Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the "impossible "
category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database application
for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it and
want to keep using my application, however, the University application MUST
BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web app.
I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has to
be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or text
file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
27  1899 
Hi Greg,
It's not entirely clear to me what you want. I did some experiments
sending information to another program (PuTTY) from my C# program using
the clipboard, and it worked fine. I put some text on the clipboard, sent
a WM_PASTE message to PuTTY and restored whatever information was on the
clipboard to begin with.
However, this does not answer your question about mass copy.
I believe it can be done, but I don't know in what way the information
needs to be retrieved and pasted.
Happy coding!
Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]
Could you communicate with the web-based application using HTTP? ie request
the data-entry pages and then POST the values you want to store. Do this in
a bacth for each record.
Obviously that's a massive over-simplification but it might give you some
ideas.
Stu
"Greg Smith" <gj*@umn.edu> wrote in message
news:ex******** *****@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl... Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the
"impossible " category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database
application for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it
and want to keep using my application, however, the University application
MUST BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web
app. I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has
to be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or
text file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
hmmmm....
on the one hand i don't think the users should be allowed to dictate what
should be done
on the other, what they really want is shared data - not necessarily
copy/paste functionality
the solution is to look for another way to share the data between the 2
apps - definitely not the clipboard -at least not in my opinion
i would suggest looking at - .Net remoting - to have your desktop app grab
the data from the open Web form
- thats just a preliminary analysis with the little knowledge i have but you
for me, you cannot go with a copy/paste formula
thats a user perspective of how to fix what is primarily a software
engineering problem
you will probably have to develop a web service for this
key questions would be:
does the webApp use XML?
does it use .Net WebForms?
does it use ASP.Net?
how does it access and communicate with the data base?
how is the data stored in the browser? - HTML <Form> element? php, jsp etc?
....
as a worst case scenario where copy/paste is considered viable clipboard
sharing across domains is possible in .Net
hope this helps to at least give you a start
"Greg Smith" <gj*@umn.edu> wrote in message
news:ex******** *****@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl... Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the
"impossible " category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database
application for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it
and want to keep using my application, however, the University application
MUST BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web
app. I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has
to be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or
text file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hello Greg,
You could write a simple C# app hosting the IE Web Browser control (yes yes
it will be a simple specialized web browser). Your users would then open the
University's Web app in that browser, navigate to the page where data should
be pasted, and here comes the trick. Your existing app should be able to
copy all necessary data to the clipboard using some predetermined format
(say, CSV or even better - XML) - I hope this is not that hard to implement
.. The specialized browser, in turn, should be able to read the data from the
clipboard in that format and toss them to the Web page fields by using the
IE page object model.
Does this make sense?
--
Dmitriy Lapshin [C# / .NET MVP]
X-Unity Test Studio http://www.x-unity.net/teststudio.aspx
Bring the power of unit testing to VS .NET IDE
"Greg Smith" <gj*@umn.edu> wrote in message
news:ex******** *****@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl... Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the
"impossible " category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database
application for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it
and want to keep using my application, however, the University application
MUST BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web
app. I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has
to be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or
text file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hi Greg,
What interface does the web application use? If you are lucky enough to have
a set of stored procs or web services that the web application uses then
maybe you could interface at a deeper level, and enable your users to do the
purchasing from the windows application.
A mass copy-paste scenario is a tricky and highly unreliable solution. Apart
from being incredibly difficult to implement, it doesn't solve the usability
problem of the web application. If you can interface at a deeper level then
you can still have your windows application feed data into the new web-based
system (but ofcourse you will skip the front-end altogether).
Tip: Check out the "'Auto-Complete" feature of the downloadable IE toolbar
offered by Google.
Good luck!
Luke Venediger http://blogdotnet.blogspot.com
"Greg Smith" <gj*@umn.edu> wrote in message
news:ex******** *****@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl... Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the
"impossible " category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database
application for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it
and want to keep using my application, however, the University application
MUST BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web
app. I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has
to be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or
text file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Come to think of it, since it's a web application you probably need to
send WM_PASTE to Internet Explorer, if that works.
Happy coding!
Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]
"Greg Smith" <gj*@umn.edu> wrote in message
news:ex******** *****@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl... What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web
app. I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this.
Sounds rather like a data migration user requirement. How about discussing
the possibility of (you or the University's programmers) doing that?
Brad Williams
The way you describe the solution, I would look at it as doing the
impossible too, however, if you can convince the university programmers to
provide Web services on the server, you are back in business (tell them it
is cutting edge, that they will look important, etc, etc).
"Greg Smith" <gj*@umn.edu> wrote in message
news:ex******** *****@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl... Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the
"impossible " category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database
application for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it
and want to keep using my application, however, the University application
MUST BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web
app. I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has
to be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or
text file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Greg Smith wrote:
Hello, I have been given a programming task that falls into the "impossible "
category with my current skill set. I am hoping somebody out there knows
how to do this and can save my b-t.
I work for a large University. I wrote a Windows-based database application
for my department that is used in purchasing. The University has just
released Web-base application that does the same thing using a sub set of
the data that my application uses. The people in my department hate it and
want to keep using my application, however, the University application MUST
BE USED to order. What my users have asked for is a way of doing a mass
copy and paste of the needed information from my Windows app to the Web app.
I have talked to the University's programmers and there is absolutely no
chance of them changing their application to facilitate this. It all has to
be done from the Windows app.
Obviously information could be cut and pasted a field at a time, but they
would like a massive copy and then go to the web form and paste, paste,
paste.
Is there a way to do this from the clip board? From a text file? Can I
assign a hot-key programmaticall y to paste things off the clipboard or text
file?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Couple of ways to do this:
- In your application, use the .NET web controls to create a POST response
that mimics the web response. You wouldn't even require that IE was running,
it could all be done behind the scenes. Caveats: if the web page POST format
changes, you will need to update your app; this method could be complicated if
there are cookies, logins, or navigation that is required before the POST will
be accepted.
- Instead of considering this one big copy/paste operation, look at it as a
series of single copy/paste operations. You could enable your application to:
open an instance of IE and navigate to the entry screen (or have the user
manually do that); then, text-box by text-box, iterate over the controls in
your application, copy the text, and paste into the corresponding text-box of
the web app. You would need to create a mapping between your text-box
identifiers and the text-box identifiers used in the web page, I'd recommend
using an external configuration file that can be quickly and easily modified if
the web page layout changes.
I'd consider the first option as the best solution as it can do the entire
operation behind the scenes and your users don't have to mess w/ the web
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