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Hi y'all,

Some questions about some ideas being thrown about. In the dotNet
environment,

1: When the system starts, there a a plethora of processes started. Is
there a way to add a process that will always be the last to run?

2. Is there an event that can be detected that identifies when a user
logs on and who that user is?

3. Not all system services show up as processes unless they are running,
true? If a system service is running, it must be a process. Is there a way
to iterate through ALL system services (those that show up in Control
Panel/Administrative Tools/Processes) and identify properties such as status
(running or not), startup type (manualautomati c), description etc.

4. How can I identify where various processes are started, StartUp menu,
config.sys, autoexec.bat and other places I want to know about.

Thanx,
Bill
Nov 17 '05 #1
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"web1110" <we***@comcast. net> wrote in message
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Hi y'all,

Some questions about some ideas being thrown about. In the dotNet
environment,

1: When the system starts, there a a plethora of processes started. Is
there a way to add a process that will always be the last to run?

2. Is there an event that can be detected that identifies when a user
logs on and who that user is?

3. Not all system services show up as processes unless they are running, true? If a system service is running, it must be a process. Is there a way to iterate through ALL system services (those that show up in Control
Panel/Administrative Tools/Processes) and identify properties such as status (running or not), startup type (manualautomati c), description etc.

4. How can I identify where various processes are started, StartUp menu, config.sys, autoexec.bat and other places I want to know about.

Thanx,
Bill

Nov 17 '05 #2
Apparently I was wrong. My service list shows 54 running services and the
task manager shows 47 running processes. What is happening here? Can a
single process provide more than one service?
Nov 17 '05 #3

"web1110" <we***@comcast. net> wrote in message
news:K-*************** *****@comcast.c om...
Apparently I was wrong. My service list shows 54 running services and the
task manager shows 47 running processes. What is happening here? Can a
single process provide more than one service?

Yes, a single process can host many services.

Willy.
Nov 17 '05 #4
Actually the Task manager is a load of crap. If I had one wish in Windows
it would be that the task manager worked like a linux ps -ax command and
would show you all the processes running on the machine. The fact that task
manager is so bad is one thing that helps adware programs and worms hide so
well because you can't see them running in the list. Another very anoying
thing is trying to shut some services down through the thing is not even
allowed.

Sorry, when you spend hours trying to find a adware program that never
shows up in that task manager but that you know is running because ads keep
popping up its rather annoying.

:-)

glenn
"web1110" <we***@comcast. net> wrote in message
news:K-*************** *****@comcast.c om...
Apparently I was wrong. My service list shows 54 running services and the
task manager shows 47 running processes. What is happening here? Can a
single process provide more than one service?

Nov 17 '05 #5
See inline

Willy.

"glenn" <gh******@softe ksoftware.com> wrote in message
news:eB******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..
Actually the Task manager is a load of crap. If I had one wish in Windows
it would be that the task manager worked like a linux ps -ax command and
It's not, Taskman is a task based end-users tool not a developers or a power
users tool, ever seen an end user using ps -ax on linux?
There is always the performance monitor if you don' like Taskman, the
platform sdk (pstat.exe) the resource kit (pview.exe) contains a number of
tools that gives you details on processes you didn't even know they existed.
And there is allways the most exelent process explorer tools available fro
download from www.sysinternals.com.

would show you all the processes running on the machine. The fact that
task
manager is so bad is one thing that helps adware programs and worms hide
so It's not, adware doesn't run as a separate process, they are nested in
existing processes, or they run as an hidden process. well because you can't see them running in the list. Another very
anoying
thing is trying to shut some services down through the thing is not even
allowed.
This is because:
1. Service processes shouldn't be killed, they should be stopped using the
Services applet, the reason is that they can house multiple services,
killing a process will kill all it's contained services, this is not wat you
want do you?
2. Services in general can only be killed by and administrator, and some
only by the SYSTEM pseudo account, but again they shouldn't.
Sorry, when you spend hours trying to find a adware program that never
shows up in that task manager but that you know is running because ads
keep
popping up its rather annoying.

:-)
Adware has nothing to do with Taskman, it's all about security.

glenn
"web1110" <we***@comcast. net> wrote in message
news:K-*************** *****@comcast.c om...
Apparently I was wrong. My service list shows 54 running services and
the
task manager shows 47 running processes. What is happening here? Can a
single process provide more than one service?


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