'stub' program only runs when it needs to and you
don't
have the overhead of running a extra service.

The logic for the 'stub' program is relatively simple:

static void Main()
{

// Start impersonating a priviledged account

// Stop Service A

// Replace the executable for Service A

// Start Service A

// Cease impersonation

}
<ca****@carson evans.comwrote in message
news:11******* **************@ l53g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
>
I have written two windows services:
- service A does some crunching of local data files and uploads them to
a central processing computer via http.
- service B monitors a manifest file on a webserver to see if service A
needs to be updated.

What service B does if it sees their is an update for service A is to
download a new copy of the service A executable, stop service A,
replace the executable with the new copy, and start service B back up.
Everything works fine until that very last step. I can programatically
stop and start the service just fine, if the service A executable was
placed their manually. If service B downloads and replaces the service
A executable, it can't then restart service A. When starting service A
it dies with

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at namespace.Servi ceB.t_update_El apsed(Object sender,
ElapsedEventArg s e)

I am assuming this is just a permissions issue somwhere. Service A and
Service B are both installed with ServiceProcessI nstaller.Accoun t =
ServiceAccount. LocalSystem and Username and Password = null;

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help, i'm a general newb at
windows application development.

Jan 14 '07 #4

Thank you very much, Stephany.

Swtiching my code over the WebClient.Downl oadFile approach made it all
work. I still don't see what in my code was any different than what
WebClient.Downl oadFile does, but hey, it works and my code is cleaner
to boot.

Thanks again!
Stephany Young wrote:
Yes. You could very well be right.

It might be possible that your download 'mechanism' is not 'releasing' the
file correctly and that could be causing the exception.

Although the StreamWriter.Cl ose method also (is supposed to) closes the
underlying stream, I have heard tell of situations where files are not
'released properly. (I haven't experienced it myself so I don't know what
the circumstances are.)

A couple of things to try:

Change the statement:

StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(ne w FileStream(s_do wnloadFile,
FileMode.Create ));

to:

FileStream fs = new FileStream(s_do wnloadFile, FileMode.Create );
StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(fs );

and add:

fs.Close();

after:

sw_out.Close();

You might also need to add one or both of:

sw_out.Dispose( );
fs.Dispose();

or:

You could try using the WebClient class to do the download, something
like:

WebClient webclient = new WebClient();

// Download the Web resource and save it using the filesystem filename.
webclient.Downl oadFile(uri_new File, s_downloadFile) ;

webclient.Dispo se();

// Note the explicit dispose

or:

using (WebClient webclient = new WebClient())
{
// Download the Web resource and save it using the filesystem
filename.
webclient.Downl oadFile(uri_new File, s_downloadFile) ;
}

The 'using' keyword automatically disposes of the 'using' object
(webclient) at the end of the block.
<ca****@carsone vans.comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ 51g2000cwl.goog legroups.com...
I have implemented Stephany's suggestion, at least I think I have. :)

I now have a single process, Service A, and a "controller " executeable.
The controller code looks like this...

if (File.Exists(s_ downloadFile))
{
alterProcessSta tus("stop");
File.Replace(s_ downloadFile, s_installFile,
s_backupFile);
alterProcessSta tus("start");
}

Where alterProcessSta tus does...

ServiceControll er sc = new ServiceControll er("Service A");
sc.Refresh();
/** all my logic to handle stopping/starting the service
* depending on the process current state along with some
* sc.WaitForStatu s() just to make sure it works.
**/

Service A now handles downloading new copies of "itself" when updates
are ready. When an update is successfully downloaded I kick off a
System.Diagnost ic.Process.Star t(s_controllerP ath); and it does manage
to stop the service and replace the ServiceA.exe with the downloaded
version, however when starting the function I still get..

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at Controller.Prog ram.alterProces sStatus(String arg)
at Controller.Prog ram.Main(String[] args)

Trying to use the Start in the Service Manager gives me the same Access
Denied, the event viewer said "The Service A service failed to start
due to the following error: Access is denied."

I created a rollback function in Controller and it is able to copy the
files back to how they were before the update and restart the process.
This got me thinking, it's obviously not the controllers fault since it
is able to manipulate the service and overwrite the files just fine. If
I manually put my downloaded file in the download location (instead of
letting the service download it) and then let the service run (it
doesn't download a new file if there is already a patch file waiting)
it is able to spawn the process to update itself just fine.

It would seem this is more about how the file is being delivered, not
how the update happens. So, maybe the way I go about downloading a new
file is the issue...

HttpWebRequest webrequest =
(HttpWebRequest )WebRequest.Cre ate(uri_newFile );
WebResponse wr_response = webrequest.GetR esponse();
StreamReader sr_response = new
StreamReader(wr _response.GetRe sponseStream()) ;
StreamWriter sw_out = new StreamWriter(ne w FileStream(s_do wnloadFile,
FileMode.Create ));
sw_out.Write(sr _response.ReadT oEnd());
wr_response.Clo se();
sr_response.Clo se();
sw_out.Close();

There is no difference byte wise between this code downloading a file
from my webserver and me placing the file directly in the
s_downloadFile location. This still leads me to believe it's all about
the permissions on the downloaded file. Anyone have any clues? What
tools are there to compare the permissions between two files on XP?

Stephany Young wrote:
If service B does nothing more than what you have said then I would
suggest
that having that functionality as a seperate service is overkill.

A solid technique is to have service A monitor the need for an upgrade
aand
download the upgraded executable as a temporary file. When it has
completed
this step, have it use Process.Start to spawn a 'stub' program.

The stub program stops service A, replaces the executable with the
downloaded (upgraded) version and starts service A. Because the 'stub'
program is spawned by service A, it runs under thae same account
(LocalSystem) and so, for the short period of time involved, it needs to
impersonate an account with the necessary permissions.

This means that the 'stub' program only runs when it needs to and you
don't
have the overhead of running a extra service.

The logic for the 'stub' program is relatively simple:

static void Main()
{

// Start impersonating a priviledged account

// Stop Service A

// Replace the executable for Service A

// Start Service A

// Cease impersonation

}
<ca****@carsone vans.comwrote in message
news:11******** *************@l 53g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...

I have written two windows services:
- service A does some crunching of local data files and uploads them to
a central processing computer via http.
- service B monitors a manifest file on a webserver to see if service A
needs to be updated.

What service B does if it sees their is an update for service A is to
download a new copy of the service A executable, stop service A,
replace the executable with the new copy, and start service B back up.
Everything works fine until that very last step. I can programatically
stop and start the service just fine, if the service A executable was
placed their manually. If service B downloads and replaces the service
A executable, it can't then restart service A. When starting service A
it dies with

System.InvalidO perationExcepti on: Cannot start service Service A on
computer '.'. ---System.Componen tModel.Win32Exc eption: Access is
denied
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start (String[] args)
at System.ServiceP rocess.ServiceC ontroller.Start ()
at namespace.Servi ceB.t_update_El apsed(Object sender,
ElapsedEventArg s e)

I am assuming this is just a permissions issue somwhere. Service A and
Service B are both installed with ServiceProcessI nstaller.Accoun t =
ServiceAccount. LocalSystem and Username and Password = null;

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help, i'm a general newb at
windows application development.
Jan 15 '07 #5

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Let's talk about the concept of autonomous AI software engineers and no-code agents. These AIs are designed to manage the entire lifecycle of a software development project—planning, coding, testing, and deployment—without human intervention. Imagine an AI that can take a project description, break it down, write the code, debug it, and then launch it, all on its own.... Now, this would greatly impact the work of software developers. The idea...
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isladogs
by: isladogs | last post by:
The next Access Europe User Group meeting will be on Wednesday 1 May 2024 starting at 18:00 UK time (6PM UTC+1) and finishing by 19:30 (7.30PM). In this session, we are pleased to welcome a new presenter, Adolph Dupré who will be discussing some powerful techniques for using class modules. He will explain when you may want to use classes instead of User Defined Types (UDT). For example, to manage the data in unbound forms. Adolph will...
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by: conductexam | last post by:
I have .net C# application in which I am extracting data from word file and save it in database particularly. To store word all data as it is I am converting the whole word file firstly in HTML and then checking html paragraph one by one. At the time of converting from word file to html my equations which are in the word document file was convert into image. Globals.ThisAddIn.Application.ActiveDocument.Select();...
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by: adsilva | last post by:
A Windows Forms form does not have the event Unload, like VB6. What one acts like?
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by: 6302768590 | last post by:
Hai team i want code for transfer the data from one system to another through IP address by using C# our system has to for every 5mins then we have to update the data what the data is updated we have to send another system
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bsmnconsultancy
by: bsmnconsultancy | last post by:
In today's digital era, a well-designed website is crucial for businesses looking to succeed. Whether you're a small business owner or a large corporation in Toronto, having a strong online presence can significantly impact your brand's success. BSMN Consultancy, a leader in Website Development in Toronto offers valuable insights into creating effective websites that not only look great but also perform exceptionally well. In this comprehensive...

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